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1 posted on 02/17/2003 7:00:55 PM PST by marsh2
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To: marsh2; Carry_Okie; Phil V.; Grampa Dave; farmfriend
They left out Friends of the River in their list of extremist EnvironMentalist groups! Why!!!
2 posted on 02/17/2003 7:06:37 PM PST by SierraWasp (Snap Out Of It, CA!!! Be Courageous! It's Contageous! Zap Zany Gray!!!)
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To: marsh2
What they fail to mention is that this fish kill took place during the third largest fall chinook salmon run ever recorded.

Help me here. Though 30,000 fish died while still downstream, was this run still one of the largest recorded runs? - Was there a healthy return in spite of the loss?

3 posted on 02/17/2003 7:09:32 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: *Klamath_List
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4 posted on 02/17/2003 7:10:55 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: marsh2
Bumping & Pinging again for enlightend opinion and even some answers from those in "the know!"

The guy with the T-Shirt and CA Fish & Game make it pretty obvious the political attack on the Bush Administration was merely disgusting political opportunism to the MAX!!!

Funny how the commercial whitewater rafting industry and their supposed non-profit front group, "Friends of the River" never got mentioned when I saw them specifically mentioned in other articles about this controversy! Both in 2002 and 2001!!!

5 posted on 02/17/2003 7:25:58 PM PST by SierraWasp (Snap Out Of It, CA!!! Be Courageous! It's Contageous! Zap Zany Gray!!!)
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To: marsh2
The fish are one of the points of a "report" being sent out to anti-Bush (pro-abortion, pro-any-thing-but-abstinence groups:

http://www.arhp.org/signon/science.cfm

"Preserving the Core Values I Science"

""Evidence-based, peer-reviewed science has served as a respected "gold standard" for policy-making. As the examples below indicate, it increasingly appears that, under the current administration, ideology and not science is driving what ought to be objective, scientific processes.



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Biologist ordered to rewrite his scientific opinion on water needs of endangered salmon

Michael Kelly, a biologist with the National Marine Fisheries Service, led the team changed with protecting endangered coho salmon in California and Oregon's Klamath River. Regional water managers must balance the water needs of the federally protected salmon with those of local farmers. This past spring, Kelly's team reviewed the ten-year plan put forth by the water's managers-the Bureau of Reclamation-and concluded that the plan did not provide enough water for the fish. The Justice Department ordered Kelly to revise his conclusions. His second report reached the same conclusion, with additional scientific and legal analysis. The Bureau of Reclamation rejected his report and backed an alternative plan that diverted more water for agriculture. Later in the summer, with low water flows, more than 30,000 fish, or one-quarter of that year's run, died. ""
6 posted on 02/17/2003 7:26:09 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US.)
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To: marsh2
"What Caused Salmon Deaths?"

These enviroweenies, being idiots, forgot something which is very important to Salmon: Dissolved oxygen levels. Salmon (and also trout, which are salmonids) require high levels of dissolved oxygen in the water they inhabit. This oxygen is usually supplied by rapids or other such areas where water is being turned over at a high velocity. This is why trout are usually found in fast moving water. When the irrigation water in question was shut off, the rapids disappeared; hence, insufficient dissolved oxygen for the salmonids.

Any sophomore civil engineering student at a reputable university knows this....

14 posted on 02/17/2003 8:19:29 PM PST by yooper
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To: marsh2
What caused salmon deaths?

Filleting, washing, seasoning & broiling, followed by eating...

15 posted on 02/17/2003 8:24:11 PM PST by mhking ("The word is no. I am therefore going anyway..." --Admiral J.T. Kirk)
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To: marsh2; farmfriend; SierraWasp
Lots of good information in the article

I had a report of the meth lab dump early in this case but nothing solid. I believe by the time of the kil, Iron Gate already had enough spawners for the year. It was reported that this was the best run since around 1900. I would not rule out ELF involvement in the kill.

Something that struck me odd last Sept was the fact that a couple of Indian gill netters had already pulled up their nets before the kill. Now that may have been because they were sick of fish but...

BTW... Fish and Game may close the Mad River hatchery near Arcata for lack of funding. This hatchery is the sole fishery on the Mad River just south of the Klamath.

16 posted on 02/17/2003 8:25:36 PM PST by tubebender (?)
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To: marsh2
How cares what causes their deaths? They taste pretty god on my Foreman grill.
17 posted on 02/17/2003 8:28:18 PM PST by RepubMommy
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To: marsh2
Thanks for posting this. At last we have some reality and not the left wing watermelon lynx hair type of story re the death of the salmon.
22 posted on 02/17/2003 10:40:28 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: steelie
FYI!

Finally a story that backs up the potential connection of the wide open drug manufacturing along the Klamath River might have with the fish kill last September.
23 posted on 02/17/2003 10:43:43 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: marsh2
What caused salmon deaths?

My BBQ grill

26 posted on 02/17/2003 11:52:09 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (An American Fellowship of Freedom loving Conservatives..... <*[[[[[><)
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To: marsh2
BTTT
29 posted on 02/18/2003 9:02:44 AM PST by hattend
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To: marsh2
Bump!!
31 posted on 02/18/2003 1:21:18 PM PST by AuntB (YOUR RIGHTS STOP WHERE MY NOSE STARTS!)
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