Mark Steyn: The curtain will come down on the peaceniks

National Post (Canada) ^ | 02/18/03 | Mark Steyn

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

It has been thirty years already. And they will not fight each other until we are gone, by then it will be too late for us.

They all have certain core beliefs in common, the main two being the blind worship of something (The State, Galia or Allah) and the desire to suppress all freedom of thought to keep the "lower classes" in their place.

This un-holy trinity of Marxist, Jihadist and Eco-nuts is an odd grouping to be sure. But no stranger then the Axis of Germany, Japan and Italy. Firm allies despite two of them being convinced that they were the master race.

[Monti Cello]

These posters are CLASSIC!

I heard a guy call in to Savage yesterday talking about making these. Was it you? If not, do you know if it was another Freeper?

[CharacterCounts]

The fellow holding the poster called into Rush, today. He said he had digital photos. Rush arranged to have them emailed to him for his site.

[js1138]

They come from Rush's site. See post #143.

[LS]

Ah, come on. Leftists accept the Enlightenment concept of voting, democracies, "rule of law" (except when they don't like it, but even then, at times). There is a HUGE difference between this and the way Mulsims view the world. Do you know they don't even have anything remotely like Locke's 2nd Treatise or Montisquieu's Spirit of the Laws?

[LS]

Well, I plan on being here in 30 years. Sorry you won't be.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Huh? I plan on being around.

[GOPJ]

Pokey, thanks for having me on this ping list. You can't top this stuff:

During the Blitz, Churchill would stand on the roof and watch the Luftwaffe bombing London; in the morning, he would walk through the ruins. Hitler, by contrast, never visited bombed-out areas and, just in case the driver should take a wrong turn, he drove the streets with his car windows curtained. His final days were spent in a bunker -- the perfect ending for a man whose worldview depended on keeping reality at bay no matter how relentlessly it closed in on him.

[GOPJ]

This also explains why FOX News is winning. They look at reality...

[Victoria Delsoul]

Good article as usual by Mark Steyn.

Bump.

[altura]

They don't like it when you tug at their curtain.

[Doctor Raoul]

Bump.

[twntaipan]

Steyn gets better and better. Big ole bump.

[LS]

Well me to. But you were acting like the U.S. wouldn't. We will be here, long after al-Quaeda, the Frogs, and half the leftist countries of Europe are gone.

[benjaminthomas]

I read this and was blown away by the curtain analogy and was scrolling down to see if anyone else commented. You nailed it -- Steyn is brilliant in this regard.

[Check_Your_Premises]

Yes you are right, I didn't disagree in the long run. In the long run they cannot coexist. In the short run I think they can coexist. I define the short run as the time it will take to achieve their mutual goal, the destruction of the United States.

For a historical example I offer the uneasy and short lived alliance between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R that existed until Nazism was vanquished.

[conservativemusician]

Check out this article.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

No, I didn't. I was pointing out that they would remain united until we were gone or they were. They only time they start fighting each other is when the west is not in the area to fight. Since our presence is worldwide they will stick together for some time as they have in the past.

They got together in the late sixties and have been a pain every since.

Now, don't misunderstand me, I would never say that they like each other. But they hate us more. And anything that will cause us problems they will promote even if they privately look down on each other while doing it.

[LS]

Ok, well, we disagree. I think that they can ally for a brief time---especially against the Jews---but look at Afghanistan. The Soviets were as big a lefties as you get, but the Muslims didn't welcome them. Communism has made no inroads in the Muslim world, save Saddam. It certainly IS a case of they (all) view us as the "bigger threat," but I don't think the free drug, free abortion mentality of the Euro-lefties will fly in a strategic sense with most of these Muslim countries.

Let me suggest that one of the reasons OUR Muslim "allies" have remained somewhat supportive is that our system, while free, is nevertheless more conservative than the Euros, and we respect religion (I know, it's getting harder---but not like Europe). Moreover, as one Muslim student told me, they respect POWER, and both Reagan and Bush 41 gained tremendous respect in the Muslim world by demonstrating power. This is something the Euros simply cannot do.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Afghanistan was a case where they only had each other to fight.

And plenty of Islamic dictators had close ties with the USSR. Libya, Syria, the PLO was a communist organization, Iraq of course; Iran and the lefties of france are good friends. Not a one of the ME countries said "boo" about their oppressed brothers inside the USSR.

Right now we speak of the Arab world as if they were a united force. The truth is that they hate the west more then they hate the Marxists and they hate the Marxists more then they hate each other. If we all vanished they would quickly declare war on each other.

Afghanistan is proof of this, the combined forces of Islam and Communism threw out The West and then they turned on each other and the USSR was thrown out and then they began to war with each other.