THE STOPPING POWER OF DIFFERENT HANDGUN CARTRIDGES

2/22/2003

[ez]

The Charter Arms Charter 2000 Undercover is rated a best buy at Gun Tests, and at just $259 is in my price range. The hard part in NYS is being able to get your pistol permit in the first place. So far I am content to defend w my Mossberg 500 with pistol grip.

I'll have to check out that +p ammo.

[Eaker]

Bump 'cause you guys need educatin'!!!!

Stay safe; stay armed.

[joesnuffy]

If she has small hands... Browing Hi power for an autoloader and a S&W 442 38 special loaded with +P hollow points for carry and regular pressure lead bullets for practice

[Tijeras_Slim]

Thanks for the tips. I'll be in touch as the status of NM CCW changes.

[ConservativeLawyer]

LOL! But then I have to convince her to wear that outfit as well to complete the package!

[Movemout]

I have a derringer manufactured by American Derringer which fires 4-10/.45 Long rounds. It has a hell of a kick.

[Travis McGee]

.22 mag will certainly penetrate a skull from any angle! A SEAL officer was assassinated in El Salvador in the 80s with a .22 mag revolver. (Historical footnote.)

[Travis McGee]

Doesn't KelTec do a VERY smart thing and build guns around existing (available!) magazines, like the S&W model 59 double stack 9mm mags?

[TC Rider]

Doesn't KelTec do a VERY smart thing and build guns around existing (available!) magazines, like the S&W model 59 double stack 9mm mags?

heh heh, yes they do.

The Sub 2000 can be ordered with a reciever for S&W, Glock or Beretta. The 9mm pistol takes a S&W.

[Servant of the Nine]

What would you recommend for caliber/firearm for concealed carry for a woman?
I need to do a little shopping for the wife.

I started my son, when he was 5 feet tall and weighed 95 pounds with a chopped 45 automatic. he found the 'soft' recoil of it easier to handle than a .38 revolver or even a .32 auto.

I'm PINGing .38 SW
She has moved from an occasional shooter to a bit 45 fan in the last year or so.

So9

[Squantos]

Don't tell anyone about this one.....Keep this to yourself........:o)

Stay Safe !

[.38sw]

Swervie is right about the .45 auto. I find my Kimber CDP easier to handle than my .38 revolver. Reacquiring the target for a 2nd shot is easier and faster than with the .38. I keep it loaded with 230 JHP's in Chip McCormick Power Mags.

[2nd_Amendment_Defender]

I would recommend a Glock 23 .40 handgun for concealed carry. It is a small and light handgun that holds 10 +1 rounds of effective .40 S&W ammunition. If your wife is recoil sensitive then this gun would probably not be a good choice. It does have some recoil when you fire it.

I hear the Walther P 99 .40 S&W handgun is good choice too.

Do not let her carry a gun in her purse. A purse is usually the first article a thief will grab.

This is a Glock 23

[2nd_Amendment_Defender]

I personally don't like the Para Ordnance. My brother owns a .45 Para Ordnance handgun and I'm not impressed. It jams every now and again because the magazines are not very good quality.

What do you intend to use the pistol for? Concealed carry? Home defense?

You can't go wrong buying a Glock, Sig Sauer or Heckler and Koch. My next handgun purchase may be a Colt .45 Defender 90 series. I have heard good reviews about the .45 Colt Defender 90 Series. It holds 7 or 8 + 1 rounds of .45 ACP ammunition and it is very light and good for concealed carry.

I am also a fan of the Glock 30 and Glock 23. Both are also great handguns.

.45 Colt Defender 90 Series

[Stopislamnow]

I love my Kahr Arms .40. P9 Covert. It's tiny, easily concealable and fun to shoot.

The only problem I have with it is the normal clip leaves my pinky below the grips. With the extended clip though, its perfect for a medium to small grip.

[Travis McGee]

One more reason to love KelTec!

[Eaker]

One doesn't see too many C&S Blade Runner Blasters these days!!!!

Good thing you didn't post a picture of it on the Internet!

Stay safe; stay armed.
Eaker FReeper Status

"The Era of Osama lasted about an hour, from the time the first plane hit the tower to the moment the General Militia of Flight 93 reported for duty."

[Squantos]

I was gonna tell ya it was an 88 Magnum....it shoots thru schools.....

But figured you'd catch on to my fib soon enough :o)

Stay Safe !!

[2nd_Amendment_Defender]

I have been leaning towards the 21 because it is bigger, I am a big guy. What do you Freepers think? I would also like to buy a shotgun and/or rifle for family defense. Any suggestions? I have kids in the 7-10 year old range at my house. Thanks? Any suggestions for safe storage? (I don't consider myself in imminent danger).

I love my Glock 23 for concealed carry, but I am leaning toward buying another gun because of the issue of no safety. About any kid picking up a Glock could discharge it. If you are using a semi-auto handgun for home defense there is the option of keeping the chamber empty with the magazine loaded to full capacity in the gun.

I think the Glock 30 is a better choice than the Glock 21 for a .45 handgun. The Glock 30 holds 10+1 rounds of .45 ammunition and is an easy to conceal firearm. I have had the pleasure of shooting a Glock 30 before and was surprised at how well it handled the .45 ACP round because the gun is so small. You can't get the Glock 21 13 round magazines anymore unless you want to pay over $80 for a 13 round magazine. The 10 round magazines for a Glock 21 cost about $21.50. 3 extra rounds aren't worth an extra $60 to me.

Gun Tests also gave a good review to the Colt .45 Defender 90 Series. The Glock would probably last longer than the Colt, but with the Colt you have a safety. (Sigh) So many guns so few dollars.

[2nd_Amendment_Defender]

So where does a .454 with a 300 grain hollow point at 1600 fps rate?

If you're able to hit someone in the center of the chest with one of those rounds I am sure he will die. (You will probably not have hearing after the situation has ended and you have to buy a hearing aid for permanent ear damage.)