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Pledge Ban upheld ("no under God")
Fox News.com ^ | February 28, 2002 | FOX

Posted on 02/28/2003 11:40:27 AM PST by Iron Eagle

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:35:36 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: godblessamerica; ingodwetrust; ipledgeallegiance; onenationundergod; pledgeban; undergod
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Nope, even if "under God" were to be totally banned, folks will still shout it out on their own. We have loud voices that ring clear. The liberals probably rarely attend events where the Pledge is said, anyhow.

Leni

21 posted on 02/28/2003 12:08:33 PM PST by MinuteGal (Escape to FReeper Island on "FReeps Ahoy" cruise. Register today or weep later!)
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To: Iron Eagle
Hey Cailfornia commies no doubt you will lose on this. Recall Davis.......
22 posted on 02/28/2003 12:09:59 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Blue Scourge
Newdow indeed knows his daughter and her mother are Christians. They fellowship at my church so we hear details of the case from time to time. The lawyer opposing this ruling is a Christian and spoke at our church...fantastic heart for God and accomplished in his profession.

The 9th circuit ruling is not a surprise..it was fully expected and will now go to the Supreme Court where it will be shot down completely.

23 posted on 02/28/2003 12:14:36 PM PST by homeschool mama
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To: Iron Eagle
...reconsider its decision that the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional because of the phrase "under God."

That was not the decision.

24 posted on 02/28/2003 12:14:58 PM PST by mlo
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To: Iron Eagle
They had their chance to correct their asinine decision, so now they will just have to be outed as the hate-America radicals that they are. The 9th Circus Court should be dissolved since its the most tyrannical and unlawful court in the nation. Its the most overturned court in America. One year it had 27 out of 28 court decisions reversed by the SCOTUS. One also has to ask that since they have the great majority of their decisions overturned because they are unlawful, unconstitional, and pawns of a radical left agenda, made its time to disband the court since they are cheating tax payers.
25 posted on 02/28/2003 12:15:08 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator
bump
26 posted on 02/28/2003 12:15:54 PM PST by homeschool mama
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To: GingisK
Nobody is prohibiting your free excercise. Free excercise for others also means that the state can't impose religious requirements in its state-run schools.
28 posted on 02/28/2003 12:16:52 PM PST by mlo
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To: Iron Eagle
So they upheld a case that was bogus and a lie from the beginning?

The 9th circuit it a COMPLETE JOKE!
29 posted on 02/28/2003 12:16:53 PM PST by Mo1 (DC Chapter .. Patriots Rally for America IV .. on Saturday, March 1st)
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To: RAT Patrol
The judicial activists strike again.

The legislative religious activists struck in the fifties. That's when "under God" was added to the pledge.

30 posted on 02/28/2003 12:18:45 PM PST by jimt
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
Imagine if Clinton were in he would sit back while we pledged to mother earth.

Nope. Bubba pledges to the sink.

31 posted on 02/28/2003 12:20:46 PM PST by Cobra64 (REMOVE)
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To: Iron Eagle
If the public schools will not allow the pledge including "under God", then we have to get our kids out of the public schools.

Really, why ever would anyone put his kids into the hands of people who mock everything you believe in?

My daughter is having her go-rounds with the schools; she refused to sign a "contract", a promise to be a good parent, which is sent out to every parent. It comes out of Jesse Jackson's organization. As a result she has been steadily harrassed to the point that she has now, reluctantly, decided to pull them from the public school altogether. Fortunately there are a number of private schools in the area to choose from, and in particular she has chosen a church-sponsored school that seems to be very good. Its expensive, but after a certain point, money no longer is an issue.

She has had her fights with them for years, refusing to let her kids take part in sensitiviy training sessions that conflicted with her beliefs (they start wanting to teach kids about homosexuality very young these days) but she really crossed some kind of a line when she refused the Jesse Jackson letter. They are after her now, and she needs to move quickly.

Most people just sign it, without knowing or caring what they sign. She didn't initially know it was from PUSH, she was initially just offended at the idea of "promising" to the school district to be a good parent. It was only later that she found out it was a PUSH (Jesse Jackson) program.
32 posted on 02/28/2003 12:22:35 PM PST by marron
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To: Iron Eagle
"The court said that phrase in the pledge was an endorsement of God."

I don't know what it is about that whole northwest region - from S.F. all the way up to canada (include canada).

Totally devoid of godliness - you can feel the darkness in Seattle and S.F. - it just hangs in the air.

Time for good USSC action. Pray for Dubyas reelection - two more USSC judges will be replaced over the next six years.

Pray for God's wisdom, favor, and guideance on our President and supernatural persuasion to be vested in the Godly members of the USSC.

And support Jay Seculow is you can spare some change.

33 posted on 02/28/2003 12:23:30 PM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: scisyhp
You cannot demand that "under God" be removed and claim that you are not "banning God."

BTW, do you think the Declaration of Independence is constitutional?

34 posted on 02/28/2003 12:25:59 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Lunatic Fringe
...God and God-granted rights as the basis for Independence

Actually, the DofI cites a "Creator", not God. So whether you believe that man was greated by nature or by a supernatural being, you're covered.

35 posted on 02/28/2003 12:26:47 PM PST by snopercod
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To: Iron Eagle
The reason this court refuses to hear it again is that they have already made fools of themselves, so why overturn their own decision and show that they also have no backbone?

This will get tossed at a higher level.

36 posted on 02/28/2003 12:27:01 PM PST by TommyDale (Give us all a break.)
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To: marron
Tell you daughter that.........



and she might want to consider it.
37 posted on 02/28/2003 12:28:01 PM PST by day10
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To: day10
that should read "tell your daughter"......hopefully my kids will do better!
38 posted on 02/28/2003 12:29:51 PM PST by day10
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To: RAT Patrol
do you think the Declaration of Independence is constitutional?

That is a nonsensical question. The Declaration is not an act under Constitutional control.

39 posted on 02/28/2003 12:31:11 PM PST by mlo
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To: jimt
The legislative religious activists struck in the fifties. That's when "under God" was added to the pledge.

What about the Declaration of Independence? How about the vast majority of our historical presidential speeches? What about our money? How about the prayers in congress?

FYI, the legislative process is the constitutional road. Judges should only interpret the laws. If they find the Pledge unconstitutional then a great majority of our political history is unconstitutional -- and should therefore not be mentioned in schools -- as well. That's ludicrous.

Be a God hater on your own time. Mentioning God does not endorse a religion.

40 posted on 02/28/2003 12:32:12 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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