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Peace group FReeped at Auburn NY Unitarian Universalist "Church".
self | 3-3-03 | Kudsman

Posted on 03/03/2003 9:23:12 PM PST by Kudsman

17 members of the Cayuga Coalition for "Peace" met this evening at 7:00pm. What they weren't expecting was a FReeper to show up.

I walked in at 7:03 and seventeen people were seated around a table with a what looked like Natasha KGB typing at a laptop. A woman i'll call "commy#1" was stating "Saturday March 8th at the Islamic Society". The man,(commy#2), sitting next to her cut her off and the place went silent as I found a comfy old Victorian near the back of the room.

They were all looking at me as I sat down and took out my pad and pen. Another man,(commy#3), seated closest to me gets up and says "What are you doing here?" I calmly tell him I'm just there to take notes. He says "well no-one invited you." I took out the webpage I had copied from their site and said "That's funny I've got a public meeting notice here that says everyone welcome. Are you saying everyone but me is welcome?"

By now two more chickendoves had moved to either side of my chair. One I knew to be the "minister" from a previous run in.
http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/2003/02/28/news/news02.txt

The minister said "I'm going to ask you to leave>". I said nothing. He said "its obvious you dont want to part of the group what are you doing here?" I stood and said "as an American I want no part of your group and I think I will stay just to take some notes." I sat.

Commy #3 said "if you dont leave we are calling the police." No response from me. Commy #1 pulled out a cell phone and brought it over to #2. He dialed and started talking to the police. Meanwhile the others slinked back over to their chairs.

Immediately they all started arguing. What are we going to do type stuff. One of the more sophisticated looking ones made the remark "maybe we should let him stay. He does have a right to be here." Commy #1 then said "if he stays I go." More arguing, louder now. (I'm actually enjoying the Keystone Cop routine without saying anything.) Here are some of their remarks I wrote down while waiting for the police to arrive: 1)He is going to tell the Vets what we are doing. He's been at our last three functions and now you going to let him spy on us. I dont want those VETS around me! ( Any vets out there interested in meeting her? hehehe)

2)We cant proceed with our work.

3)We want to make sure we can give out our propaganda.

4)There have been problems physically in other places, certain things you say can turn against us because they dont understand.

5)People are being put in jail for stuff like this guy (me) has.

6)We would be handing over power.

7)We need to have these meetings at someones house.

8)If we meet in peoples houses then we wont be able to spread our word.

Thats all I could scribble down before the police arrived. Lo and behold but one of them is my 1st cousin. He comes over to me and says "hey whats going on, you Okay?". I say "Yeah, i'm fine now". He asks "what this about you refusing to leave?". I said "I'm not saying a word here but I'll tell you all about it later without any lawyer. But you are going to have to take me out of here". He said "you are acting strange, you sure you're alright?". I was tapping my pen on the Islamic meeting date and time i had written down went I said "you know me we are blood, trust me I aint BSing you. He just nodded his head and went outside with #2.

#3 and another commy man stood around me again. Soon #2 came back in and they all sat down. Police were gone. The debate about what to do with me there continued for appprox 15 minutes, finally minister approached me. "What do you hope to prove, are you just trying to get some media attention?" he asked rather vigorously. He then purposely fell into me and grabbed hold of my legal pad. I yanked it out of his hands and starting feigning assault. Meanwhile the other two chickendoves lept to restrain Mr. Peace Minister. #1 yelled "thats it,someone call the police back". I sat there and said "yes please do, did everyone see that?". #3 got the biggest frown on his face and said "why are you here?" I replied "because two towers fell and killed 3000 of my countrymen and I'm not letting that happen again!" He sneered "That's an idiotic statement! You swallow every lie thats given to you by the government." I slowly shook my head in disbelief and kept writing while he vented. The rest of the "peace" group started getting up and folding chairs and tables. They continued whispering and grumbling to each other. Some began leaving. One commy woman (#5) stopped in front of me on her way out and bent down to say "try to cooperate so that no one gets hurt Mr._____. No one wants that now do they?" I am still silently writing as she eventually leaves. Now there is just me and four male chickendoves. I focus on a spot on the wall where i can keep them all in my sight. Soon the police arrive again. One tells me unless I leave the "minister" is going to file trespass charges. I tell him I want to press assault charges, then follow him out side. I thank those two officers for everything they do, everyday, I explain. Another officer is over talking with the remaining chickendoves while MY two "comrades" and I converse. While we are talking I noticed the streetlighted area up a ways and guess what this "church" was next to? An abortion mill. I silently prayed and held back the welling. Again. Amen.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: antiwar; peacegroup; unitarianuniversalis
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Over 3 million of my generation was killed in utero. Dead before they started. Is there a connection between this atheist,pagan,place, (i refuse to call it a church ever again), tax deductible status, medicare scams, and this abortion mill. I'd be interested to see what type of "services" they held but I have a feeling a restraining order may be coming.
1 posted on 03/03/2003 9:23:12 PM PST by Kudsman
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To: Kudsman
I promise I'll practice this link think. Please bear with me I'm very busy. http://www.auburnpub.com/articles/2003/02/28/news/news02.txt
2 posted on 03/03/2003 9:32:31 PM PST by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!)
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To: Kudsman
outstanding FReep. Welcome to FR.
3 posted on 03/03/2003 9:32:39 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Kudsman
Well done, Tim ....evil has many faces.
4 posted on 03/03/2003 9:40:32 PM PST by Seeking the truth (I'm going on the FRN Cruise - How about you? - Details at www.Freerepublic.net)
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To: Kudsman
Greetings Kudsman, FReepers, et al:
Private "public" meetings? LOL! The left always wants it both ways. FReep on.
5 posted on 03/03/2003 9:40:50 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (This charade has gone on long enough, it is time to liberate the Iraqi people.)
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To: Kudsman
You are courageous.

I still don't understand their purpose-but then-they didn't want you to either. But that first statement of theirs, you recorded, ....Islamic society was interesting. I listened to a recently CSPAN televisted symposium on the Islamic faith sponsored by the Christain Coalition and I am still shocked by what I learned.

6 posted on 03/03/2003 9:42:51 PM PST by Republic (tommy daschle is a WEASEL OF MASS DISTORTION (tractorman)-so truthful, it almost HURTS!)
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To: Republic
lol, love your tag line!
7 posted on 03/03/2003 9:44:09 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Kudsman
As far as I'm concerned, "universalist unitarian" is right up
there with "democratic republic of." (and it turns out that
it never is.) Good job, Kudsman.
8 posted on 03/03/2003 9:51:35 PM PST by davisfh
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To: Kudsman
Wow. Where were they meeting, in a public building?
9 posted on 03/03/2003 9:51:40 PM PST by Bob J (Join the FR Network! Educate, Motivate, Activate!)
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To: Kudsman
If they have a tax deductible status, are they allowed under law to be able to hold political/anti war meetings on the church grounds? You need to check to see if they get any federal funds. If so, what they are doing is illegal.
10 posted on 03/03/2003 9:52:50 PM PST by mass55th
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To: Kudsman
P.S. You need to send a letter to The Citizen and report what happened at the "private" public meeting.
11 posted on 03/03/2003 9:54:10 PM PST by mass55th
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To: Bob J
The UU place.
12 posted on 03/03/2003 9:55:20 PM PST by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!)
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To: Kudsman
Great FReep, Kudsman. And welcome to FR. Looks like you'll fit in quite well!

But please, do me a favor? Next time take at least one friend and hopefully two or more? Something tells me you might need some witnesses. ;-)
13 posted on 03/03/2003 10:00:48 PM PST by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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To: Humidston
Yes, take a friend next time. There's safety in numbers.
14 posted on 03/03/2003 10:06:12 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Kudsman
Unitarians used to believe in God, but they didn't believe in a triune God, the Trinity. Hence they called themselves Unitarians. Later they merged with the Universalist church.

After that many of the newcomer joiners decided they didn't believe in God at all, and many members now believe all sorts of humanist centered things.

15 posted on 03/03/2003 10:10:26 PM PST by patriciaruth
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To: Ciexyz
One American with GOD, against 17 chickendoves. Sounds fair. Good night until next tour.
16 posted on 03/03/2003 10:13:02 PM PST by Kudsman (LETS GET IT ON!)
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To: Kudsman
I haven't any clout around here....BUT, I nominate you for the "Best One Man FReep" in the last 6+ years of "FReep'dom"...

Good show mate...Mustang sends w/ Best FReegards and Respect!
17 posted on 03/03/2003 10:13:45 PM PST by Mustang (Evil Thrives When Good People Do Nothing!)
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To: Kudsman
You are fighting the good fight. FReep on, brother!
18 posted on 03/03/2003 10:13:46 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." GWB 9/20/01)
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To: mass55th
Kathy....That's excellent advice.
19 posted on 03/03/2003 10:26:37 PM PST by Mustang (Evil Thrives When Good People Do Nothing!)
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To: Kudsman
Unitarian Universalists = Godless Commies. At least the Seattle bunch are. Several years ago, I quietly attended a couple of their meetings, and was horrified by their beliefs and activities. I wouldn't go alone if I were you. They'll be prepared now and try to create an incident so they can get you arrested. Also, I'd wear a small hidden tape recorder. That is if they ever any more "public" meetings. Now they'll probably meet in homes so they can talk openly without outside "ears" like you listening.
20 posted on 03/03/2003 10:28:17 PM PST by holyscroller (Why are Liberal female media types always ugly to boot?)
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