Armed Neighbors End Dog Attacks

http://carrollwood.tbo.com/carrollwood/MGAIHP0ZMBD.html ^ | 2/1/2003 | SEAN C. LEDIG

[2nd_Amendment_Defender]

My wife is eyeballing the [Kimber] Ultra CDP II for when we can legally carry.

You might also want to take a look at the Sig Sauer Mauser M2 .45 ACP Handgun. Right now it is only priced at around $425. It holds 8+1 rounds of .45 ACP, weighs 29 ounces and has a trigger pull of 8.8 pounds. It is about the same size as a Glock 23. It is probably going to be my next handgun. I love Sig Sauer handguns.

[SevenDaysInMay]

911 bump.

Background check bump.

Trigger lock bump.

Home gun safe storage bump.

Gun registration bump.

No handgun bump.

Gravely concerned politicials' photo-ops bump.

Dead child bump.

God-given right, affirmed by our Constitution, but infringed by generations of politicians bump.

[GunsareOK]

I'll take a Labarador any time for a pet. Like most dogs, they'll sound the alarm when trouble is near. By nature, they're not suitable as attack dogs.

The demeanor and appearance of most Dobermans, Pit Bulls, and Rotweilers give me the willies. I personally have no desire to be around these dogs. I did once make the acquaintance of a very friendly Rotweiler in its owner's presence. The owner told me that the dog "liked guys" and that I could pet the dog. I did and could feel how powerful and muscular the dog was. Its claws were long and it scratched my bare arms just being friendly. I hate to think how much damage it could do if annoyed.

[Corin Stormhands]

I'm sure the dogs were really sweet too. Until they turned on the children.

We have a Lab who is just a big baby and is very tolerant of the 3-year-old. But I won't turn my back on the two of them together.

[fawn796]

Three dogs are a pack. My rottie - the sweetest dog in the world, calmly turned and bit me in the thigh. Put him down the same day.

I am now protected by Mauser (my shepherd) who will intercept any intruder to be pet, giving me time to get my gun.

[aeronca]

Maybe the owners of bad dogs should under-go background checks, pay a fee and have to have a permit to keep and bear those potentially, deadly breeds of dogs, huh? Applause to all those armed neighbors who value the sanctity of life and limb. We need a Reality TV show titled "SOME Guns Save Lives".

[Nov3]

People are stupid about dogs. Unlike most dogs, Rotts and Pit Bulls have to be trained NOT to attack.

This is OBVIOUSLY the case of a moron compensating for some size deficiency by having a bunch of dogs he percieves as bad. What an idiot. Young kids and 3 big dogs. Pits unless inbred or beaten are generally great dogs. However it seems that most of them are now owned by inbred idiots.

[China Clipper]

Wow! Interesting read

A few comments
How many shots were fired at the three dogs?
How many shots scored?
Only ONE dog was killed by the shots??!!?!?!

Does this give anyone the idea that Rottwiellers are NOT exactly the friendliest, most docile, most "pet-like" or tamest animal on the face of the earth? Do I have to remind the readers of the power and impact energy of a large caliber pistol slug?

These people who own these dogs should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, IMHO, the same way the law would prosecute any "user of a deadly weapon" in a crime, because this is a crime, a crime of negligence and stupidity.

Speaking strictly for myself, I do NOT like big dogs, period, especially around children. Animals are by nature NOT TAME, and are unpredictable at best. I'm sure a ton of people with Fidos and Spots will disagree with me, so what? Animals have minds, and are therefore unpredictable in any situation, trained or not. I refuse to listen to those who own and defend deadly animals in cases like these.

[xsrdx]

Apparently, when taking on dogs with "just" a .45, one should bring plenty of ammo...and your SureFire..

Harr, a librarian's assistant at Jimmie B. Keel Regional Library near Carrollwood, said he fired the rest of his bullets at the third dog, and it seemed to back away. He bolted for his house for more ammunition and a flashlight.

Did he miss? Or did the dog just eat 5 rounds of 45 FMJ/JHP whatever?

Sounds like a good argument for leaving the pistol and grabbing the 12GA.

Sheesh.

[fawn796]

We had three labs. Put them together in a large kennel for the day while we were away. They broke out and killed all our chickens - something none of them would have done alone. My vet laughed at us. Told me three dogs are a pack.

By the way, my black lab, a nine-year-old, will not let anyone near my children or me when my husband is away - he will growl and then bite if you get too close. It is your responsibility to know the nature of your dog - not just its breed!

That being said, ain't it great to have armed neighbors!

[2Jedismom]

May I introduce you to my friend rugerman? He's from California, a conservative, and didn't even know about Free Repubic!!

He joined yesterday and is still learning the ropes.

[Republicanus_Tyrannus]

Y'ever notice that no one is mauled by a happy Golden Retreiver?

Or by miniature dachshunds?

[dd5339]

Both my wife and I are huge Sig fans. She had a 220 in 9mm in European configuration. She sold that to buy a 226 in 9mm. Just last Sunday she found a buyer for the 226.

Since we are heading to Texas in the near future we decided that 9mm was not to be the caliber for us with respect to carry, hence selling the 226.

We might have to throw that Mauser into the mix, that's a nice looking pistol. I'm wondering how it handles and fires though. Both my wife and I are picky about the handleing of the pistol, (Sigs & 1911's fit, Glock's and HK's don't). Guess we'll have to check it out at the next show.

Semper Fi

[fawn796]

No, but I've been bitten by one (dachshund)!

[xsrdx]

Y'ever notice that no one is mauled by a happy Golden Retreiver?

Actually I think GR's account for the largest number of bites by breed - but they don't do much damage.

The problem with large, powerful working breeds is their capacity for destruction. Defenders of aggressive breeds have a point about the responsibility of the owner, but it's tough to ignore that the dog is an independent entity perfectly capable of doing whatever it chooses.

If a lab bites you, it's just annoying. Not so with a Rott, Canario, or Pit Bull having a bad day.

If you choose to keep "aggressive" breeds as pets or guard dogs, that's great, but like anything else you will bear the responsibility of your dogs misbehavior - and the "tougher" the dog, the greater the potential consequences.

[Nov3]

Yeah they aren't status symbols for inbred badasses. If they were you would see a body count.

My Black Lab was the apex of dog evolution. When He died I cried like a baby at 21 years old. I didn't cry at that point in my life! I had another lab attempt to attack me once however. Luckily there was a 1" black iron pipe handy that set the situation real clear in the dogs head. He is lucky I didn't have a pistol.

[AppyPappy]

Pit bulls are OK IF you train them. Most people don't have that desire. They just want a scary dog.

[matthew_the_brain]

Every one of these monsters should be exterminated, the entire breed needs to go away. My life will not be complete until I either run one of these demons over, or put a slug in its thick cranium.

[aeronca]

"We had three labs. Put them together in a large kennel for the day while we were away. They broke out and killed all our chickens - something none of them would have done alone. My vet laughed at us. Told me three dogs are a pack.

What your vet told you is true. When we lived out in the rurals, local farm dogs would get together in the morning and go off on jaunts together. Individually, these dogs were fine, but as a pack, they shagged small cattle, goats and chickens.

[Thinkin' Gal]

Palestinians of the dog world ping.