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North Korea Has More Than 100 Nuclear Bombs and Will Make More
Korea Web Weekly | 3.8.03 | Kim Myong Chol,

Posted on 03/08/2003 10:14:21 AM PST by Enemy Of The State

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To: Enemy Of The State
and if this little twirp harms anyone he will be vaporized
61 posted on 03/08/2003 7:50:28 PM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: HighRoadToChina
I actually like to read this North Korea stuff. It provides me with good laughs every day. I told MadIvan that the hostage triplet story wouldn't be at the top of the bizarre list. It is just going to keep getting increasingly ridiculous.
62 posted on 03/08/2003 7:53:25 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: af_vet_rr
lol..the jews have been a hot topic today. there was some frenchiefrogdude on here this morning spouting some rhetoric about the jews with MadIvan.
63 posted on 03/08/2003 7:55:13 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: First_Salute; Enemy Of The State; Normal4me
Thanks for the ping, Mike.

I don't believe the 100 figure, but I definitely believe 2-10. And that's more than enought to make me uneasy.

I posted this a month or so ago, and think much of it is still pretty relevant:

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Those (even some here on this forum) who have been critical of President Bush’s candid remarks about the North Korean leadership (a stretch of the term, for sure) ought to pull their heads out of the sand and take a good look at the big picture. If they truly believe that the President’s axis of evil comments served as the catalyst for the lunacy that is emanating from Pyongyang, they are in need of a good reality check.

Not only did the Clinton administration submit to nuclear blackmail in 1994, appeasing a Stalinist dictatorship and constructing nuclear power plants in exchange for a bogus agreement to halt an ongoing nuclear weapons program, but Mr. Clinton’s aids also turned a blind eye to the fact that North Korea also continued to develop the means of delivering such weapons. The Clinton coterie assured us, as far back as 1998, that North Korea didn’t have an active ballistic missile .... shortly after which they launched a missile over Japan, that came down off the coast of Alaska.

The winner of the Nobel Peace Prize (for which he himself lobbied, arrogantly and mercilessly) claimed that his negotiations, which resulted in our providing hundreds of millions in aid, and a nuclear reactor to boot, were successful. Mr. Carter, however, neglected to provide a means of verification (pesky consideration that is, when dealing with scoundrels).

So Kim Jong-Il has enjoyed free reign to withhold American aid from his own people, starve them at will (a million or more, it is said), and complete his efforts to build nuclear bombs, virtually unfettered.

I worked as a fuel element designer at an atomic power laboratory run by Westinghouse in the early seventies. Although the technology at that time was more primitive than it is today, I know enough to be aware that the sale late last year, by China, of a large amount of tributyl phosphate to North Korea was an ominous (gross understatement) development. TBP is an important chemical in the separating of spent fuel rods into depleted uranium, americium, and plutonium. About the same time as receiving the TBP shipment, the North Koreans also disengaged the monitoring equipment at Yongbyon, and forced UN inspectors out of the country.

Now, hardly a month later, they have announced the restart of the reactor, for the expressed purpose of generating electricity (the amount of which it is capable of producing being enough to energize a small village or two. So there is another reason for the startup of Yongbyon, and the reason should be obvious, even to the likes of Jimmy Carter.)

If North Korea already possesses sufficient plutonium for one or more atomic bombs (and that is a distinct possibility), the only part of the equation that may be missing is the ‘trigger’ -- which would explain the recent restart of Yongbyon – a gearing up to produce the needed plutonium trigger. If that is the case (i.e., if that is all they are in need of), time is at a premium. It doesn’t take years (maybe not even weeks) to produce what they need.

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Normal4me, you succeeded in making me smile about the North Korean situation. Not an easy task, so thanks! :)

Here's a little info for you zipperheads, we have satellites over you, we know where everything is. Now go away and starve for awhile, we will get to you shortly....Normal4me

64 posted on 03/08/2003 8:13:04 PM PST by joanie-f (We need the French on our side, so they can teach the Iraqis how to surrender.)
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To: Enemy Of The State
bump
65 posted on 03/08/2003 9:21:18 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: af_vet_rr
Clue - ->"...as long as we keep sending boatloads money to Israel, we are going to have problems...."

I think your statement above blames almost EVERYTHING on the "Jews", Israel being, after all, a "Jewish state".

Are you aware of the logical consequences of your phrase? Do you really believe if we sent no money at all to Israel that Arab and Islamofascist terrorists would leave us alone?

It's quite possible you are simply unaware of what constitutes an antisemitic attack, but let's see if you can try to avoid it in the future.

66 posted on 03/09/2003 5:48:04 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: joanie-f; snopercod
Cuba and North Korea are totalitarian dictatorships. NAZI Germany was a totalitarian dictatorship. The Soviet Union was a totalitarian dictatorship and still could be; the Russian people would settle for it overnight, easily convinced of the requirement in "a national emergency."

Who we fight, and who we negotiate with, has not been determined by declarations of "We fight!" or "We negotiate." made inside the Beltway. What has determned the course, has been our military strengths and weaknesses.

Military preparedness is largely assumed, here in the States, and here at FreeRepublic, but the assumptions are a pitiful substitute for what we have not: actual military strength.

North Korea is a protectorate of Red China; North Korea does Red China's bidding; and now, Red China says that the United States must direct its discussions to North Korea in order to solve what, the current nuclear crisis?, instead of, as President Bush wishes, engaging in regional, multi-lateral negotiations within the sphere of the region's nations, namely Red China, Russia, North Korea, South Korea, and Japan ( ... and Taiwan, the Phillipines, and Australia), which discussions would involve both the balance of military power and commerce.

Red China is "reluctant" because it is on the offensive; and they are testing our military strength. What they find, is that we are desperate, because we have only negotiations (= concessions) and nuclear weapons to fall back upon. We do not have the personnel, nor the material, nor the logistics (We're short of aircraft carriers and aircraft --- to do what the whizbangs inside the Beltway think that they can pull off, we need 500 C-17 air transports, 3,800 combat aircraft, and 42 aircraft carriers, in order to protect our national interests).

Red China is a totalitarian dictatorship; but unlike our "differences with" North Korea, the Soviet Union, Cuba, and NAZI Germany ... we have been making the Red Chinese extremely wealthy and steadily more powerful, in order to save a buck on Wall Street.

Iraq is a totalitarian dictatorship, but it pales in comparison, because, even though the Middle-East has become more wealthy, it has not become anywhere near as powerful as Red China.

North Korea exists to serve as a communist buffer state for Red China, and they want us to pay for it --- velly, velly, typically, inscrutably Red Chinese.

Thought the Russians and the Red Chinese are supposedly old buddies on the long march to Utopia, and they are in agreement on many of such political issues, the Soviet Union did not invade Afghanistan merely to entrench its control over south-central Asia and get closer to long-wished for sea bases (to be located in Iran in exchange for nuclear "aid") along the Indian Ocean (and closer to Diego Garcia). The Soviets invaded in order to blunt a Red Chinese invasion of south-central Asia, toward the oil-rich states.

We here in the West, are largely unaware of how much of a sense of oil-geo-politics, is normal, every day fare in government circles of Asia. Initially, Stalin was not only interested in thwarting Western influence south of the border, but the Russians have long been worried about thwarting Red China's energy ambitions south of the border.

While Pakistan appears to be ever so faithful to Allah, the government offices are riddled with "military lobbyists" from both Russia and Red China. The difference between them is that the Russians would prefer peace and progress as the endgame (they're interested in turning away from terrorism as an economic means) while the Red Chinese prefer that commerce be thwarted on its borders and wherever else it suits them and still uses terrorism to get what it wants, as it has over the millenia.

To divert the world's attention away from its energy ambitions in south-central asia / the Middle East, Red China has yanked on its chain that runs out the back yard and to the neck of North Korea, and thereby foiled, for now, the Russians' (and Japan's) plan for expanding the Trans-Siberian Railroad, all the way down and through South Korea. A railroad which would probably help lift up North Korea's economy --- one of the last things that Red China wants.

Red China does not want a united Korea that would most assuredly become an economic powerhouse and competitor; and Red China's feelings toward Taiwan are exactly the same.

While the United States believes that its bargaining chips are our productive might and promises of commercial growth, in sharp contrast, the Red Chinese are out there creating or gathering up bargaining chips on top of their increasing productive might and promises of commercial growth. They have much more with which to bargain. They have been increasing their territorial holds south and southeast of our border. They have been paying back into The Party (the former Democrat Party) in support of Clintonism since World War II; they are the anti-American foundation.

Red Chinese intel ops in the U.S. have long exceeded the Russian effort, yet they were not taken as seriously, because the theory was that Red China did not have ambitions beyond its immediate border states, they appeared to be clumsy and relatively harmless, their marginal gains for such ops, were not as great as the Russians. Not many paid attention to the Red Chinese influence on campus, where the marginal gains outpaced the Russians who mistakenly took all the credit out of "pride in workmanship," how it appeared to them, the Russians, that their work on campus "really paid off."

Fascist nationalizing socialists go to great lengths to not appear to be so on the surface, where they make the most of "cultural diversity." The Russians did not come up with this "diversity" thing on campus; Red China did. You might say that "Hitler's big mistake." was that Adolf did not have James Carville to make der Fuhrer a world-wide media darling.

The Red Chinese know that the economy of the United States relies upon the dictum, Commerce Must Go On. The Red Chinese believe that they can take harsh measures to subdue the commerce along the Korean peninsula, and that the United States will pay for it, because the United States will overlook quite a lot of destruction in exchange for commercial benefits. Basically, the United States can be bought; though the price must always be inscrutably searched for, and that is what they are up to, now.

Inertia is Red China's national id. They enjoy waking up and finding that they are winning an inch at a time. With the exception of instances of when they believe they must establish order quickly, and so they shoot somebody, they will squeeze you to death instead of shoot you. They keep P.O.W.'s because having them may pay off fifty years down the road, while Westerners are too happy to be rid of the cost.

And on that last note, I rest my case, because cost is what the West does not understand about the Red Chinese. The West thinks of cost in financial terms. The Red Chinese think of cost in terms of negative movement on the game board; it may or may not have financial meaning; and, in negotiations, when cost does not have financial meaning to them, they are happy to let you think that it does: your loss, their gain. The West thinks that the Red Chinese would not risk economic progress, but in Red China, economic progress is a delicacy. They can live without it.

Meaning, the Red Chinese are first and foremost, dictators of their fate, at almost all costs. They know that mainland China cannot be conquered. They are not building up their military to defend their homeland. They are on the offensive.

Inscrutably; because it's interesting to them.

Mo Ho Fo

67 posted on 03/09/2003 9:03:26 AM PST by First_Salute
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Where's the Onion credit?

"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

68 posted on 03/09/2003 9:04:13 AM PST by mhking ("Bill, you ignorant slut!")
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To: Enemy Of The State
Yeah, and I traded an used Spey Fly Rod for 10 of them. I plan to use them to reroute fly fishing rivers and remove enviralists from them.

BS!
69 posted on 03/09/2003 9:06:39 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: joanie-f; snopercod
See: Asia Seeks Answer to China's Ascent, Reuters, March 9, 2003; posted at FR by sarcasm, 030309.
70 posted on 03/09/2003 1:07:35 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: muawiyah
Your obsessed. Your looking for anti-Semitism where there is none. You don't see the whole picture. This conversation is over.
71 posted on 03/09/2003 1:30:19 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: bonesmccoy
Man I wish someone would teach me how to put an image into my posts. I've seen that picture before, only under the version I saw it said:

The North Korean’s have won the toss and have elected to receive!

72 posted on 03/10/2003 8:20:42 AM PST by FLdeputy
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