Terrorists of al-Qaida grew bitter while in West [KSM in NC -- A Compendium]

The Baltimore Sun | 6 March 2003 | Scott Shane

[Wallaby]

KSM info ping.

[Ben Hecks]

FYI

[bvw]

"After graduating from A&T in December 1986, Mohammed appears to have headed for Pakistan to join an elder brother in Peshawar, the Pakistani border town that served as headquarters for the mujahedeen."

So they don't know. And by what proof is he "uncle" to Ramzi Yousef? No mention of the theory that the real KSM is gone -- erased by the Iraqis along with his immediate family in Kuwait during the 1990 war, and replaced by an Iraqi agent.

[expatpat]

It's the Libertarians's fault!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for all this information!

[Wallaby]

>No mention of the theory...

Not surprisingly. There is, however, the claim that this Professor Klett saw a picture of KSM last fall that triggered a memory of the student at NC A&T.

[Guillermo]

"They come from relatively affluent backgrounds,"

Yeah but Bill Clinton and other Leftists insist that terrorism stems from poverty.

[denydenydeny]

Great job assembling all this information.

[cake_crumb]

[Mohammad was described as a mullah,] "...a Muslim who prayed five times a day and adhered strictly to the Quran's prohibition against alcohol, adultery and other vices"

(I missed part of the quote when copying it and can't find it again)

Perhaps the description of him is mistaken...he sure liked hookers and bars too.

[mattdono]

I don't want to get on a tangent, but is it possible that these guys have complexes from American women.

I wonder how many times this Ron-Jeremy-lookalike (and probaby wannabe) was repelled by American women?

I have always heard about "hell hath no fury...", but Sheesh, I thought that applied to women only.

...and, no, ladies, I am not blaming this on you or anything like that

[cake_crumb]

Interesting that colleges which indoctrinate students into hating America and freedom and believing in socialism could wonder how their school could produce a full-fledged terrorist.

[B Knotts]

Interesting that colleges which indoctrinate students into hating America and freedom and believing in socialism could wonder how their school could produce a full-fledged terrorist.

BINGO!

[Travis McGee]

It's an attraction-repulsion thing. Chaste muslim men come to the West where "forbidden fruit" (available, sexy, uncovered women and alcohol) is everywhere. After a lifetime of secret fantasies (don't forget the 72 virgin stuff!) suddenly they can walk into a strip club and get a whiskey and a lab dance. WOOOOHOOOO!!!!

How does Mohammed feel the next day? Dirty, unclean, miserable. He prays EXTRA hard for redemption. What does Allah whisper in his ear?

"You must destroy that filthy infidel society which led you astray!"

It's simple to understand, IMHO.

[ricpic]

The guy had to look forward to moustachio'd women. You'd be bitter too.

[F-117A]

Mohammed's years in America are part of a striking pattern among the terrorists of al-Qaida: Many have lived in the Western societies they now despise.

"They come from relatively affluent backgrounds," says John Calvert, a historian at Creighton University in Omaha who studies Islamist ideology. "They're well-educated. They're fluent in a Western language. But there's something about Western politics, Western culture, that makes them uneasy."

How is that any different than many Western leftists? One could safely say that the terrorist leaders are the spawn of our leftist educational system, who's teachings are reinforced by our own leftists hatred for America.

[bvw]

"Klett was the undergraduate coordinator of N.C. A&T's mechanical engineering program for about a year when Mohammed enrolled in 1984. "He didn't stick out," Klett said.

Klett said Mohammed's name was unfamiliar to him until a Los Angeles Times reporter visited his office last fall with a photo of Mohammed released by the FBI. The picture of a bearded Arab man triggered *a* memory."

Pretty weak memory! Even the reporter noted that clearly by the careful wording. Could be a false memory -- "Of course that's what I remember -- why it must be so!"

[Wallaby]

Did you catch this?

Though Chowan required students including Mohammed to attend weekly Christian services, the school also tried to accommodate the needs of Muslim students, Lewis said.

"We provided a place for them to worship on campus," he said. "I remember we all got along very well."

He said sometimes the shoes of student worshippers, left outside in accordance to tradition, would be swiped and thrown in the lake as a prank pulled by the locals on the "Abbie Dahbies," as the Arabs were known.

Mohammed met with a more serious atmosphere at A&T when he enrolled in 1985. He was part of a sizeable Middle Eastern contingent, who watched soccer instead of football, socialized mostly among themselves and lived off campus.

How long will it be before KSM's hatred for the West is blamed on the Baptists! I can hear it now:

"Those Baptists required Arab students to go to their Christian chapel, and when these Muslims tried to worship in their own shoeless way, intolerant, hate-filled students threw their shoes into the lake!"

[Madcelt]

Well, well, well,....(interesting)

[dennisw]

Though Chowan required students including Mohammed to attend weekly Christian services, the school also tried to accommodate the needs of Muslim students, Lewis said.
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I doubt he went to more than one or two Christian services.