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IRAN: God Wills It, But The People Don't Want It (Iranian youths calling Bush "the messiah")
strategypage.com ^ | April 24, 2003 | Q & D Headlines

Posted on 04/25/2003 7:55:21 AM PDT by Destro

IRAN: God Wills It, But The People Don't Want It

April 24, 2003: In Iran, young people are calling American president Bush "the messiah" and wondering when he will invade Iran and free the people from the dictatorship of the Islamic clergy. Meanwhile, the Islamic radicals see the departure of Saddam's forces as an opportunity to spread Islamic rule into Iraq. Most Iraqi Shias apparently don't want an Islamic republic. But neither do most Iranians. Makes no difference. God wills it and things are likely to get ugly before they get any better.

April 23, 2003: The Iranian rebels long based in Iraq, the People's Mujahadeen, say they have reached an understanding with American forces and have been allowed to keep their weapons and Iraq bases, as well as their goals of overthrowing the religious rules of Iran. The US government believes the People's Mujahadeen can muster about 5,000 fighters.

US Marine light armor are now patrolling parts of the Iraq border, checking for hostile (to America) Iranians crossing the border.

The US has warned Iran against sending agents and aid to Iraq in order to try and establish an Islamic republic.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrine; bushdoctrineunfold; geopolitics; iran; iranreform; iraq; iraqifreedom; july9th2003; marines; postwariraq; presidentbushlist; shias; shiite; shiites; southasia; southasialist; usmc; war
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To: Destro
Are you suggesting we treat moslems as one monolithic block? There's alot of real estate between the places you are talking about, as well as another common thread besides Islam: radical Islamic operatives.
41 posted on 04/25/2003 10:12:26 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Centurion2000
Bush "the messiah"

Y'know, a war of liberation is a kind of jihad....

YeeeeeeHaaaaa!

42 posted on 04/25/2003 10:13:56 AM PDT by no-s
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To: Lysander
It had nothing to do with gratitude. It was Jummy Dummy and Raygun fighting the cold war by opposing anything the Russians did. We often support those who turn on us. Do I need to list them? Our foreign policy has never been based in altruism, but immediate convienience.

And your alternative to a full scale nuclear strike would have been....? It's easy to criticize. What's your alternative?

Nobody said anything about altruism, but it's not unreasonable to assume those you aided would be favorably disposed toward you.

43 posted on 04/25/2003 10:18:35 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: kellynla
BTW it has been learned that it was the Iranians who were responsible for the bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983. And to this day, I haven't seen anyone from Iran come forward with the guilty parties. Yet they want us to come "liberate" them too.

Most of the ones who want us to liberate them now were in diapers in 1983.

44 posted on 04/25/2003 10:20:47 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Destro
IRAN: God Wills It, But The People Don't Want It

My advice - Try Jesus

46 posted on 04/25/2003 10:27:42 AM PDT by pbear8 ( sed libera nos a malo)
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To: demosthenes the elder
ex-boyfriend was from Iran and was very proud of being Persian. He'd flip out if anyone made the mistake of calling Iranians arabs.
47 posted on 04/25/2003 10:38:56 AM PDT by jazzyjen97
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To: papertyger
soooo? I was in diapers in 1948...didn't stop me from fighting for freedom and getting my ass shot off in 1968. And those who bombed the Marine barracks are still running free and the ones who were in diapers in 1983 I trust are out of diapers by now and can deliver to us those responsible for the bombing in 1983 and can fight for their own liberation...let me know when you catch up.
48 posted on 04/25/2003 10:39:22 AM PDT by kellynla ( "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div '69 & '70 An Hoa, Viet Nam Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla
Why are you mixing Iran's government in with the people? Two totally different things.

Iran has a very pro-American youth which is 70 percent of the population.

Keep up!
49 posted on 04/25/2003 10:40:39 AM PDT by jazzyjen97
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To: jazzyjen97
Keep up? You want me to keep up? And how many wars have you fought in? Keep up...that would be laughable if it wasn't so S T U P I D !
51 posted on 04/25/2003 10:52:47 AM PDT by kellynla ( "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div '69 & '70 An Hoa, Viet Nam Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla
keep up with the happenings in Iran.

Do you hate the Japanese because of WWII, Do you hate the Germans, Still think Putin's a Communist, Do you dislike the British because of Revolutionary War?
Alliances change around the world.

Iran's youth are pro-American and almost everyone in the Conservative camp supports their struggle.
52 posted on 04/25/2003 11:07:21 AM PDT by jazzyjen97
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To: papertyger
mujahadeen is as does-no distinction.
53 posted on 04/25/2003 11:09:09 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: jazzyjen97
Your ignorance of Iran and the history of terror that originates from there is daunting. Go away you bore me.
54 posted on 04/25/2003 11:14:52 AM PDT by kellynla ( "C" 1/5 1st Mar Div '69 & '70 An Hoa, Viet Nam Semper Fi)
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To: papertyger
Nobody said anything about altruism, but it's not unreasonable to assume those you aided would be favorably disposed toward you.

Did you really type that without laughing?

55 posted on 04/25/2003 11:29:40 AM PDT by Lysander (My army can kill your army)
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To: Destro
Indirectly Bush maybe has already helped them because now their mullahs are so busy trying to meddle in Iraq where they'd have to figure out how to control plenty of non-Shiites, maybe biting off way more than they can chew and things will finish falling apart for them back in Iran.
56 posted on 04/25/2003 11:42:09 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: ganeshpuri89
Those are the guys who were funding Torricelli.
57 posted on 04/25/2003 11:59:45 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Destro
Most ... don't want an Islamic republic. ...God wills it and things are likely to get ugly before they get any better.

The writer apparently believs God wants an Islamic republic. I suspect he is overplaying any Bush worship to help make his case.

I like Bush, but the Messiah???! The guy who said George was GOG and Barbara Bush was MAGOG made better sense!

58 posted on 04/25/2003 12:40:13 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: DannyTN
The writer apparently believs God wants an Islamic republic.

I think you misread the news writer, big time.

59 posted on 04/25/2003 12:47:03 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
"I think you misread the news writer, big time. "

Maybe he was being sarcastic when he said "Makes no difference. God wills it..." But I sure didn't read it that way and still don't.

Reporting on "kids" calling Bush of all people, the Messiah has got to be an attempt to inflame things for one reason or another. For one, I doubt that many kids would call Bush the messiah.

60 posted on 04/25/2003 12:52:08 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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