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SAS on John Walsh show 4/29: Liar, Liar
Second Amendment Sisters ^ | 4/28/03 | Maria Heil

Posted on 04/28/2003 12:18:23 PM PDT by technochick99

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41 posted on 04/28/2003 6:42:09 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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42 posted on 04/28/2003 7:35:49 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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43 posted on 04/28/2003 7:36:52 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: technochick99
She had reached under her chair for her glass of water and used it to fake tears!

What a sleazebag. Typical of the underhanded tactics that the gun grabbers have to resort to.

44 posted on 04/28/2003 7:46:25 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: technochick99; humblegunner; TexasCowboy; Squantos; dix
Thanks for the ping!!


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45 posted on 04/28/2003 7:54:34 PM PDT by Eaker (64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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To: technochick99; Squantos
Whaaaaaat!?

They got sandbagged by a covertly anti-gun show on network television!? That's never happened before!

Just tell me that all three pro-gunners were blonde and I will understand...

Bad job. Bad job indeed.

One must Perform IPB (Intelligence Preparation of the Battlefield) prior to entering the fray such that you know the stand of the enemy and his/her weaknesses. Then attack, attack, attack! Never a step back. I feel sorry for the lot, but it was their own fault and the 'Wit of the stairs' following the miserable performance gives me no comfort nor sympathy.

46 posted on 04/28/2003 7:58:07 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: chookter
I don't know why any of this would surprise me, but it does. I guess it is different when it happens so close to home.

I think perhaps you misinterpreted it, but I don't see this as a bid for sympathy. It is more indignation that something so blatant occurred. Yes, there is deception, and we all know it, but this was certainly not the Jenny Jones Show.

And as I mentioned to another poster, 10 minutes get cut. You can attack and attack, but if they don't like it: SNIP.

47 posted on 04/28/2003 8:10:02 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: technochick99
I think perhaps you misinterpreted it, but I don't see this as a bid for sympathy.

You are right.... I think they just failed to realize the absolute dishonesty and tactics of their (our) enemies--of course they lie.

It is more indignation that something so blatant occurred. Yes, there is deception, and we all know it, but this was certainly not the Jenny Jones Show.

Apparently it was.... They should have got some input from their fellow freepers. The fact that John Walsh sued to keep the records sealed in the disappearance of his son because he was a suspect made me never 'trust' him. Parents are always suspects and I always found Walsh unsavory....

And as I mentioned to another poster, 10 minutes get cut. You can attack and attack, but if they don't like it: SNIP.

Then limit the damage and walk off like Neal Boortz did on Donohue...

I know I am being overly harsh on them, but I can't believe they didn't expect the sandbag.

48 posted on 04/28/2003 8:20:19 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: Joe Brower; technochick99
Walsh is a socialist anti-gun sort. Civilians should just call 911 vs use a 1911 per his public opinion. It may be a cold thing to say but I won't listen to anyone who couldn't protect their own family tell me how I should protect mine.

Stay Safe !!

49 posted on 04/28/2003 10:10:45 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: chookter
I'm not a victim, nor am I asking for sympathy.

Tiffany and Lisa were however, victimized. I'm a little more experienced than they are.

Don't feel sorry for us either! I think that Tiffany and Lisa did great for having never done anything like that before.

From an insiders point of view, I can do so much more with what I experienced on the show than if I had never been there, or had simply walked off in protest.

Both Tiffany and Lisa have expressed to me that they were really grateful that I was on the show, someone who had the info and ability to counter what was said.

50 posted on 04/29/2003 4:41:55 AM PDT by pro2A Mom (I)
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To: technochick99
It wouldn't matter, really. First of all, being on television is not nearly as easy as some people might think. Also, from personal experience (doing the editing), anything can be edited any way you like. If Maria had responded in a way that showed up what had happened ... like, pointed out that the tears just came out of the glass so why didn't the camera show that, and so on, they would simply have cut it and edited it to look like the SASter was pitching a fit about nothing and was just being rude. I think that Maria handled it just right, but now maybe she can get Hannity or someone to have her and the liar on and really let it all hang out. I didn't get to see it, over here visiting in England, but I know that Maria did a bang-up job, and goodonner. I would love it, btw, if someone would loan me their tape of the show! ~el
51 posted on 04/29/2003 5:55:20 AM PDT by MightyMouth
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To: lainie
Easy to criticize when you're not the one sweating under the lights, isn't it? Perhaps you should perform instead of try to inform after the fact, eh?
52 posted on 04/29/2003 5:57:11 AM PDT by MightyMouth
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To: chookter
Then limit the damage and walk off like Neal Boortz did on Donohue...

I'm of the opinion that even "set up" scenes like this are good because we are exposed to more like-minded people.

53 posted on 04/29/2003 7:23:09 AM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: pro2A Mom; technochick99
Watching the show now.

To me (and I am biased) is sounds like John's trying to bail out Sylvia. Good cop/bad cop.

9 kids do not die a day from accidents, John. That's either

Easier to get a Driver's license? That's a talking point and not true, at least in Michigan. 16 year olds can't legaly buy a firearm.

There is regulation at gun shows, John. I bought guns at gun shows. They called the FBI and I filled out this BATF form. This was for rifles and shotguns. In Michigan, pistols are registered.

Two week waiting period? Waiting periods can kill. Also, If I want a gun now and want to use it in a crime, I steal one or go to Detroit where it won't be traced.

Training - I agree. Everyone should be trained.

Sylvia - Gate? A little "rich" stereotype there.

54 posted on 04/29/2003 7:31:08 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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Sylvia - "No self esteem". "Stun gun?". Bwhaahahah. Okay, you go up against a 230 pound man.

MMM'er - 22 times....That is BS from Arthur Kellermann.

55 posted on 04/29/2003 7:39:58 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: Dan from Michigan; pro2A Mom; technochick99
Am watching as well Dan...

Sylvia, the former gang member, has a different agenda..and it's not just about guns. She's looking at this entire scenario from an innercity perspective. They are taught to be afraid of guns, not people. They don't look at other inner city "bad guys" as criminals...she just said it herself in different words.

I see that Walsh endorses stricter gun control.

56 posted on 04/29/2003 7:45:02 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Dan from Michigan; pro2A Mom; technochick99
They do NOT look at it as a criminal act...see?
57 posted on 04/29/2003 7:45:30 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Dan from Michigan; pro2A Mom; technochick99
Ugggh, the trauma nurse ...

A lot of gang members (aka criminals) get "shot"..what the heck is she talking about?

The guy who just stood up and called them 3 heat packing white women, just reduced it to name calling and belittling..as if we are suppose to be ashamed to be white women gun owners. Walsh should be ashamed...to let that comment even be aired...he did not have to let the guys comment be addressed.

58 posted on 04/29/2003 7:49:22 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: Dan from Michigan
John - "automatic weapon" - I doubt they have class III's...?
Sylvia - I'm sure your brother would use a knife too. Peer pressure to bring a gun to school? WTF is this?
Who is that candyass in the audience with the lisp, and what's his problem with white women? Dumped by one since he wasn't man enough?
59 posted on 04/29/2003 7:51:51 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: Larry Lucido
Gangbangers especially will do anything..sylvia's heart has NOT been transformed. She considers herself a "former" gangbanger..but she's not changed her heart..she still uses the street tactics. (hence the need for a glass of fake tears under her chair)
60 posted on 04/29/2003 7:51:53 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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