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SAS on John Walsh show 4/29: Liar, Liar
Second Amendment Sisters ^ | 4/28/03 | Maria Heil

Posted on 04/28/2003 12:18:23 PM PDT by technochick99

From an e-alert we just sent out:

http://www.johnwalsh.tv/html/topics/index.html

Dear members and supporters,

Maria Heil, the Press Secretary for SAS, will be featured on the John Walsh show tomorrow. The show runs during the day, so set your VCRs! You should be able to check local listings at the site above.

If you go to the link above and click on the little arrow in the Women & Guns section....it does the whole promo....

But here is a write up from Maria that explains her very real concerns about the whole show.

SASsily, Juli Bednarzyk

Liar, Liar By Maria Heil

I first met Sylvia in the hallway outside of the NBC studio where they tape the daytime talk show “The John Walsh Show”. She hadn’t been in the “green room” with Tiffany, Lisa, my two daughters and me. Sylvia had been kept separate from us.

We all had our makeup touched up yet again, and then we went out on stage for a pre-show taping of all of us, in profile. Afterwards we all went back to our green rooms.

As it turns out, Tiffany was on the show because she armed herself after a brutal attack in her own home, and she is from the Baton Rouge, LA area where that serial murderer is still at large. I am on the show because I am a “gun-advocate” and I have taught my children about firearms. Lisa is on the show because she armed herself after getting away from an abusive ex-husband. She is also in the May issue of Marie Claire Magazine about “Women & Guns”. According to what we had been told about Sylvia, she was an ex-gangbanger who carries 24/7 when she goes back to her old neighborhood. She too was in the Marie Claire Magazine, although she blames guns for the grief in her life, I was told by the producer.

Showtime! John Walsh introduced all four of us as being gun-owners. We were seated in order of our segments, Tiffany, Lisa, myself, and then Sylvia. When Tiffany was telling her story, Sylvia started to say something a couple of times, but stopped herself. We went to break. Someone brought out a glass of water for Sylvia, apparently upon her request, but none was offered to the rest of us.

Now it was Lisa’s turn. Lisa never got to tell her story because Sylvia constantly interrupted. At one point Lisa said, “Excuse me, but I am speaking.” To which Sylvia replied, “I’m talking now.” Poor Lisa was spitting nails by the time we went to break.

My segment was next. They started with my brother and his concerns about my owning a gun. It wasn’t anything I couldn’t handle. Then they introduced a woman from the so-called “Million” Mom March, although I had been told that this was not supposed to be a debate! During my answers to the MMM’r, Sylvia felt compelled to interrupt me over and over. She even said that I was a criminal because I owned a gun! She went on to say that, if she had a gun, and I made her mad, she would shoot me! At one point she also said something about “rich white women who own guns”. Sylvia is black and the three of us are not. We took another break.

I looked at Sylvia after the break and she was perky and dry-eyed. When John Walsh started introducing her I looked at him as he was out among the audience. Out of the corner of my eye I saw Sylvia put her head between her knees. I thought that maybe she was nervous. When John Walsh finished introducing her, I turned to look at her and I got quite a surprise. Sylvia had pools of what looked to be tears under her eyes and running down her face. She had reached under her chair for her glass of water and used it to fake tears! I think my jaw dropped! But there was more to come…

Sylvia started out by saying that she doesn’t own a gun, which is contrary to what John said during the show introduction. She also blames guns for all the grief in her life. It was quite a show she put on. She was crying about having done some bad things with guns but mostly she was upset because her younger brother was shot in the back of the head and died instantly, and he wasn’t even “a banger”. Then she went on the say that her other brother was in jail for supposedly murdering his wife, and “if” he had done it, he never would have done it if he hadn’t had a gun! I pointed out that “if” he did it, then he had murder in his heart, and the gun was not responsible. She was soooo mad! At the end of that segment the Executive Producer came over and grabbed both arms of Sylvia’chair and told her to calm down.

After the show Sylvia went to her own green room and we went to ours. We saw her again a little while later when we were taking pictures with John Walsh backstage. Sylvia said nothing to us, and we said nothing to her.

Later, back in the green room Lisa told me about the Marie Claire Magazine article (the May issue), and told me to buy one at the train station on the way home, which I did.

Once the girls and I were settled on the train I pulled out the magazine and found the article. On page 138 is Sylvia’s story. The very first sentence states, “When I go back to Compton, CA, I stay strapped 24/7…” But, I heard her say on the John Walsh Show that she doesn’t have a gun, what gives?? There is a large picture of Sylvia, standing outside what appears to be her door, with a gun in her hand and her finger on the trigger.

I read on and was shocked to read, “I have done things with guns I regret. I spent three years in prison for attempted murder...”

As the train moved through the darkness and the girls dozed, I started thinking. Someone is a liar. Either Marie Claire Magazine lied about Sylvia owning a gun and her story, or Sylvia lied to the magazine about owning a gun, or she lied on the John Walsh Show about not owning a gun. Troubling thing is, there IS that picture in the magazine with a gun in her hand…

It had been a very long day and very draining, so my brain wasn’t firing on all cylinders. About midnight it finally clicked…she did three years in prison for attempted murder that is probably a felony. If she is a convicted felon, and hasn’t had a Presidential Pardon, or gotten her rights restored through the “redress of grievenesses” then she is not even allowed to even hold a gun! That picture is most likely a picture of a felony! It looks like that gun is going to bring her more grief. She chose to be in the article, and if she is breaking the law, she will have to answer for her actions, again.

Obviously, someone lied here somewhere.

If it was Marie Claire Magazine messing up Sylvia’s story, then I hope they have the integrity to clarify their mistake in an upcoming issue. But there IS that picture of Sylvia with a gun.

If Sylvia lied to Marie Claire about wearing a gun 24/7 in Compton, CA because she just wanted to be in the magazine, then she owes the magazine an apology. But there IS that picture of Sylvia with a gun.

Prior to the taping, if Sylvia lied to the John Walsh Show about having a gun, then she owes them an apology. But there IS that picture of Sylvia with a gun.

If Sylvia told the John Walsh Show that the magazine had messed up, and that she doesn’t own a gun, then the John Walsh Show owes the three gun-owning women an apology for misrepresenting her. But there IS that picture of Sylvia with a gun.

If Sylvia lied on stage about not owning a gun, then she owes everyone in that studio an apology. But there IS that picture of Sylvia with a gun.

Bottom line here is that someone lied. The big question is, who is the liar and will there be repercussions?

I wonder how John Walsh, of America’s Most Wanted fame, feels about showcasing an armed felon on his daytime talk show.

I wonder how the editor at Marie Claire Magazine feels about publishing a picture of a felony.


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To: lainie
He's also for "ballistic fingerprinting" for all new firearms.

Then he's an idiot or knows the issue

My congressman is a former FBI agent. He's also pro-2nd Amendment and had the best answer on this issue. Change the barrell and you get around it.

21 posted on 04/28/2003 1:57:30 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: Dan from Michigan
robert3018: do you think the million mom march is a good thing?

john_walsh_live: I think it's a great thing. I hope those guys in Washington realize that people want to see reasonable gun control. And the stupid thing the NRA says, it's not not the guns that kill it's the criminals - tell that to the family to the six year old girl, when that six year old boy brought an illegal gun to kindergarten and killed that beautiful little girl. Guess what? He wasn't a criminal. It was a gun that killed that little girl. I'm wishing the Million Moms a lot of luck.

22 posted on 04/28/2003 1:57:51 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Then he's an idiot or knows the issue and is intentionally lying about the effectiveness
23 posted on 04/28/2003 1:58:38 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: technochick99
Very interesting, but I have to say the appropriate way to address the accusations (despite how accurate they seem) would have been to do it on the show.

Lisa was aware of the Marie Calire article, but remained silent. The author was aware of the fake tears, but remained silent.

Sylvia should have been confronted then and there. To do so in forums where they will find only agreement for their positions makes the revelation fairly unproductive. We all already know that the left lies.
24 posted on 04/28/2003 2:01:54 PM PDT by sharktrager
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To: technochick99
I had the happy fortune to meet Maria at the NRA convention here in Orlando on Saturday, and she mentioned this. She said it was a total ambush, but felt she handled it quite well, of which I have no doubt. We both voiced concerns about what ended up on the cutting room floor, though.


25 posted on 04/28/2003 2:11:07 PM PDT by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: Dan from Michigan
have a police carry permit, meaning I can carry a concealed

Oh, of course. It's good for him, but not anyone else I am sure.

And the Columbine killers had automatic weapons?!?

26 posted on 04/28/2003 2:17:31 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: sharktrager
I'm not sure of everything that occurred at the taping, but they are cutting out 10 minutes of the segment tomorrow.

I think it might be easier to go off and counter attack on O'Reilly or Hannity and Colmes, but I would say there may have been incomprehesion at that very time.

I've only been on TV once, but I was too tired to make a ruckus. :) In print articles interviews, I say the most, um, straightforward things.

27 posted on 04/28/2003 2:19:52 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: Dan from Michigan
That's the thing about John Walsh. He's "pro-cop," which, to liberals means he's anti-crime, avant-garde, and a firebrand out there to protect peoples' liberty and rights, so that the rest of them don't have to get their hands dirty. To me, however, he's blindly pro-cop, and there are some bad cops and bad cop policies out there. He only gives lip service to being anti-crime and for the second amendment. It's like those people who wear little red ribbons and pat themselves on the back for "doing something for AIDS." He's all show. Absolutely not to be trusted. He's in it for John Walsh.

As for SAS, I hate to sound so overly critical, but I agree with the post above. Sending out this press release is interesting I suppose, but the real test was "hey! what are you doing over there with the glass of water!" or "Mr. Walsh, What gives? Would you care to explain yourself?" on the stage. If it resulted in "you're never appearing on our show again!" -- so what?
28 posted on 04/28/2003 2:27:16 PM PDT by lainie
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To: technochick99; Dan from Michigan
He's "pro-cop," which, to liberals means he's anti-crime, avant-garde, and a firebrand out there to protect peoples' liberty and rights, so that the rest of them don't have to get their hands dirty.

That describes O'Reilly too, heh.. :-) As does "pompous windbag" (the official B.O. descriptor at my house)

29 posted on 04/28/2003 2:30:18 PM PDT by lainie
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To: lainie
Does anyone remember that shortly after the MMM in DC, O'Reily had one of them on for an interview? O'Reily was most understanding with her. I put up a thread asking for Freepers to freep O'Reily asking for someone from SAS to have the opportunity to counter what the MMM had said.

Apparently they heard from a lot of us, because they contacted SAS, and we were able to have one of our founders, Kim, go on his show.

The only problem was, O'Reily never let her speak. He kept interrupting her, and talking over her. I have not watched his show since. I find him to be a total impolite ass, all about himself. I know for sure that he's not interested in the Constitution.

30 posted on 04/28/2003 2:49:57 PM PDT by basil
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To: basil
100% agreement. Some talk show hosts (radio and tv) have people as guests purely as a plot device, so that they can shout the guest down and rant about their own pet cause.

(some) People are left with the feeling that O'Reilly is "independent" because he puts down both liberals and conservatives. He appears earnest but IMO the truth is he's just yapping.
31 posted on 04/28/2003 2:59:15 PM PDT by lainie
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To: Dan from Michigan
You all should have heard about the trashing of Wayne LaPierre he did in the green room of the Phil Donahue show!
All green rooms have a live feed from the stage, Wayne's people were in there with John Walsh and he trashed Wayne.
I heard this from one of my contacts at the NRA HQ. John Walsh, when Wayne mentioned Charlton Heston on stage, John asked (in the green room)"Isn't he dead, yet?"

Then, last Thursday night, Wayne himself told me the story again!

John Walsh is no friend to gun-owners.

32 posted on 04/28/2003 3:42:19 PM PDT by pro2A Mom (I)
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To: lainie
You have to understand...it was not a "live" show. Things get cut, especially when you go 10 minutes over!

Why get shut down about her fake tears when there was so much more to tackle?
I'm interested in seeing what does make it on!

When you do a show like that, you have to think quick, and choose your battles. I don't expect to ever be on that show again, but I do expect to get the most out of my story about what went on during the taping. It's a fast decision about "how can this benefit SAS the most?"

33 posted on 04/28/2003 3:50:48 PM PDT by pro2A Mom (I)
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To: sharktrager
Lisa didn't see the tears, as I was blocking her view.
I didn't address the tears as I was temporarily stunned, then, when I could speak, it was because I had to respond to Sylvia's comment, I think, that her brother, if he did it, never would have murdered his wife if he hadn't had a gun!

It's always easy to make these observations after the fact, but when you are on stage, things are quite different!

Lisa did say that Sylvia was lying about having a gun, but she was promptly shouted down by Sylvia.

34 posted on 04/28/2003 3:57:04 PM PDT by pro2A Mom (I)
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To: *bang_list
OMG!!!

I just read the promo
They changed what they said about the four women! They say that the three of us are gun owners, but Slyvia is not.

Guess they didn't see or read Sylvia's story in Marie Claire, but that's where they got her from!

promo page

35 posted on 04/28/2003 4:08:39 PM PDT by pro2A Mom (I)
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To: pro2A Mom
I know, I understand. As long as there's no "I better be good so I stay on the right side of these people." That's what I was afraid of.
36 posted on 04/28/2003 4:08:46 PM PDT by lainie
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To: technochick99
I wonder how John Walsh, of America’s Most Wanted fame, feels about showcasing an armed felon on his daytime talk show.

I'm surprised that Walsh and his producers apparently did not do their homework, because if they did, they could have showed the picture of Sylvia with the gun during the show and asked her to splain.

37 posted on 04/28/2003 4:18:22 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: pro2A Mom
Well, there goes any respect I may have once had for John Walsh.
What a fraud.
38 posted on 04/28/2003 4:20:25 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Dan from Michigan
Well, from 35, it looks like he's not as honest and up-front as I thought her was!

39 posted on 04/28/2003 4:41:18 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: Lancey Howard
I'm surprised that Walsh and his producers apparently did not do their homework,

Well, since he is part of the media, we'll never really know, will we?

40 posted on 04/28/2003 6:02:53 PM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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