Posted on 04/28/2003 12:18:23 PM PDT by technochick99
From an e-alert we just sent out:
http://www.johnwalsh.tv/html/topics/index.html
Dear members and supporters,
Maria Heil, the Press Secretary for SAS, will be featured on the John Walsh show tomorrow. The show runs during the day, so set your VCRs! You should be able to check local listings at the site above.
If you go to the link above and click on the little arrow in the Women & Guns section....it does the whole promo....
But here is a write up from Maria that explains her very real concerns about the whole show.
SASsily, Juli Bednarzyk
Liar, Liar By Maria Heil
I first met Sylvia in the hallway outside of the NBC studio where they tape the daytime talk show The John Walsh Show. She hadnt been in the green room with Tiffany, Lisa, my two daughters and me. Sylvia had been kept separate from us.
We all had our makeup touched up yet again, and then we went out on stage for a pre-show taping of all of us, in profile. Afterwards we all went back to our green rooms.
As it turns out, Tiffany was on the show because she armed herself after a brutal attack in her own home, and she is from the Baton Rouge, LA area where that serial murderer is still at large. I am on the show because I am a gun-advocate and I have taught my children about firearms. Lisa is on the show because she armed herself after getting away from an abusive ex-husband. She is also in the May issue of Marie Claire Magazine about Women & Guns. According to what we had been told about Sylvia, she was an ex-gangbanger who carries 24/7 when she goes back to her old neighborhood. She too was in the Marie Claire Magazine, although she blames guns for the grief in her life, I was told by the producer.
Showtime! John Walsh introduced all four of us as being gun-owners. We were seated in order of our segments, Tiffany, Lisa, myself, and then Sylvia. When Tiffany was telling her story, Sylvia started to say something a couple of times, but stopped herself. We went to break. Someone brought out a glass of water for Sylvia, apparently upon her request, but none was offered to the rest of us.
Now it was Lisas turn. Lisa never got to tell her story because Sylvia constantly interrupted. At one point Lisa said, Excuse me, but I am speaking. To which Sylvia replied, Im talking now. Poor Lisa was spitting nails by the time we went to break.
My segment was next. They started with my brother and his concerns about my owning a gun. It wasnt anything I couldnt handle. Then they introduced a woman from the so-called Million Mom March, although I had been told that this was not supposed to be a debate! During my answers to the MMMr, Sylvia felt compelled to interrupt me over and over. She even said that I was a criminal because I owned a gun! She went on to say that, if she had a gun, and I made her mad, she would shoot me! At one point she also said something about rich white women who own guns. Sylvia is black and the three of us are not. We took another break.
I looked at Sylvia after the break and she was perky and dry-eyed. When John Walsh started introducing her I looked at him as he was out among the audience. Out of the corner of my eye I saw Sylvia put her head between her knees. I thought that maybe she was nervous. When John Walsh finished introducing her, I turned to look at her and I got quite a surprise. Sylvia had pools of what looked to be tears under her eyes and running down her face. She had reached under her chair for her glass of water and used it to fake tears! I think my jaw dropped! But there was more to come
Sylvia started out by saying that she doesnt own a gun, which is contrary to what John said during the show introduction. She also blames guns for all the grief in her life. It was quite a show she put on. She was crying about having done some bad things with guns but mostly she was upset because her younger brother was shot in the back of the head and died instantly, and he wasnt even a banger. Then she went on the say that her other brother was in jail for supposedly murdering his wife, and if he had done it, he never would have done it if he hadnt had a gun! I pointed out that if he did it, then he had murder in his heart, and the gun was not responsible. She was soooo mad! At the end of that segment the Executive Producer came over and grabbed both arms of Sylviachair and told her to calm down.
After the show Sylvia went to her own green room and we went to ours. We saw her again a little while later when we were taking pictures with John Walsh backstage. Sylvia said nothing to us, and we said nothing to her.
Later, back in the green room Lisa told me about the Marie Claire Magazine article (the May issue), and told me to buy one at the train station on the way home, which I did.
Once the girls and I were settled on the train I pulled out the magazine and found the article. On page 138 is Sylvias story. The very first sentence states, When I go back to Compton, CA, I stay strapped 24/7 But, I heard her say on the John Walsh Show that she doesnt have a gun, what gives?? There is a large picture of Sylvia, standing outside what appears to be her door, with a gun in her hand and her finger on the trigger.
I read on and was shocked to read, I have done things with guns I regret. I spent three years in prison for attempted murder...
As the train moved through the darkness and the girls dozed, I started thinking. Someone is a liar. Either Marie Claire Magazine lied about Sylvia owning a gun and her story, or Sylvia lied to the magazine about owning a gun, or she lied on the John Walsh Show about not owning a gun. Troubling thing is, there IS that picture in the magazine with a gun in her hand
It had been a very long day and very draining, so my brain wasnt firing on all cylinders. About midnight it finally clicked she did three years in prison for attempted murder that is probably a felony. If she is a convicted felon, and hasnt had a Presidential Pardon, or gotten her rights restored through the redress of grievenesses then she is not even allowed to even hold a gun! That picture is most likely a picture of a felony! It looks like that gun is going to bring her more grief. She chose to be in the article, and if she is breaking the law, she will have to answer for her actions, again.
Obviously, someone lied here somewhere.
If it was Marie Claire Magazine messing up Sylvias story, then I hope they have the integrity to clarify their mistake in an upcoming issue. But there IS that picture of Sylvia with a gun.
If Sylvia lied to Marie Claire about wearing a gun 24/7 in Compton, CA because she just wanted to be in the magazine, then she owes the magazine an apology. But there IS that picture of Sylvia with a gun.
Prior to the taping, if Sylvia lied to the John Walsh Show about having a gun, then she owes them an apology. But there IS that picture of Sylvia with a gun.
If Sylvia told the John Walsh Show that the magazine had messed up, and that she doesnt own a gun, then the John Walsh Show owes the three gun-owning women an apology for misrepresenting her. But there IS that picture of Sylvia with a gun.
If Sylvia lied on stage about not owning a gun, then she owes everyone in that studio an apology. But there IS that picture of Sylvia with a gun.
Bottom line here is that someone lied. The big question is, who is the liar and will there be repercussions?
I wonder how John Walsh, of Americas Most Wanted fame, feels about showcasing an armed felon on his daytime talk show.
I wonder how the editor at Marie Claire Magazine feels about publishing a picture of a felony.
What a sleazebag. Typical of the underhanded tactics that the gun grabbers have to resort to.
They got sandbagged by a covertly anti-gun show on network television!? That's never happened before!
Just tell me that all three pro-gunners were blonde and I will understand...
Bad job. Bad job indeed.
One must Perform IPB (Intelligence Preparation of the Battlefield) prior to entering the fray such that you know the stand of the enemy and his/her weaknesses. Then attack, attack, attack! Never a step back. I feel sorry for the lot, but it was their own fault and the 'Wit of the stairs' following the miserable performance gives me no comfort nor sympathy.
I think perhaps you misinterpreted it, but I don't see this as a bid for sympathy. It is more indignation that something so blatant occurred. Yes, there is deception, and we all know it, but this was certainly not the Jenny Jones Show.
And as I mentioned to another poster, 10 minutes get cut. You can attack and attack, but if they don't like it: SNIP.
You are right.... I think they just failed to realize the absolute dishonesty and tactics of their (our) enemies--of course they lie.
It is more indignation that something so blatant occurred. Yes, there is deception, and we all know it, but this was certainly not the Jenny Jones Show.
Apparently it was.... They should have got some input from their fellow freepers. The fact that John Walsh sued to keep the records sealed in the disappearance of his son because he was a suspect made me never 'trust' him. Parents are always suspects and I always found Walsh unsavory....
And as I mentioned to another poster, 10 minutes get cut. You can attack and attack, but if they don't like it: SNIP.
Then limit the damage and walk off like Neal Boortz did on Donohue...
I know I am being overly harsh on them, but I can't believe they didn't expect the sandbag.
Stay Safe !!
Tiffany and Lisa were however, victimized. I'm a little more experienced than they are.
Don't feel sorry for us either! I think that Tiffany and Lisa did great for having never done anything like that before.
From an insiders point of view, I can do so much more with what I experienced on the show than if I had never been there, or had simply walked off in protest.
Both Tiffany and Lisa have expressed to me that they were really grateful that I was on the show, someone who had the info and ability to counter what was said.
I'm of the opinion that even "set up" scenes like this are good because we are exposed to more like-minded people.
To me (and I am biased) is sounds like John's trying to bail out Sylvia. Good cop/bad cop.
9 kids do not die a day from accidents, John. That's either
Easier to get a Driver's license? That's a talking point and not true, at least in Michigan. 16 year olds can't legaly buy a firearm.
There is regulation at gun shows, John. I bought guns at gun shows. They called the FBI and I filled out this BATF form. This was for rifles and shotguns. In Michigan, pistols are registered.
Two week waiting period? Waiting periods can kill. Also, If I want a gun now and want to use it in a crime, I steal one or go to Detroit where it won't be traced.
Training - I agree. Everyone should be trained.
Sylvia - Gate? A little "rich" stereotype there.
MMM'er - 22 times....That is BS from Arthur Kellermann.
Sylvia, the former gang member, has a different agenda..and it's not just about guns. She's looking at this entire scenario from an innercity perspective. They are taught to be afraid of guns, not people. They don't look at other inner city "bad guys" as criminals...she just said it herself in different words.
I see that Walsh endorses stricter gun control.
A lot of gang members (aka criminals) get "shot"..what the heck is she talking about?
The guy who just stood up and called them 3 heat packing white women, just reduced it to name calling and belittling..as if we are suppose to be ashamed to be white women gun owners. Walsh should be ashamed...to let that comment even be aired...he did not have to let the guys comment be addressed.
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