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The Vast Dubya & DeLay Conspiracy
Rush Limbaugh ^ | June 30, 2003 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 06/30/2003 3:59:40 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

The Vast Dubya & DeLay Conspiracy

June 30, 2003

Depending on where you go and in what circles you travel, conservatives are livid with the Bush administration. Some, more so than others, are furious over the size of the federal budget, the failing to rein in any kind of spending, tax cuts for people who don't pay taxes, the Medicare prescription drug benefit, the list continues - and there’s a great deal of head scratching going on.

I came across an Associated Press story over the weekend that attempts to shed some light on what’s happening, which you can hear me read in the audio links below. However, the story seems to imply there’s a conspiracy between the White House and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.

Here’s just one excerpt: “DeLay has become the most identifiable representative of the party's right wing, and the two Texans have had a sometimes scrappy relationship. Clashes may become more frequent as Bush moves beyond his current phase of fund raising among loyal Republicans and shifts his attention to the general electorate, analysts suggest. At the same time, Bush and his advisers are mindful that if they go too far, they could alienate conservatives whose support he needs. ‘Bush is carefully picking and choosing his fights,’ said GOP consultant Scott Reed. ‘There's a healthy back and forth between the White House staff and DeLay that is mutually beneficial to both.’”

The story continues to suggest that Bush is telling DeLay to go ahead and stop what he’s trying to do - on purpose. The idea being that Bush can thus claim credit for supporting whatever measure, while DeLay and other conservatives can point to victory for blocking its ultimate passage. A caller later asked: “Isn't this the same strategy that Bush used on campaign finance reform, only he is counting on the Supreme Court to shoot it down?” You can hear my answer below.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; conservatives; conspiracy; delay
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To: Miss Marple
I would guess that if President Bush issued executive orders to outlaw abortion, packed the Supreme Court with conservatives, ordered Ashcroft to indict Clinton tomorrow, and cancelled both the Education and Farm Subsidy bills...

Now you're talking my language!

61 posted on 06/30/2003 7:54:43 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: TLBSHOW
The point is, Todd, that predictions of voters deserting him in droves is simply hot air.

If the democrats and the middle didn't desert Clinton, why would the Republicans and the middle desert Bush?

63 posted on 06/30/2003 7:55:01 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: MissAmericanPie
Bush himself said it. That he might not run again.

I missed that nugget of news. Thanks for sharing some positive news for a change.

64 posted on 06/30/2003 7:56:15 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Miss Marple
I would guess that if President Bush issued executive orders to outlaw abortion, packed the Supreme Court with conservatives, ordered Ashcroft to indict Clinton tomorrow, and cancelled both the Education and Farm Subsidy bills, you would STILL find him unacceptable.


And told the truth about islam and said he was sorry for signing CFR and sorry for back stabbing Lott and our Christian leaders. Stops listening to Grover and meeting with terroist. Well then he just might get some support from TLBSHOW!

Until then Bush does not have my support beyond the war with Iraq.
65 posted on 06/30/2003 7:57:20 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: habs4ever
watch it buster no name calling.
66 posted on 06/30/2003 7:58:20 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: ladyinred
I want to support George W. Bush, he has done a few good things, but his continuing expansion of government social programs that in my opinion go against the constitution, make it very difficult.

He has been very slow at replacing the clintonistas in the Department of Interior, the land grabs continue, he expanded the Department of Education, his "No Child Left Behind," program is the next step in Outcome Based Education-Goals 2000-School to Work, the Soviet Education System. The increase in funding the Arts, I won't go into what is now considered art. Massive expansion of the Farm Program, (can you say welfare for Archer Daniels Midland.) the Hart Rudman Homeland Defense Act. Taking your tax dollars and buying prescriptions for seniors, Tax Cuts, (more welfare) for those who don't pay taxes. He resisted arming pilots, supports the Assult Weapons Ban. Since I live near the Mexican Border, my favorite has to be, his open border policy.

Please help me find a reason to support him.

67 posted on 06/30/2003 7:58:44 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: MissAmericanPie
That he might not run again.

When did he say that?

68 posted on 06/30/2003 8:01:32 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: c-b 1
C#60
69 posted on 06/30/2003 8:01:47 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Fred Mertz
I said:

I would guess that if President Bush issued executive orders to outlaw abortion, packed the Supreme Court with conservatives, ordered Ashcroft to indict Clinton tomorrow, and cancelled both the Education and Farm Subsidy bills...

You said:

Now you're talking my language!

OK Fred, we now see what principles you have. Issuing executive orders over abortion would deny the authority of the Supreme Court. President Bush has no authority to order an indictment of the Clintons. Cancelling the two bills, passed by both houses of Congress and signed into law, would be blatantly unconstitutional. You apparently want a dictator who will rule in the manner you prefer.

70 posted on 06/30/2003 8:03:25 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: ArneFufkin
You are the worst example of Bushbot I have ever come across. Most of the conservative here on FR have been here since the beginning fighting the good fight. We supported Bush because he told us he was conservative and we believed him. Now we feel cheated. He signs and supports one liberal agenda item after another and we are supposed to be happy about it. The fact is that if Hillary Clinton was doing half the stuff Bush is doing most of you Bushbots would be crying blooding murder, but because George II is doing it it is all right with you. I for one am tired of hearing about some supposed Bush agenda to outwit the Dems. The only agenda I see is Karl Roves agenda to get Bush re-elected by talking like a conservative and governing like a liberal, thus playing both sides of the street. It may be successful, but that doesn't make him a conservative, and doesn't make many of us happy. My greatest concern is that so many of your type have no guiding principles in your life. You are wrapped up in the personality and not the actions of the person you support. How pathetic.
71 posted on 06/30/2003 8:03:28 PM PDT by redangus
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To: Southack; ladyinred; Howlin; Miss Marple
"Just take a peak at Bush's fundraising. You don't pull in that kind of money if your base is unhappy."

Everyone I pinged are old friends of mine.
I'm sorry, old friends. I've got to disagree with you.

Look at where this money is coming from.
Agribusiness, the hotel and entertainment business, the construction industry and the textile corporations all depend on cheap labor for increased profits.
As long as GW keeps the borders open, they'll contribute to his campaign.

It's simply not true that Conservatives are happy with GW.
There is too much socialistic water under the bridge since he took office to make them satisfied.
All of this pains me greatly because I loved that man more than any President we have ever had in my lifetime.
I still respect his decision to go into Iraq, and I admire his courage in doing so.
With his domestic policies, however, I feel betrayed like so many Conservatives I talk with every day.

72 posted on 06/30/2003 8:04:33 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: c-b 1
Please help me find a reason to support him.

I thought he displayed some leadership qualities for a while, but now I see him as a politician and marionette. Very sad to see Dubya play his assigned role rather than exhibiting presidential leadership.

73 posted on 06/30/2003 8:04:42 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: TLBSHOW
Me, call you names? after all the crap you have dished out the past 3 weeks around here? You are one pathetic cry baby.
74 posted on 06/30/2003 8:05:35 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: TexasCowboy
You may not like his base, but his base likes Bush -- and they are NOT deserting him.

That's wishful thinking of your part.
75 posted on 06/30/2003 8:05:42 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: c-b 1
You don't want a reason to support him. Go to DU and find a candidate to your liking.

Or go to one of the third party sites and find like-minded folks who will kvetch in unison, and where you can feel self-satisfied at your principles.

76 posted on 06/30/2003 8:06:30 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: redangus
That was well stated.
77 posted on 06/30/2003 8:07:03 PM PDT by john the bowler
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To: c-b 1
Please help me find a reason to support him.

Picture of GWB in Jeans

78 posted on 06/30/2003 8:08:47 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: TexasCowboy
I'm sorry, old friends. I've got to disagree with you.

We're all dead meat, Cobby. I had high hopes too. I went to the FR Inaugural Ball because I was so hopeful.

That was then and boy was I a sucker.

79 posted on 06/30/2003 8:09:12 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: redangus
Why do you call people Bush Bots? Are they more stupid than Democrats? If someone isnt a libertarian, are they thus...unthinking? Why should an intelligent voter support the fringe to gain your approbation when supporting the majority is in one's best interest?If you really think a confident, assured Republican will cower by being called a bush Bot, you are as dumb as the supporters of Harry Browne.
80 posted on 06/30/2003 8:11:11 PM PDT by habs4ever
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