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Posted on 07/11/2003 9:35:43 AM PDT by DPB101
Treason, page 11:
"John F. Kennedy's pronouncements on Communism could have been spoken by Joe McCarthy. His brother Robert worked for McCarthy."
( page 101)"John F. Kennedy fiercely defended McCarthy. . .in response to a speaker's lighthearted remarks that, unlike the law school, Harvard College could be proud of never having produced either an Alger Hiss or a Joe McCarthy, Kennedy erupted, "How dare you couple the name of a great American patriot with that of a traitor?"
Horowitz:" . . .by refusing to credit the laudable role played by patriotic, anti-Communist liberals like Truman, Kennedy and Humphrey, Coulter has compromised her case . . ."
Treason, page 11:
"There were, admittedly, a few rare and striking exceptions to the left's overall obtuseness to Communist totalitarianism. The Democratic Party was certainly more patriotic then than it has become. Throughtout the sixties, the Democrats could still produce the occasional Scoop Jackson Democrat . (JFK's statments on communism ) could have been spoken by Joe McCarthy . . .for all his flaws, President Harry Truman was a completely different breed than today's Democrats: He unquestionably loved his country
( page 68) . . .Walter Reuther and Hubert Humphrey. . .were far rougher with Communists than McCarthy ever was. . .in 1954 Senator Humphrey introduced a bill that would have outlawed the Communist Party. Outlawed it. That was the year the Senate voted to censure McCarthy. . .
Horowitz: There were many liberals – Scoop Jackson and Jeanne Kirkpatrick among them – who were just as worthy defenders of America and prosecutors of the anti-Communist cause . . .
Treason, page 180:
New York Times columnist Flora Lewis scoffed at Jeane Kirkpatrick's "remarkable" claim...that "the Russians had nearly taken over until the Reagan administration." Where? Lewis demanded to know. As Ambassador Kirkpatrick said in her speech--just a sentence or two later--in the decade preceding Reagan's inauguration, the Soviets had expanded their influence into South Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Angola, Ethiopia, Mozambique, South Yemen, Libya, Syria, Aden, Congo, Madagascar, the Seychelles, Nicaragua and Grenada. Other than that, no place really.
Horowitz:"The problem with Coulter’s book is that she is not willing to concede that McCarthy was, in fact, demagogic in any sense at all, or that that his recklessness injured the anti-Communist cause."
That wasn't the book Ann wanted to write. There are more than a few books available--hundreds probably--which "concede" McCarthy was "demagogic" and "injured the anti-communist cause." If David Horowitz feels the need for another, he should write one himself.
Ann Coulter didn't "concede" he injured the anti-Communist cause because she doesn't believe he did.
Treason Page 70
The rote smirking at McCarthy by conservatives is linked to their own psychological compulsion to snobbery. McCarthy was a popularizer, a brawler. Republican elitists abhor demagogic appeals to working-class Democrats. Fighting like a Democrat is a breech of etiquette worse than using the wrong fork. McCarthy is sniffed at for not playing by Marquis of Queensberry Rules--rules of engagement demanded only of Republicans. Well, without McCarthy, Republicans might be congratulating themselves on their excellent behavior from the gulag right now. He may have been tut-tutted on the golf course, but McCarthy made the American workers' blood boil.
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Maybe Dave's returning to his Red roots. Or maybe he just wants to please all his rich Left Coast neocon friends that help keep him living la belle vie in Malibu.
My parents always supported McCarthy. However, an article criticizing Coulter's book mentions McCarthy represented SS soldiers in the investigation of the WWII Malmedy Massacre. The link to this article is here.
Or maybe Horowitz is just being consistent and honest in holding Ann to the same high standards he would hold anyone else to. I love Ann's writings, but she got sloppy with this book, and deserves the critique Horowitz gives her. You think Ronald Reagan, Abe Lincoln, and other conservatives didn't make mistakes in their youth? You think they were never called on the carpet by older conservatives/mentors, to be used as a learning and forming experience? Learning from mistakes is a part of the development process, 'as iron sharpens iron'. Horowitz in the long term has done Ms. Coulter, and conservatism, a favor.
Frankly your cheap smear against Horowitz is disgusting. How childish to slander and trash the man via extreme innuendo just because he says something you disagree with. He's done a tremendous amount of good work for the conservative cause, and his autobiography 'Radical Son' is an incredibly effective tool for winning liberals over to conservatism. Yeah, he's still liberal on a few social conservative issues, but judge the man on the whole of his contributions to conservatism, not a single-issue.
Frankly I am amazed that there are any conservatives left, given how some are always demanding witch trials at the first hint of a dissenting opinion.
STATEMENT OF SGT. BARRY F. RHODEN (The McCarthy Transcript Liberals Do Not Want You To Read)
When the sealed McCarthy transcripts were released last May, the media made no mention that 16 Korean War vets testified. The press was too busy whining about the injustice of McCarthy calling Aaron Copland to testified (who rarely turned down an offer to join any communist front and who lied about his red affiliations when applying for a passport).
While Copland was touring the world with Soviet groups, Sgt. Rhodan was recovering from a gunshot wound to the back inflicted when communists executed the rest of his unit after it had been captured. Sgt Rhodan had been tortured and interrogated before being shot. When he returned to the USA, he received communist propaganda in the mail. McCarthy wanted to know who in the USA was receiving information on our vets from the North Koreans.
He doesn't hold himself to "high standards." From his review, I doubt he read the book before commenting on it. How else would you explain the flat out mis-statements he made above?
What is "sloopy" about Coulter's book? I've got it right here. Cite me some concrete examples.
Disappointing that David didn't really add much useful to the discussion. He might have done better just to keep quiet, but I suspect he's paying back a few favors for old fellow travellers--some of the non-traitors, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
HF
I think a more true book could have been written which suggested that many Democrats from elite backgrounds who were not communists, simply couldn't believe anyone from their sort would actually be a communist. A similar class blindness was also evident in England. Further, I think there was a relatively quiet until the late '60s struggle for the soul of the Democratic party, which was won by those who were truly sympathetic to communism. The old anti-communist Democrats who rallied behind Truman in 1948 and carried the banner through the LBJ era may have been somwhat foolish, but they were not traitors, regardless how misguided they were on domestic policy.
I am no fan of the Kennedys. I think of them as St. John the Martyr, Robert the Dead, and Edward the Pretender. John Kennedy, at least, was probably more in that school than not. I'm not so sure about Robert, whom I regarded in life as an exceptionally dangerous and unscrupulous man. At the risk of sounding ghoulish, I think the nation was far better off that he was removed from the political scene. Teddy, of course, is loved by the left as a Useful Idiot, too stupid to realize how he is being manipulated.
Defending the SS is not something I would want to do. But I will point out that John Adams (future second president of the US) defended the British Redcoats who were invovled in the Boston Massacre in 1770. He won the case.
I don't mean to equate the two, but I just want to point out that it is a good old American value to give everyone a fair trial. I suspect (don't recall) that after the SS got a fair trial, with a defense attorney who probably didn't volunteer the assignment, the guilty folks were probably suitably punished.
I don't respect McCarthy less for his role as a defense attorney.
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