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Tape of U.S. attorney: Foster probe a fraud
WorldNet Daily ^ | Thurs. Jul 17, 2003 | Art Moore

Posted on 07/17/2003 6:26:56 AM PDT by tomball

ALL THE EX-PRESIDENT'S SCANDALS
Tape of U.S. attorney:
Foster probe a fraud
Investigator says FBI warned 'back down,' White House knew before 911 call made

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Posted: July 17, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Art Moore
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

The death of deputy White House counsel Vincent Foster – one of the most bizarre events of the Clinton years – was ruled a suicide by two independent counsels and considered a closed case by the mainstream media. Any suggestion that officials covered up the "murder" of Bill and Hillary Clinton's loyal aide and close friend has invited only scorn from lawmakers. Just a handful of media outlets have ever followed up on evidence and testimony from witnesses that contradict the conclusions of government investigators Robert Fiske and Kenneth Starr.

But as the 10th anniversary of the July 20, 1993, death nears, the voice of one of Starr's key investigators is challenging the official line, insisting the probe's result was predetermined, only a few plotters were required to engineer the result, the crime scene was altered and that major newspaper editors have killed stories by reporters pursuing the truth.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Miquel Rodriguez is no longer speaking to the press, but a newly released audio recording purportedly contains excerpts of his candid comments on the case.

"This whole notion of [Fiske and Starr] doing an honest investigation is laughable," Rodriguez says, according to the tape.

The accepted verdict, that Vince Foster killed himself at Ft. Marcy Park near Washington, was predetermined by a "higher authority" at the start of the investigation, asserts Rodriguez, who noted he did extensive interviews with major newspapers, including the New York Times, that were never published.

"All I know is that things did not happen the way Fiske says that they happened, and the reports don't support what Fiske said," Rodriguez stated. "There is nothing consistent with [Foster] committing that kind of violent act at all."

Rodriguez, who was hired by Starr in 1994 to lead his grand jury investigation, is now an assistant U.S. attorney in Sacramento, Calif.

He was no conservative, wrote London Telegraph reporter Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in his book "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton."

"He had no ideological investment in the matter," Evans-Pritchard wrote. "Indeed, when he arrived from California with his ponytail, his earring, and his leather jackets, there were comments among the hard-liners that Kenneth Starr had gone too far in his efforts to recruit Democrats, liberals, and ethnic minorities to his team."

The recording was produced by Patrick Knowlton – a witness in the case whose court-ordered appendix to Starr's Foster report alleged a cover-up – and his attorney John Clarke.

Clarke told WorldNetDaily he cannot divulge how Knowlton acquired the tapes but notes that by publishing the recording, he is putting his career on the line.

"If I were to put out ginned up tapes of an assistant U.S. attorney, they would revoke my license immediately," he said. "It's probably a criminal offense."

The recording has been posted on Knowlton's website [MP3 download] and by Accuracy in Media, which has followed the case closely since 1994.

A lifelong Democrat who voted for Bill Clinton in 1992, Knowlton told WND the tapes of Rodriguez were legally recorded, legally obtained and come from a "very reliable source."

Knowlton said he wished he had the recording when he sued the FBI in 1996 for witness tampering.

He says he pulled into Fort Marcy Park to relieve himself at about 4:30 p.m. on the day Foster's body was found there. The implication of his testimony to Park Police and the FBI was that Foster's car was not at the park when the body was discovered.

Two years later, Knowlton was shocked to find out from Evans-Pritchard that the FBI report of his testimony had been altered to fit the suicide theory.

Since 1995, Knowlton and Clarke have initiated their own investigation, summarized in a 510-page book, "Failure of Public Trust," which uses official documents from the case. A website offers access to related material.

"I have not let up on it," Knowlton said. "My persistence in looking for and talking to people has brought me to this information."

Determined from get-go

Starr hired Rodriguez in October 1994 to lead the grand jury investigation into Foster's death but resigned the next spring out of frustration.

"I was told what the result was going to be from the get-go," Rodriguez said. "This is all so much nonsense; I knew the result before the investigation began, that's why I left. I don't do investigations to justify a result."

Rodriguez said his supervisor, Mark Touhey, who headed Starr's Washington office at the time, squelched his efforts to issue subpoenas and call witnesses.

"My office was searched by him," he said of Touhey. "I know what he's capable of doing, and that includes throwing a tantrum and throwing chairs."

Like Knowlton, Rodriguez claims the FBI threatened him, not only targeting his career reputation, but his "personal well being."

"The FBI told me back off, back down," Rodriguez said. "I have been communicated with again and been told to be careful where I tread."

According to the Starr Report, the Secret Service said they were notified of Foster's death at 8:30 p.m., about two and a half hours after paramedics were called.

This apparent delay occurred despite the fact that Foster's White House identification was clearly visible to police on the scene.

But Rodriguez believes the White House knew before the first 911 call was placed.

"There was notification made well before the time the EMTs were called," he said.

Rodriguez says, according to the tape, he has told his story to many reporters and producers from media such as Time magazine, Newsweek, ABC's Nightline, New York Times, Boston Globe and Atlanta Journal-Constitution – but none have done anything about it.

"This matter is sealed so tightly," he said.

Many reporters with whom he spent considerable time called back and said their editors would not let the story go to press.

"The accepted media here have always had a certain take on all of this, and there has been a storyline from the get-go," he said.

Rodriguez noted he was with a New York Times reporter for about six hours.

"I know the guy knows that there's a lot more," he said. "I know the New York Times knows. I know that they won't do anything about it."

Change of scenery

When Rodriguez began probing Foster's death, he followed the standard rule that a violent, unattended death is treated as a homicide until evidence rules it out. He discovered, however, U.S. Park Police had ruled it a suicide from the start despite the determination of experienced paramedics on the scene who reported it as a homicide.

He said the paramedics who first arrived reported seeing little blood – which would not support the suicide theory – but various personnel who came later saw a considerable amount.

Rodriguez said that blood came from lifting the body, pulling it to the top of the berm and laying it crossways, allowing blood to gush out.

The body was moved in the presence of officer John Rolla, the chief of the Park Police probe, and the coroner, Rodriguez said.

The tampering with crime-scene evidence included the relandscaping of the entire area, he said, hindering future probes.

"It was landscaped on the sly long ago," he said.

Rodriguez also notes a paramedic who arrived on the scene testified he found an automatic pistol in Foster's hand, in contrast to later reports of a 1913 Colt revolver.

The official conclusion was that Foster shot the pistol through his mouth, but Rodriguez points out both paramedics observed a wound on his neck.

One paramedic stuck with his original observation, despite the FBI's attempt to "shake him," Rodriquez said.

The other was confused by the FBI, he said, "and kept saying what he saw, but they kept writing it a different way."

"I saw pictures that clearly indicate that there is trauma on the neck," Rodriguez said. "I believe it's a puncture wound to the neck."

Takes only a few

Rodriquez addressed the notion that predetermining the conclusion to the investigation would be impossible because too many people would have to be in on the secret.

"Everyone makes a very big mistake when they believe a lot of people are necessary to orchestrate some results," he said.

"All people need to know is what their job is, not why – be a good solider, carry out the orders."

"There are a lot of people, starting at the very night the body was investigated, all the way down the line … told to do certain things" who "don't necessarily know the big picture," he said.

Only a couple of people is all that is needed to "control the central figures in the investigation," he said.

Rodriguez said it is very misleading to say there were several investigations done.

"In fact, all of the investigations were done by the same people, the FBI."

The Senate Banking Committee conducted an investigation in 1994, but not into Foster's death. The scope was limited to whether or not the White House improperly influenced the probe by park police.

 



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To: MHGinTN
So are you saying that Foster and Parks were expunged for expunging an FBI file? Hillary and Foster were under surveillance for treason at the time of Foster's death.
21 posted on 07/19/2003 5:17:49 AM PDT by rubbertramp
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To: tomball
bump in memoriam
22 posted on 07/20/2003 4:52:37 AM PDT by nocuous
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To: crimefighter4; rubbertramp; Fred Mertz; Wallaby
maybe it would be appropriate that on the 10th anniversary of Vince Foster's death, someone who was actually at the death scene come forward to clarify some of the details?

excert from THE SECRET LIFE OF BILL CLINTON by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard:

It is not every day that the U.S. Park Police have a dead body on their hands. Perhaps that is why Park Police Officer Kevin Fornshill was so eager to respond when a "DB" alert came over the radio at 6:05 PM and 30 seconds.

He was responsible for guarding the parkway entrance to the CIA, where he had been posted on special assignment. It was not really his job to rush over to the crime scene, or death scene, or whatever it was. That was the task of the beat officer in Car 211, Franz Ferstl, who was patrolling the parkway. But Fornshill took it upon himself to fing the body before anyone else.

<<< snip >>>

Even though Forshill had lost all curiosity in the crime scene, he still felt confident enough to infer the cause of death. After two minutes, he contacted Park Police communications and announced that it "appeared to be a suicide."

23 posted on 07/20/2003 3:20:13 PM PDT by thinden
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To: Fred Mertz; hotshot; rubbertramp; Wallaby; aristeides
another 10th anniversary observation picked up from J. Orlin Grabbe's series on the death of VWF, part 35:

The tapes could have been removed by anyone with access to the room where the videotapes are stored. Secondly, however, movement in and out of the storage room is itself videotaped. But the tape which recorded access to the storage room is blank.

interesting how so many questions could be answered just by browsing thru WH video tapes of July 20, 1993:
who went in & out of his office?
when did he leave the white house?
did he leave in his own car?
who went through his office?
what were they carrying out?

one person who could possibly answer questions about those tapes would be formwe WH Communications Officer, Sharlot Donovan.

Unfortunately, for Sharlot, her family, and friend, she was an "arkancide" victim herself after holding plastic bags over her head until she sufffocated in an obscure motel room. RIP.

24 posted on 07/20/2003 3:55:00 PM PDT by thinden
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To: Fred Mertz
Maybe we'll learn about who killed Vince Foster when we're deceased or old and senile.

Now that we have a wonderful Christian conservative Republican in the White House, I think the truth will come out much sooner.

25 posted on 07/20/2003 3:56:34 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: Mulder; thinden; Fred Mertz; aristeides
We may be ten years older, but we ain't senile yet....

My guess is that it was "friends of Hillary" (see motive above) in Marcy Park with the revolver.

When the perp starts lying, the detectives start questioning... hinky telephone records

26 posted on 07/21/2003 6:11:24 AM PDT by rubbertramp
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To: rubbertramp
"I craved information like oxygen," she wrote.

very clintonesque!

the information she "craved" was later found by maggie williams, susan thomases, & bernie neussbaum in VWF's file cabinets, computer, & safe. it was boxed up and carted out for safekeeping while LEO were held at bay.

p.s. iirc, there were rumors at the time that Buddy Young was in DC on 7/20/03

27 posted on 07/21/2003 6:23:39 AM PDT by thinden
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To: rubbertramp
The Clintons were serious detrimental saboteurs of the United States.

Aided and abetted by the Janet Reno Justice Department.

28 posted on 07/21/2003 6:35:08 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: tomball
Can somebody explain a missing fact here -- Why in the heck would Ken Starr of all people want to cover up something that might have actually gotten Bill Clinton kicked out of office?
29 posted on 07/21/2003 6:39:41 AM PDT by kegler4
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To: kegler4; aristeides; rubbertramp; Wallaby; Fred Mertz; HAL9000
Why in the heck would Ken Starr of all people want to cover up something that might have actually gotten Bill Clinton kicked out of office?

one plausibility could be that ken starr & his high powered law firm represented one of bubba's largest campaign donors. cain't member the exact name off hand, but it was basically a front company (like china resourses or norinco or some such) for the chinese government. if you'll recall, they were funnelling huge illegal campaign contributions to bubba/dnc via many channels....including grocery bags full of money orders...and in return were getting major defense technology (among other things) in return.

30 posted on 07/21/2003 9:56:02 AM PDT by thinden
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To: thinden
I will never forgive any Clintonites for this coverup....

I will never forgive Ken Starr either...

"trust Starr" .....yeah, right...

in fact, the so-called Republican "investigators" were more corrupt than the Clintonistas....

except, if the evil was so pervasive and such enormous threats made, that Starr and his bunch had no choice but to cover-up...

for all we know, the Clintonistas' threatened to send the world into nuclear war, or just something as simple as threatening to kill the children....

that list of suspect deaths is a long one....

31 posted on 07/21/2003 10:05:04 AM PDT by cherry
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To: thinden
I suspect that it's more that the movers and shakers that pull the strings of the two major parties don't want to see either of them discredited. They far prefer a system where they control both parties to whatever might replace it if people become too disillusioned.
32 posted on 07/21/2003 10:54:49 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: thinden
Sharlott had a lot of secrets which made her hide in Delaware until her death. She went to D.C. (Marlow Heights) on the 26th of February 1995 and stayed one night at the old Holiday Inn on Rt.5. She disappeared on the 27th. Her hotel room was cleaned spotlessly. She left out of the sliding door on the ground floor so no one saw anything or hear anything. I called the D.C. police with a missing person or kidnapping report which was not investigated on the 27th and 28th. She withdrew $150.00 out of my account along 95 in S.C. on the 28th. Sharlott was then found in the Holiday Inn Riverfront in S.C. dead on the morning of the 29th of February. Someone paid cash for the room even though she had credit cards she normally used with her. Her Red Ford Probe was found in the hotel parking lot, MD 440 AMG. There was a loaded S&W .22 caliber gun in a brown case on the bed beside her which was not fired. Her body was flown back to Hartselle, Alabama. She worked for the communications section until early 1995 in the rear of the White House which monitor all of the White House security and communications.
33 posted on 07/29/2003 6:56:55 AM PDT by hotshot
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To: hotshot; AJFavish; Wallaby; aristeides; Fred Mertz; rubbertramp; MizSterious
an untold tragedy.

my prayers of comfort go out to the family & friend of sharlott.

thanx for sharing this information.

34 posted on 07/30/2003 6:25:50 AM PDT by thinden
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To: Alamo-Girl
heads up.

you may want to update your files based on post # 33?
35 posted on 07/30/2003 6:31:33 AM PDT by thinden
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To: thinden
Thank you so much for the heads up to hotspot's post! Hugs!
36 posted on 07/30/2003 9:09:52 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: thinden; hotshot
From a former free republic thread....

"Clinton noted that the (USS Cole) dead included Electronics Technician 1st Class Richard Costelow, of Morrisville, Pa., who had worked with him in the White House, helping to update its communications system."

The White House Communications Office was deeply infiltrated by Navy Intelligence. They filmed and/or recorded everything that went on in the White House. It is this office that makes all the official video documentaries that are made in the White House. It is their videos that we watched when we saw the White House coffees where Johnnie Chung and others were either giving or pledging money for favors.

What is not as well known about the White House Communications Office is that they covertly 'bugged' the Oval Office and kept records of ALL of Bill's female companions.

It is quite a coincidence that one of the sailors who died on the USS Cole had worked "with" Clinton, (by his own word). If he ws updating communication equipment, he probably was attached to the White House Communications Office

37 posted on 08/01/2003 3:39:26 AM PDT by rubbertramp
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To: tomball
Anyone interested in FBI dirty laundry would enjoy the book "The Bureau" (Ron Kessler).
38 posted on 08/01/2003 3:53:45 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: aristeides
Bingo!
39 posted on 08/01/2003 4:34:17 AM PDT by Buckwheats
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To: Ed_in_NJ
Kessler's a bit of a leftie

regardless, the agency's incompidence and corruption has become the elephant in the room no one admits to seeing

a new clean agency should be started from scratch and this broken animal should be put down in a time when we need compidence, trust, integrity and honesty .... none of which is imbued in the current federal street gang

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40 posted on 08/01/2003 4:45:01 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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