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"Sexually Inclusive Christians" Celebrate Victories, Push for More
Institute on Religion and Democracy ^ | Mark Tooley

Posted on 08/30/2003 5:48:16 PM PDT by xzins

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To: thoughtomator
Please explain the connection with Santorum... I missed it.
41 posted on 08/30/2003 6:37:20 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: MarMema
I think the worst thing about them is not so much what they do, but that they want everybody to think it's OK and not "disapprove". They want to make virtues out of vices, to call good "evil" and evil "good".

I know a lot of people (well, I used to know them) who drink excessively and fool around a lot, but they have the common decency to not flaunt it and parade it around as some virtue...They're what (comedian) Tim Wilson calls "Lynyrd Skynyrd Baptists".
42 posted on 08/30/2003 6:37:58 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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To: RochesterFan
Santorum spoke out in favor of sodomy laws and was lamblasted by the media. He said that if states cannot control that sexual behavior, then there's really NO case for them to control ANY sexual behavior.
43 posted on 08/30/2003 6:39:17 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: xzins
Kolodny, who is Jewish, explained that she could not conclude the session without discussing polyamory.

Az och und vay! (That's Yiddish for "in a pig's eye")

44 posted on 08/30/2003 6:40:44 PM PDT by Alouette (The bombing begins in five minutes.)
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To: Jorge
Spot on!

They will REFUSE to be bound by any morality.
45 posted on 08/30/2003 6:41:51 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: Alouette
LOL!
46 posted on 08/30/2003 6:42:53 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: Jorge
Help me with something Jorge. Given other comments, perhaps it'll help me understand your perspective better.

Are you libertarian? Or close to being so?
47 posted on 08/30/2003 6:44:53 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: xzins
“I am a strong ally of those in healthy, polyamorous relationships,” declared Debra Kolodny. She argued that having multiple sexual partners can be “holy.” Kolodyn was leading a workshop at the WOW (Witness Our Welcome) 2003 convention, an ecumenical gathering for “sexually and gender inclusive Christians.”

Gee, I guess she never read anything the Bible has to say about sexual relations apart from monogamous heterosexuality. Or maybe she has, finds it inconvenient, and has decided to define it away.

She argued that having multiple sexual partners can be “holy.”

Having multiple sexual partners can be "holey," but just because that sounds like "holy" doesn't make it so.
48 posted on 08/30/2003 6:45:32 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: xzins
This could be renamed, "Why I left the United Methodist Church and Became a Southern Baptist."

A word of Warning for any United Methodist sending their child to TCU… I grew up in a "conservative" United Methodist Church in Texas. So as a freshman at TCU I joined the Wesley Foundation on campus. WHAT A SURPRISE THAT WAS! The leadership brought gay and lesbian individuals in to "teach" us how our long held belief that homosexuality is sinful was not Biblical. I got out of that place fast! This was around the time the Southern Baptist were making waves at their conventions for taking stands on this very issue... I knew where I should transfer my membership! I've been very happy there ever since in the Southern Baptist Church.
49 posted on 08/30/2003 6:46:49 PM PDT by Oceanus
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To: Frumanchu
And if us premills are correct, the faithful could shortly be gone.

And if the amils are correct, the world as we know it could be gone in the not too distant future.
50 posted on 08/30/2003 6:46:51 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: RochesterFan
background on this story
51 posted on 08/30/2003 6:47:42 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Arafat must go!)
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To: xzins
the apostate church blends itself into the new age one world one religon goddess witchcraft muslim hebrew buddah all in one god faith.....
The one world religon of anti Christ...its in the book...no surprises...yet disgust
Jesus is near...for when you see these things come to pass know that the time of His coming is nearer..
And thats a good thing...
52 posted on 08/30/2003 6:48:11 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Oceanus
You will be pleased to know that I am a United Methodist Pastor, ordained elder.

But....I agree with you.
53 posted on 08/30/2003 6:48:17 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: wimpycat
"And monkeys can fly out of my butt."

Wow. I think that makes you eligible for Bishop.
54 posted on 08/30/2003 6:51:24 PM PDT by keats5 (We have no King but Jesus.)
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To: aruanan
The theology they teach says that "the Holy Spirit always does 'new things,' and is not stuck in the past, but is committed to liberation."

The Jesus Seminar is their friend because they get to cast away contradictory portions of scripture. They do not view scripture as their friend.

55 posted on 08/30/2003 6:51:32 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: xzins

56 posted on 08/30/2003 6:52:16 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Bringing you quality, non-unnecessarily-excerpted threads since 2002)
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To: xzins
If they think that gay is a natural God given state of being, then do they think Jesus was gay too? if HE was everything human, this would have to include gay too, no?

They should form a new faith and worhip a bisexual God. This I could accept. But, corrupting existing religions is SO much easier. Why start new when you can simply take over?
57 posted on 08/30/2003 6:52:50 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (If Hillary ever takes the oath of office, she will be the last President the US will ever have. -RR)
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To: joesnuffy
Lift up your head. Your redemption draweth nigh.
58 posted on 08/30/2003 6:53:26 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: xzins
Thanks for the info on Santorum. Sure seems to me that Article X of the Bill or Rights makes it an issue for the States - since it is not specifically mentioned in the Constitution.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

59 posted on 08/30/2003 6:53:26 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: wimpycat
She argued that having multiple sexual partners can be “holy.”

Ah, yes, but the word is not the thing.

60 posted on 08/30/2003 6:54:27 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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