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"Sexually Inclusive Christians" Celebrate Victories, Push for More
Institute on Religion and Democracy ^ | Mark Tooley

Posted on 08/30/2003 5:48:16 PM PDT by xzins

"Sexually Inclusive Christians" Celebrate Victories, Push for More

Mark Tooley August 22, 2003

When arguing for church acceptance of homosexuality, most advocates talk about monogamy. But others are bolder.

“I am a strong ally of those in healthy, polyamorous relationships,” declared Debra Kolodny. She argued that having multiple sexual partners can be “holy.” Kolodyn was leading a workshop at the WOW (Witness Our Welcome) 2003 convention, an ecumenical gathering for “sexually and gender inclusive Christians.”

Hundreds of homosexual, bisexual, and heterosexual people gathered under the “queer” banner in Philadelphia August 14-17 to urge religious acceptance of non-traditional sexual behaviors.

According to WOW’s schedule brochure, it was sponsored by the homosexual caucus groups in most mainline Protestant denominations and Dignity USA (for Roman Catholics). Other supporting groups listed in the program included People for the American Way, the Human Rights Campaign, McCormick Theological Seminary (Presbyterian), Episcopal Divinity School, Chicago Theological Seminary (United Church of Christ), and Wesley Theological Seminary (United Methodist).

According to the president of Wesley seminary, Wesley paid a fee for a table with promotional material at WOW 2003. But Wesley did not endorse or give financial support to WOW beyond this fee.

Kolodny, an author and former national coordinator for The National Bisexual Network, was leading a workshop called “Blessed Bi Spirit: Bisexual People of Faith.” Although focusing mostly on bisexuality, Kolodny, who is Jewish, explained that she could not conclude the session without discussing polyamory.

“There can be fidelity in threesomes,” Kolodny said. “It can be just as sanctified as anything else if all parties are agreed.” But she was careful to stress that polyamory is unacceptable “if there is deceit.”

Kolodny said polyamory does not usually involve simultaneous group sex. But there are exceptions, she admitted, as she recalled a friend of hers who shares a bed with his wife and male partner. When asked by a workshop participant how polyamory was different from “recreational sex,” Kolodny responded that consensual recreational sex could be a part of polyamory. But polyamory usually involves some level of commitment and intimacy.

Noting she herself had never been polyamorous, Kolodny explained that as a busy attorney she simply did not have time to conduct the complicated “negotiations” necessary for “holy” polyamory. But she expressed admiration for persons with the time to organize.

Most of Kolodny’s talk was about bisexuality, not polyamory. “I disagree with the queer movement [when it claims] that sexual orientation is predetermined,” Kolodny said, asserting that the existence of bisexuality “challenges all that.”

“I know a lot of women who chose to become lesbian,” Kolodny said. “Love between two people is always beautiful,” she added, and should be regarded as part of free choice.

“I’m not sure we can make the case for genetic predetermination,” Kolodny stressed, saying sexual preference depends on opportunity, support, and spiritual experiences.

Kolodny lamented that the “queer” movement insists on the “party line” of genetic predetermination as part of a “political strategy.”

“The queer movement relies on, ‘We can’t help it. We’re born this way,’ Kolodny said. “It feels so safe. If you don’t say it you’re thrown to the lions and you’re evil.”

She contrasted the insistence on genetic predetermination with the teachings of Judaism and Christianity, which say: “God gives us choices.”

“Free will is essential to our humanity and essential to our being created in the image of God,” Kolodny said. She charged that denying free choice in sex preference was “perpetuating the hetero-patriarchy,” helping the “radical right,” ignoring bisexuality, and making it easier for “hate” to continue.

Rather than creating “absolute poles” of sexual preference, Kolodny said the world includes a wide spectrum of choices. She recalled the hostility of her “dyke” friends when she abandoned her strict lesbianism for bisexuality. Many homosexuals suspect bisexuals of trying to gain the “privileges” of the hetero-patriarchy by seeking sexual partners of the opposite gender.

Another workshop leader who addressed a sexual minority sometimes forgotten by the “queer” movement was the Rev. Erin Swenson, formerly Eric. Swenson is a Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) minister and family counselor whose sex change operation made Swenson the first post-operative transsexual minister in a major denomination.

Swenson was married with children. But after suffering for years from a desire to be a woman, Swenson finally divorced and had the operation. “I don’t recommend that any one become transgender,” Swenson said. “It’s a very painful process.”

“Some people accuse me of not being a woman,” Swenson complained, citing “ultra-feminists.” Swenson prefers being called simply “Erin and a child of God” to any label. “High heels are very uncomfortable,” Swenson playfully admitted.

“Transgender people won’t come to your church unless they truly know they are safe there,” Swenson warned. Even ostensibly “gay” friendly congregations are sometimes not prepared for transgender people. “Get your church to be trans friendly,” Swenson urged. One need is for bathrooms not marked male or female.

Swenson described the United Church of Christ as “miles ahead of anybody” in making itself open to transgender people. The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), in contrast, declined Swenson’s offer to volunteer in the creation of church resource materials for transgender church members.

“Transgendered people threaten communities because they threaten our assumptions,” Swenson concluded. “It is threatening but also freeing.”

Leading a workshop on “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Questioning Issues in the Roman Catholic Church,” Mary Louise Cervone complained that tolerance rather than justice” is the norm in America today. A former president of Dignity USA, Cervone, with her same-sex partner at her side, wondered how many “nameless men and women” must die before this country moves beyond tolerance to freedom for all people.

“Our best hope for change rests not with bishops and the pope but with Catholic people,” Cervone insisted. “Change won’t come form the top down. The Catholic people must demand freedom.

Cervone affirmed her lesbianism as a “gift of God.” She confessed she has a hard time attending the Catholic Church, because the “church is not where we find freedom. It’s where we go to hide.”

“But you can’t kick me out,” Cervone declared defiantly. “Where in religion did we get the idea that some people are more worthy than others?” she wondered.

The Rev. Jorge Lockwood, who is Global Praise Coordinator for the United Methodist Church’s Board of Global Ministries, led a workshop called “Redeeming Our Bodies, Congregational Song as a Path of Liberation.”

“As queer people, we have another way of looking at the body,” Lockwood said. He complained that churches too often are uncomfortable with the human body and suffer from “liturgical constipation.” He observed that too often people think the “desire of a 25 year old gay man for another 25 year old man is a beautiful thing,” but the desire of a 65 year old for a 25 year is “dirty.”

“We have all learned to challenge Romans,” said the Rev. Mari Castellanos, referring to St. Paul’s letter that, among other Scriptures, is critical of homosexual behavior. Castellanos leads the Justice and Witness Ministries of the United Church of Christ. “We must do likewise with all texts that go against our brothers and sisters that are being claimed as the unerring Word of God.”

But Castellanos also urged the WOW 2003 audience to embrace “justice” issues beyond their own. “When we leave this earth, queer bishops won’t matter as much as whether the hungry are fed,” she insisted, to applause.

“This president and this Congress have systematically torn down the social net that sustained all of us,” Castellanos mourned. “We must lobby our government on behalf of the poor of the world. Our experience of exile has taught us compassion.”

Castellanos promised that “we will take on scary proposals such as the Marriage Protection Act. We will turn the tide that threatens to obliterate the social contract.” Echoing the name of a radical homosexual group, she insisted: “We must continue to act-up!”

Rev. Yvette Flunder, a United Church of Christ pastor from San Francisco, celebrated a string of political victories for pro-homosexuality advocates, including the election of an Episcopal Church homosexual bishop, the arrival of legalized same-sex unions in Canada, and the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling against anti-sodomy laws.

“The Holy Ghost can break loose in an atmosphere of injustice and give us more justice in three weeks than many years!” Flunder enthused. “These wouldn’t have been miracles under Bill Clinton!” she exclaimed, citing the irony of pro-homosexuality strides under a conservative government.

The Rev. Troy Perry, founder of the predominantly homosexual Metropolitan Community Churches, asked all the heterosexuals at WOW 2003 to stand and receive applause. “Thank you!!... I know what people do to you,” he told them, saying they pay a price for solidarity with homosexuals.

Perry said he “just got married” to his male partner of 18 years, who has had AIDS for several years. He likened the plight of homosexuals who cannot legally marry to slaves who also had no legal right to marriage.

“I will not give up until every one of us can marry,” Perry insisted, comparing Heaven to attending the WOW 2003 conference.

A brief skit produced for the WOW 2003 audience showed three troubled disciples in a storm-tossed boat. One, a young woman, declares: “I am bisexual and can’t find acceptance in the gay community.” A man says, “I am a 19 year old gay. Or am I queer? And I’m Presbyterian. But I’m not sure what that means!” A third person complains she is age 22 but cannot “find a voice” in the gay community.

Then a figure representing Jesus appears, played by a young woman wrapped in the rainbow flag, which is the emblem of the homosexual movement. “Take heart, it is I,” she says. “Do not be afraid.”


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To: thoughtomator
Please explain the connection with Santorum... I missed it.
41 posted on 08/30/2003 6:37:20 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: MarMema
I think the worst thing about them is not so much what they do, but that they want everybody to think it's OK and not "disapprove". They want to make virtues out of vices, to call good "evil" and evil "good".

I know a lot of people (well, I used to know them) who drink excessively and fool around a lot, but they have the common decency to not flaunt it and parade it around as some virtue...They're what (comedian) Tim Wilson calls "Lynyrd Skynyrd Baptists".
42 posted on 08/30/2003 6:37:58 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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To: RochesterFan
Santorum spoke out in favor of sodomy laws and was lamblasted by the media. He said that if states cannot control that sexual behavior, then there's really NO case for them to control ANY sexual behavior.
43 posted on 08/30/2003 6:39:17 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: xzins
Kolodny, who is Jewish, explained that she could not conclude the session without discussing polyamory.

Az och und vay! (That's Yiddish for "in a pig's eye")

44 posted on 08/30/2003 6:40:44 PM PDT by Alouette (The bombing begins in five minutes.)
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To: Jorge
Spot on!

They will REFUSE to be bound by any morality.
45 posted on 08/30/2003 6:41:51 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: Alouette
LOL!
46 posted on 08/30/2003 6:42:53 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: Jorge
Help me with something Jorge. Given other comments, perhaps it'll help me understand your perspective better.

Are you libertarian? Or close to being so?
47 posted on 08/30/2003 6:44:53 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: xzins
“I am a strong ally of those in healthy, polyamorous relationships,” declared Debra Kolodny. She argued that having multiple sexual partners can be “holy.” Kolodyn was leading a workshop at the WOW (Witness Our Welcome) 2003 convention, an ecumenical gathering for “sexually and gender inclusive Christians.”

Gee, I guess she never read anything the Bible has to say about sexual relations apart from monogamous heterosexuality. Or maybe she has, finds it inconvenient, and has decided to define it away.

She argued that having multiple sexual partners can be “holy.”

Having multiple sexual partners can be "holey," but just because that sounds like "holy" doesn't make it so.
48 posted on 08/30/2003 6:45:32 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: xzins
This could be renamed, "Why I left the United Methodist Church and Became a Southern Baptist."

A word of Warning for any United Methodist sending their child to TCU… I grew up in a "conservative" United Methodist Church in Texas. So as a freshman at TCU I joined the Wesley Foundation on campus. WHAT A SURPRISE THAT WAS! The leadership brought gay and lesbian individuals in to "teach" us how our long held belief that homosexuality is sinful was not Biblical. I got out of that place fast! This was around the time the Southern Baptist were making waves at their conventions for taking stands on this very issue... I knew where I should transfer my membership! I've been very happy there ever since in the Southern Baptist Church.
49 posted on 08/30/2003 6:46:49 PM PDT by Oceanus
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To: Frumanchu
And if us premills are correct, the faithful could shortly be gone.

And if the amils are correct, the world as we know it could be gone in the not too distant future.
50 posted on 08/30/2003 6:46:51 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: RochesterFan
background on this story
51 posted on 08/30/2003 6:47:42 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Arafat must go!)
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To: xzins
the apostate church blends itself into the new age one world one religon goddess witchcraft muslim hebrew buddah all in one god faith.....
The one world religon of anti Christ...its in the book...no surprises...yet disgust
Jesus is near...for when you see these things come to pass know that the time of His coming is nearer..
And thats a good thing...
52 posted on 08/30/2003 6:48:11 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Oceanus
You will be pleased to know that I am a United Methodist Pastor, ordained elder.

But....I agree with you.
53 posted on 08/30/2003 6:48:17 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: wimpycat
"And monkeys can fly out of my butt."

Wow. I think that makes you eligible for Bishop.
54 posted on 08/30/2003 6:51:24 PM PDT by keats5 (We have no King but Jesus.)
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To: aruanan
The theology they teach says that "the Holy Spirit always does 'new things,' and is not stuck in the past, but is committed to liberation."

The Jesus Seminar is their friend because they get to cast away contradictory portions of scripture. They do not view scripture as their friend.

55 posted on 08/30/2003 6:51:32 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: xzins

56 posted on 08/30/2003 6:52:16 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Bringing you quality, non-unnecessarily-excerpted threads since 2002)
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To: xzins
If they think that gay is a natural God given state of being, then do they think Jesus was gay too? if HE was everything human, this would have to include gay too, no?

They should form a new faith and worhip a bisexual God. This I could accept. But, corrupting existing religions is SO much easier. Why start new when you can simply take over?
57 posted on 08/30/2003 6:52:50 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (If Hillary ever takes the oath of office, she will be the last President the US will ever have. -RR)
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To: joesnuffy
Lift up your head. Your redemption draweth nigh.
58 posted on 08/30/2003 6:53:26 PM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: xzins
Thanks for the info on Santorum. Sure seems to me that Article X of the Bill or Rights makes it an issue for the States - since it is not specifically mentioned in the Constitution.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

59 posted on 08/30/2003 6:53:26 PM PDT by RochesterFan
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To: wimpycat
She argued that having multiple sexual partners can be “holy.”

Ah, yes, but the word is not the thing.

60 posted on 08/30/2003 6:54:27 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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