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Texas Redistricting - Senate [PASSES!] new redistricting !!!
The Dallas Morning News | October 12, 2003 | The Dallas Morning News Staff

Posted on 10/12/2003 3:38:54 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP

Texas Redistricting - Senate set to vote and pass new map

Excerpt from THIS THREAD:

AUSTIN - The Texas House approved a sweeping government reorganization measure Sunday, acquiescing to Senate terms for giving final approval to a congressional redistricting map.

The House approved the measure by a 79-35 vote, then adjourned the third special session.

Final passage of the Republican-backed redistricting map now rests with the Senate.

Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst previously said the Senate would not approve the map until the House passed the unrelated bill intended to reorganize state government.

"I'm personally ready to call their bluff in the Senate," said Rep. Terry Keel, R-Austin, arguing against the government reorganization bill.

The Senate was scheduled to convene at 6 p.m.

Dewhurst said senators can only vote on redistricting Sunday, not filibuster, because he has closed down debate.

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Senate signs off on redistricting map

Six months and three special sessions later, plan sits on Perry's desk

10:16 PM CDT on Sunday, October 12, 2003

By ROBERT T. GARRETT / The Dallas Morning News

AUSTIN – The Senate on Sunday capped six months of political warfare, approving a congressional redistricting map drawn to increase Republican representation in Washington.

Senators adjourned the year's third special session about 7:30 p.m. after sending the congressional redistricting bill to Gov. Rick Perry by a mostly party-line vote, 17-14.

The new congressional districts are designed to favor the GOP in four to seven districts that Democrats now hold, swinging the balance of power. Democrats control 17 of the state's 32 seats in the U.S. House.

All 12 Democratic senators voted against the plan. They were joined by dissenting Republicans Troy Fraser of Horseshoe Bay and Bill Ratliff of Mount Pleasant.

"The northern half of my current district becomes dominated by suburban D-FW," Mr. Ratliff said. "My constituents didn't want to do redistricting. I didn't want to do redistricting."

The bruising battle left Democrats smoldering with resentment.

"It's ... a sad day because it was just a clear, blatant abuse of power intended to build the Republican Party at the expense of Democrats and more specifically, the white incumbent, the Anglo incumbent, and the minorities whom they represent," said Sen. Judith Zaffirini, D-Laredo.

And, alluding to Democrats' next move, Sen. John Whitmire, D-Houston, said, "Before the sun sets tomorrow, someone will probably be in a court."

GOP bickering

The often-contentious debate also deepened differences between Republican leaders, with sniping between Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst and House Speaker Tom Craddick of Midland.

The two men ended the session disputing each other's accounts of whether, on Friday morning, they had agreed on the sequence in which the Legislature would vote on redistricting and an unrelated state government reorganization bill.

Mr. Dewhurst said he told the speaker the reorganization, which would strip powers from GOP Comptroller Carole Keeton Strayhorn, was important to a number of senators whose votes were key to passing the new congressional map. Mr. Dewhurst said Mr. Craddick agreed the House would pass redistricting and government reorganization, but the House later appeared to be reneging on the anti-Strayhorn measure.

"We did not have a deal on redistricting," Mr. Craddick shot back. "That's crazy. ... That didn't happen."

The squabbling was academic. The House on Sunday afternoon passed the bill stripping Mrs. Strayhorn's office of power to audit schools and state agencies. GOP senators who had held the redistricting bill hostage, because they wanted Mrs. Strayhorn punished for criticisms of the Legislature, agreed to proceed to a final vote on redistricting.

All through the third special session, Republicans in the two chambers were at odds. Differences were resolved when U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land, arrived in Austin last week to mediate.

Mr. DeLay had earlier lobbied the Republican leadership to redraw congressional lines crafted by the federal court after the Legislature could not agree in 2001.

Democrats have denounced the resulting map as racist, while Republicans have said it was necessary to undo past gerrymandering and to better reflect the state's tilt toward the GOP, which controls all top state offices.

Redistricting gained momentum this year after Republicans claimed a majority of the state House and Senate.

House Democrats blocked it during the regular session, fleeing in May to Oklahoma and denying the chamber a quorum to do business.

In late June, Mr. Perry summoned lawmakers back to Austin to work on redistricting, but Senate rules required that two-thirds of the chambers' members approve any measure before it could come to the floor for a vote.

A second special session also ended in failure after 11 Democratic senators, upset that the two-thirds rule had been subsequently jettisoned, holed up in New Mexico for 45 days. That denied the Senate a quorum, broken Sept. 2 when Mr. Whitmire left the Democrats and returned to Texas.

Mr. Perry called a third special session, highlighted by wrangling within the GOP over West Texas and Mr. Craddick's demand for a district anchored in his hometown of Midland.

Effect on primary

While Mr. DeLay's mediation provided a comprise, it likely will mean that the state's primary will be a week later than planned, on March 9. The extra time will be needed for U.S. Justice Department and federal court review of the plan.

If the new district map, which the House passed Friday, gains necessary approval, it will eliminate one of the last vestiges of the era, from the 1870s to the 1970s, when Democrats ruled Texas' political roost.

The map was changed in the third special session's waning days to reflect an aggressive Republican strategy to go after white Democratic incumbents. Democrats claimed the tactic violates the federal Voting Rights Act, weakening minorities' ability to elect representative members to Congress.

"As soon as the governor signs it, the ball is in our hands," said Sen. Royce West, D-Dallas, vowing the Democrats will challenge the new map in court.

Republicans rejected such reasoning. They said their plan would elect one more Hispanic member to Congress and one more black member, in addition to the seven Hispanics and two blacks now representing Texas.

The redistricting battle has kept the Legislature in session for more days this year than in any previous year. Both Democrats and some Republicans have warned it could leave a lingering residue of partisan ill will after a decade of vaunted bipartisanship.

Mr. Perry and Mr. Dewhurst have predicted tempers will cool and cooperation will return when lawmakers tackle reform of school finance and the state's tax structure in coming months.

But Sen. Mario Gallegos, D-Houston, said Democratic lawmakers won't soon forget how their colleagues tried to fine them each $57,000 for their New Mexico trip and bulldozed the map through to passage.

"The emotions are high," Mr. Gallegos said. "I'd be lying to you if I told you it isn't going to spill over into school finance. That's another emotional issue."

Staff writer George Kuempel in Austin contributed to this report.


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201 posted on 10/13/2003 1:41:55 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!:
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To: deport
17 - 14...... Means two Republican Senators voted No..... Probably Ratliff and I don't know who the other would be. I think there were originally 3 or 4 objecting until they got the differences worked out with the House and the House passed the Reorganizational matters....

They ran they delayed but in the end they voted and lost

From my update from The Dallas Morning News in post #201:

All 12 Democratic senators voted against the plan. They were joined by dissenting Republicans Troy Fraser of Horseshoe Bay and Bill Ratliff of Mount Pleasant.

Simple GOP majority rules the day. It's a great day for Texas !!

Now then, two questions:

1) What things (if anything) can be done to expedite the process for getting the new map approved by the necessary powers that be (courts, etc.) ??

2) What are the chances that this new map will be in place in time to be implemented for election 2004 ??

I just KNOW the 'RATS are going to do everything in their power to delay this for 2004 ...

202 posted on 10/13/2003 1:54:32 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!:
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To: Jim Robinson
Yeah ! Thanks. Probably FIVE extra GOP seats added now. That's a net ten swing !

203 posted on 10/13/2003 1:58:52 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!:
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To: Bigun
Yep ! Passed redistricting on Columbus Day !

204 posted on 10/13/2003 2:09:30 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!:
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To: onyx; CindyDawg
Re #131-32:
Catching up to my comments on this thread. It's a great day for Texas and for the country !

205 posted on 10/13/2003 2:20:57 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!:
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To: potlatch
Well, according to Google Search ...

He is GOP:

Official web site for libertarian congressman Ron Paul (R - TX).

206 posted on 10/13/2003 3:13:37 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!:
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To: Theodore R.
He has supposedly said that he was pubbie 51% of the time. On another thread, showing voting records, he is the most liberal pubbie.
207 posted on 10/13/2003 3:34:41 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: deport
Fraser and Ratliff rocking the boat. I WILL try to remember these two ! Thanks ...

208 posted on 10/13/2003 3:38:58 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!:
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To: RightOnline
Nope. Your neck of the woods, actually.

Nope. I know where he lives NOW, we have lunch sometimes, but the fact remains he is a lawyer from California. He's is really a fine fellow, but don't tell him.......

209 posted on 10/13/2003 4:12:56 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; RightOnline; Dog Gone
the fact remains he is a lawyer

Which is the only reason he has found ways to avoid paying up on the beer debt (1,247 and counting)

I am willing to work as a collection agent for 20%.

210 posted on 10/13/2003 4:50:47 AM PDT by Flyer (Visit the Houston Chapter - * (when it works)
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To: lonestar; chuckles
Mr. Owned by Walter Humphries and the Trial Lawyers Turner will soon be scratching his unemployed A$$ to which I say GOOD RIDDANCE!
211 posted on 10/13/2003 5:17:32 AM PDT by Bigun (IRSsucks@getridof
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To: MeeknMing
I will remember them too.

So we have won the battle but the war in the courts will go on.

Great News, so far.

Now i have to wonder if the runaway rats will send Willy Nelson his whiskey back, no i reckon they are drinking it for breakfast this am to drive the pain away.

Congrats to Texans and Republicans.

*** Fingers crossed for favorable court rulings.***

212 posted on 10/13/2003 5:35:00 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: MissAmericanPie
I believe they effectively made Frost's district such that he is toast ...

213 posted on 10/13/2003 6:25:43 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!:
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
"I hope we can now pick up those 4 or 5 extra Congressmen."

I hope so too, and I also pray that the new guys will be people who have NEVER served in a government dominated by Dimocrats, so we can rid our party of its' overwhelming minority mentality.
That minority mentality seems to render our "leaders" incapable of functioning whenever a Dimocrat opposes them.

214 posted on 10/13/2003 6:29:36 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: No Blue States
*** Fingers crossed for favorable court rulings.***

Article IV
Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Amendment XIV
Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.

As near as I can tell, Texas doesn't need a federal court's permission for anything. It is about time that Americans started forcing the Federal Judiciary to live within the Constitution. Folks in black robes are scarier than folks in white sheets. A lot of these rogue black robes need to be stripped and then jailed.
215 posted on 10/13/2003 6:30:49 AM PDT by Reagan Renaissance
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To: Theodore R.
"Because Paul is independent and not easily controlled by the national party..."

Ron Paul is "independent" in the same sense that a loose cannon rolling about the deck in heavy seas, smashing anything it runs into, is said to be "independent."

Maybe the best description of him is just a"loose cannon!"

216 posted on 10/13/2003 6:35:08 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Bigun
Mr. Owned by Walter Humphries and the Trial Lawyers Turner will soon be scratching his unemployed A$$ to which I say GOOD RIDDANCE!

Mr. Blue Dog who votes with Sheila Jackson-Lee 90% of the time, Turner?

Bye-bye Yellow-Dog Blue Dog.

219 posted on 10/13/2003 7:19:20 AM PDT by lonestar (Don't mess with Teexas)
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To: Redbob
My gosh, the man is a pediatrician by profession. Has he been sued for being a "loose cannon" while delivering babies? I don't know, maybe he has. Anyone today would be a "loose cannon" if he strictly adhered to the Constituiton of the United States.
220 posted on 10/13/2003 7:23:14 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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