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"Paging Hal Lindsey, Hal Lindsey, paging Hal Lindsey..."
There is a lot of interpretation of these things, and as there are 2 billion nominal Christians, there are at least as many opinions on that. If I lived in Israel I would be somewhat fatalistic about the ultimate outcome judging from history in the region and first Saddam and now Iran saying they intend to burn the place. Beyond that, who knows?
Call it a hunch, but i don't think God is going to break out a calculator and DAMN the third who don't divide evenly... just a hunch...
Isaiah 45:17 (KJV)
But Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.
Isaiah 45:25 (KJV)
In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.
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This is the best I could find in a moment's notice: http://www.thetrumpet.com/geo/na/docs/issues/200412/37.asp
I know of no true Christian that wishes hell for anyone.
Mike, the Christian understanding amongst those who take the Bible seriously is that Christ will not return to the earth until Israel asks him to, with all that implies.
rapture aside, as far as the remnant goes (those jews not killed in the different judgements; the fact that they are jews not really mattering, seeing as how only 1/2 or 1/4 of the world is prophecied to die) its the same as the rest of humanity, accept christ or dont, there is no middle ground.those who do will enjoy eternity with the Lord, those who dont are separated and hurled into the pit.
thats just the basics i know of, correct me where im wrong
Try levitt.com
Some of us even believe that we are not meant to understand or know the prophesies. We don't care about rebuilding the temple.
On the other hand. We believe every word in the Old Testament is true. We believe that the Jews are the chosen people of God and that God will bless nations that aid Israel. Christian children are raised on Old Testament stories. I didn't learn that I wasn't a Jew until I started to public school.
Jews have a legitimate reason to fear us evangelicals because we are commanded to take the teachings of Christ to all people, including Jews, but we could never even think of interfering in their religious practices or doing them any harm.
I'm not religious, but I'm on Israel's side because our national interests coincide almost perfectly since 9\11. Also, if we're going to promote democracy in the Middle East, it makes sense to support the only democracy in the Middle East.
Jews are God's people, and so are Christians. At the end of time, I think ( and hope ) He will slap you on the back, and say "well done." I don't think minor theological difference matter much to a being so vastly higher than ourselves.
The entire rapture idea has been around for less than 200 years - it was invented by a Scottish pastor in the early 1800's who was excommunicated for heresy. He wrote the study notes to the Scofield Bible, which became quite popular in America and that Bible spread the idea in the US. Europeans have largely never heard of it and the rest of the world ignores it even more deeply. It's really just an American nutcase kind of thing.
If it were not for the Left Behind novels (which are about as well-researched as Dan Brown's The DA Vinci Code, which is to say, they aren't, the rapture concept would be pretty well unknown in this country too. Ignore the rapture - it's just a bunch of well-meaning ignorant people taking Scripture verses out of context.
B) Paul's letter to the Romans insists that Gentile Christians are only saved because we are grafted onto the source of salvation, Jewish Christians (Romans 11). Christ Himself testified that salvation is from the Jews (John 4:22). Christianity is the completion of Judaism, and Judaism is the source of Christianity.
C) Catholics know "The glorious Messiah's coming is suspended at every moment of history until his recognition by "all Israel", for "a hardening has come upon part of Israel" in their "unbelief" toward Jesus" (#674 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church). The full inclusion of the Jews in the Messiah's salvation is necessary for the Second Coming.
I believe that the Jewish people are...exempt if you will because they are the chosen people. Besides, the rapture is not about killing the non-believers, it's about bringing the true believers to God.
I have a different perspective on this.
One of my parents was Jewish, the other Christian.
The fact that my father married a "shikse" caused the Jewish side of the family to disown my father.
The fact that my mother married a Jew drove the Christian side of the family into an equal panic.
What they overlooked, was that there was an innocent child involved.
I will be waiting for all of them in Hell, because MY God has promised me they will all go there - every one of them, for their arrogance and intolerance and religious self-righteousness.
There, they will have *me* to contend with.
Deal with it.
Here are the relevant verses ...
And it shall come to pass, [that] in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off [and] die; but the third shall be left therein. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It [is] my people: and they shall say, The LORD [is] my God.
ZECHARIAH 13:8-9
...I suspect they will have faith in Jesus Christ as the Son of God, and Messiah.
The bottom line on why Christianity is true, is that the Bible says what happens thousands of years before it happens. Please see http://www.yfiles.com/y3nf.html