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A Philosopher, a Mystic, and a Theologian Sound an Alarm for the Church
L'espresso ^ | February 7, 2005 | Sandro Magister

Posted on 02/08/2005 12:26:19 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: jrny; sinkspur

The book has nothing to do with the SSPX and does not justify the views of their adherents on this forum.

It is a very good methodological and systematic Thomistic theological application to Vatican II and its aftermath.


21 posted on 02/08/2005 12:47:50 PM PST by Mershon
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To: Mershon

Whether or not it justifies the SSPX is irrelevant. Let's talk about the merits of these men and their writings. The fact is, though, this book is another weapon in the traditional arsenal to fight the modernists, and for that reason alone, we all have much to be thankful.


22 posted on 02/08/2005 12:59:05 PM PST by jrny (Tenete traditionem quam tradidi vobis)
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To: jrny

Well, since very few here have actually read it...

I have read most of it and it is a stunning and excellent refutation of most of the post-Vatican II nonsense.


23 posted on 02/08/2005 1:04:18 PM PST by Mershon
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To: jrny

You do realize that the modernist response to anything that actually calls for an honest debate about the state of the Church is going to be a 'trad' bash. Propagandists have been doing this for ages.

Dialogue is a smokescreen. LeFebvre had the dialogue with the deaf for 20 years. He was just the first in line. Eventually anyone who actually points out the reality of the Church situation will be marginalized by the mod squad.
Dialogue is a diversion. There is no such thing as "dialogue" when it comes to truth.

One of the interesting tactics I noticed last week was the "scorched earth" tactics. The more you actually prove that they don't know what they are talking about and the more you post that proves them wrong and sheds light on their fabrications and exaggerations, the more shrill they get.

Eventually they will throw everything including the Kitchen Sink at you in the hopes of getting the thread pulled for being a "flame war". Best not to leave anything that might contain truth in it.


24 posted on 02/08/2005 2:18:23 PM PST by Gerard.P (If you've lost your faith, you don't know you've lost it. ---Fr. Malachi Martin R.I.P.)
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To: sinkspur

Who died and made you pope?


25 posted on 02/08/2005 2:40:01 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

You're still mad, aren't you?


26 posted on 02/08/2005 2:49:27 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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mad about what? I just wonder why you act like the infallible arbiter of all things Catholic.


27 posted on 02/08/2005 4:16:44 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

You have me mixed up with someone else.


28 posted on 02/08/2005 4:31:55 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: sinkspur

Not unless someone else made post #15. Why don't you spend time doing something productive instead of judging everyone and acting as the absolute authority of Catholicsm.


29 posted on 02/08/2005 4:42:58 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Still grouchy. I'll give my opinion and you give yours.

OK?

30 posted on 02/08/2005 4:44:41 PM PST by sinkspur ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")
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To: AlbionGirl
I appreciate the ping. I just got home from working a thirteen hour shift and my brain has shut down(so what else is new) and I will read the essay again in the AM.

You are right, befogging is an excellent description of the watering down and weakening of the faith.
31 posted on 02/08/2005 7:20:38 PM PST by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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To: nickcarraway

A very interesting report. And, from this month's "Atlantic", here is a kind of parallel citation (from a very interesting article on Vladimir Putin): "According to the memoirs of the KGB officer Filipp Bobkov, during Putin's time in the KGB there was a wide-ranging internal discussion 'about how destructive the nihilist attitude toward religion was for the country.'"


32 posted on 02/08/2005 8:54:26 PM PST by Theophane
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To: Mershon; jrny
I think "Iota Unam" is a fasccinating,informative book and should be in the library of every serious Catholic. I originally bought one copy,read it,and knew I wanted several of my friends to read it,so bought two more copies to lend out. I wanted to have my own copy in my possession at all times.

Unfortunately another person was going on vacation and asked if he could "please,please" borrow my only copy,responding like any good mother to the word "please", I lent it to him. One year has passed and he still is reading it,slow reader,I guess. In fact,my friends must all be slow readers because no one has returned the book yet. I guess I'll get on my broom and hunt them down. Glad this came up and I remembered that my books are missing.

I wonder if his (Amerio) second book <"Stat Veritas" translated and published in the U.S.,does anyone know? If so ,where can I get it?Thanks.

34 posted on 02/08/2005 10:39:45 PM PST by saradippity
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