1 posted on
10/15/2005 6:20:37 AM PDT by
Gamecock
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2 posted on
10/15/2005 6:23:37 AM PDT by
Gamecock
(Crystal meth is not a fruit of the Spirit.)
To: Gamecock
Nice read. Our pastor was just preaching on this very thing. He asked the congregation to show him where Christ says anything about self esteem.
My brother who is a pastor calls these churches "the feel good ministries" or "the name it and claim it crew".
We are to be humble for Christ.
3 posted on
10/15/2005 6:31:51 AM PDT by
svcw
To: Gamecock
So true, thank you for posting this.
4 posted on
10/15/2005 6:37:36 AM PDT by
walden
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Danish philosopher Soren Kierkegaard pointed out that a man who is remote from his own guilt and failure is also remote from God, because he is remote from himself.Or the one who is painfully aware is closer to God.
Thank goodness for the Holy Spirit who leads all that are willing into the the Truth and to the great grace of our heavenly "Abba " Father
Wonderful article, thanks
5 posted on
10/15/2005 6:42:05 AM PDT by
apackof2
(There's two theories to arguin' with a woman. Neither one works. Will Rogers)
To: Gamecock
To: Gamecock
9 posted on
10/15/2005 9:45:12 AM PDT by
Kevin OMalley
(No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
To: Gamecock
We are living in a society permeated with the concept of self-esteem. The gurus of humanistic psychology have convinced us that feeling good about ourselves is one of our basic felt needs. A positive self-image has become the sine qua non of human growth and success. Many evangelical churches, including many who find their roots in the Reformation, have attempted to Christianize such thought. If that is "seeker sensitivity" then I am against it. Any Church which tells sinners that they ought to feel good about themselves is doing those sinners no good.
On the other hand, if by "seeker sensitivity" you mean that a Church goes out of its way to bring people to a place where they can be confronted by their sin, where they can be presented with a well preached gospel message and where they can be given the opportunity to respond to the gospel and exercise saving faith in Christ and where they can grow spiritually through the teaching of the whole counsel of God, then I'm all for it.
I think that one of the problems in the critique of "seeker sensitive" churches is that authors such as the one above do not clarify what the term means. They just lump all churches that might be viewed as having an open door to those who are not yet saved as being "seeker sensitive" and then slander those churches by claiming that they do not preach the gospel.
Well I dare say that if a lot of those who are critical of "seeker sensitive" churches were to think back, they'd realize that they came to Christ when they did because someone had been sensitive to their condition and went out of their way to be sensitive to their spiritual quest and to point them in the right direction and to bring them to the place where they had to confront the risen Lord.
Carry on.
To: Gamecock
Seeker-Sensitivity / Church Growth Movement is the new Liberalism.
Just wait and see.
To: Gamecock
This describes Willow Creek and Rick Warren. I think the "Purpose-Driven" movement is one of the worst things to happen to the church in a long time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18 posted on
10/15/2005 2:24:20 PM PDT by
LiteKeeper
(Beware the secularization of America)
To: Gamecock
The secular humanists of the West laid this self-esteem/positive self-image crap on Eastern philosophies and spiritual traditions too where it has no true basis. It should be no surprise that "New-Agism" has been found to be a deep infection in Western religions.
20 posted on
10/15/2005 2:50:03 PM PDT by
TigersEye
(I made my Covenant with God and God will keep or break it. The State can go to hell!)
To: Gamecock
23 posted on
10/15/2005 6:48:17 PM PDT by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: Gamecock
So we shouldn't look to this man as we would our early church leaders?
31 posted on
10/17/2005 7:07:11 AM PDT by
sheltonmac
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