Posted on 08/12/2006 10:16:49 AM PDT by Blake#1
You can state that all you want, but you don't have your facts straight either about what has been going on in the Church in China. I will agree with you on one point, slightly. It is up to the Pope to approve of Bishops in the Catholic Church. Canon Law #377 "The Supreme Pontiff freely appoints bishops or confirms those lawfully elected."
Besides the obvious in Canon law, the state sponsored church in China is notorious for the government appointing Bishops that support Communism. The Pope doesn't want this to occur.
LOL! You are proving my point! This is exactly what the Church is trying to avoid! Communist infiltration into the Church.
"Communist infiltration into the Church."
They maybe trying to prevent it, but it happened. Get it?
So? The United States tries to keep terrorists out of our country, but they still sneak in don't they?
You're from California. How is it that the Anglican Church is a nationalist church in California?
You came off like it didn't happen. Just like women who are Catholics don't use birth control; just like bishops who are celibate don't have sex with male minors; just like bishops who are communists.
they just somehow sneaked in by appointment by the pope
HUH?? Any more insults you want to throw at the Church while you're at it? I never came off like that, you seem to be angry because I don't lie down and accept Marajade's proclamations about what the Church is all about. I want you to prove to me, Marajade, that any Pope, with foreknowledge that someone was a Communist, ordained them as a Bishop. You can't because the Church doesn't knowingly ordain Communists.
If you were a Communist and you wanted to infiltrate the Church knowing that they wouldn't ordain you if they knew you were a Communist would you shout out to the Pope, "I'M A COMMUNIST! ORDAIN ME!" That's exactly how the Communist operate, right Marajade? All out in the open so that they can be readily detected, ROFLOL!
I guess the Pope who made the appointments never read Romans 1:8 since they are infallible and all
The state-recognized church was warned by the Vatican NOT to do it. But it went ahead with the ordinations without the consent and approval of Pope Benedict. They willfully committed the illicit ordination. They didn't "sneak" it past the Pope. They were "in your face". The Catholics that ARE in communion with the Pope are underground. They are the ones being tortured and persecuted. Do you understand the situation there?
I never insulted the Church in any of my posts. I have only ever posted truths with links to legit articles as backup to what I'm saying.
I understand the situation there. I'm just saying that bishops that were communists were appointed before. Maybe not currently in China today, but it has happened.
Ooops... I'm infallible I meant Romans 3:23
The origins of the Chruch of England, which we are part of, was Nationalistic. Just as this Church of China is nationalistic (and anti-homos) IMHO!
They're not recognized by Rome.
That's right, they're not. But some Catholic Bishops who were Communists have been in the past.
Which ones? Please name names.
click on my link in my post 40
Truths to what you are saying? No, I think it is more truths according to Marajade's interpretation of the Catholic Church, which isn't a truth at all. Pray tell, what did celibacy and the molestation of minors have to do with this thread? For all practical purposes, it appears you can't wait to take a swat at the Catholic Church at any opportunity. Tell me, Marajade, isn't it a fact that married non-Catholic ministers molest minors as well? Being celibate doesn't mean that it predisposes someone to molest a child. Molestation of children is more of a problem with ones sinful soul.
Next, you post an article from LifeSite News about some Communists who secretly infiltrated the Catholic Church and posit that it's some "fact" that the Church knowingly ordains Communists! It's kind of like Yellow Journalism, get it?
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