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To: vox_freedom; bornacatholic

VF: Get back to us AFTER the SSPX excommunicati have individually and collectively taken back each and every attack and slur on Pope John Paul the Great, upon the papacy itself, upon the Church and upon Jesus Christ's guarantees to His Church (hint: that is NOT SSPX). Also get back to us when the SSPX bishops have resigned their status since they are illicit, agreed to permanent cloister and done profound personal public penance for their evils while renuncing Marcel and the schism.


50 posted on 10/16/2006 5:13:57 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
VF: Get back to us AFTER the SSPX excommunicati have individually and collectively taken back each and every...

I'll "get back to you" when I have the inclination to do so, and not before. Then again, I might just send you the news when Pope Benedict announces that the Mass of Ages is authorized to be offered anytime, by any priest, without restrictions by Modernist American Bishops. He might also lift the so-called SSPX excoms, which I'm sure you and BC will be overjoyed to hear about given your obedience to all things from Rome and your daily prayers for peace and tranquility in matters pertaining to our faith.

56 posted on 10/16/2006 5:47:41 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: BlackElk
"SSPX leaders have consistently set conditions for their reconciliation with the Vatican"

Not being an expert on how to behave while excommunuicated, this seems just a little out of place. If Christ's Vicar on earth kicks you out for disobedience, I don't think you should be setting forth your demands for reconcilliation. Wasn't it Henry II who stood outside barefoot in the snow for like a month seeking forgivenes? The arrogance is astounding, but then again, they know better than the Church in all things.

I just hope they realize that Pope Benedict is simply adjusting a practice, not conforming the Church to their demands. The Church will not cater to their demands. The proaborts, prowomen priests, procontraception etc have already tried it.
64 posted on 10/16/2006 6:58:59 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: BlackElk
Trent condemned Vagus Priests who illegally and illicitly do precisely what the ssspx does- administer the Sacraments illicitly in the Jurisdiction of a legitimate Bishop.

Not only does Vatican Two not apply to them, Trent doesn't either. And so what if DURING THE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL Lefevbre himself debated in favor of the NO JURISDICTION, NO MINISTRY Traditional Axiom?

What Lefevbre himself did at Vatican Two no longer counted once he repudiated his public actions as a Bishop after the Ecumenical Council ended

Now that's a man one can trust and build a cult around.

Devils in Blue Jeans? Nah. Prots in Fiddlebacks

104 posted on 10/17/2006 11:46:48 AM PDT by bornacatholic
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