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1 posted on 02/02/2007 7:13:19 PM PST by Coleus
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Mary Magdalene was advised to sin no more.

Good advice...


2 posted on 02/02/2007 7:19:20 PM PST by Enosh
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3 posted on 02/02/2007 7:20:15 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says "lex injusta non obligat.")
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These people are seriously confused. Where to even begin ... ?

It's not surprising to find VOTF associated with this nonsense. They were never about the welfare of the victims, and always about remaking the Church according to their own preferences. But, really, you have to be pretty far "out there" to be disciplined by the Diocese of Rochester (NY). It's probably the most "liberal" (by which I mean "least orthodox") diocese in the country.

Meaning no disrespect to faithful Anglicans, one can find all these practices, attitudes, etc., there. Why not just go there?

4 posted on 02/02/2007 7:32:12 PM PST by neocon (Be not afraid!)
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Oh good Lord! What self absorbed twits! Why didn;t they just go over to TEC. They'd be right at home there!


5 posted on 02/02/2007 7:58:36 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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Its name means universal, and yet critics charge the Catholic Church is losing followers in the United States because it isn't inclusive enough.

"Universal" is meant as "the same everywhere," not "accepting all things." The writer is an idiot or a liar (and if he's with Reuters or AP, probably both).

8 posted on 02/03/2007 12:41:10 AM PST by Petronski (Who am I and why am I here?)
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Where does one begin with such an article ... "catholics" who feel disenfranchised by the Catholic Church, but want to remain catholic.

In 1998, the Roman Catholic Diocese of Rochester removed Callan from the city's Corpus Christi Church after he invited non-Catholics to Communion, blessed same-sex unions, and allowed women a leading role on the altar. He and the Rev. Mary Ramerman, a female priest ordained by an independent bishop in 2001, responded with Spiritus Christi, a church that has 1,500 members and rents space in a Presbyterian Church. Its followers include a group it calls its "lesbian loft."


Rev. Mary Ramerman

9 posted on 02/03/2007 1:31:28 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1778519/posts


10 posted on 02/03/2007 5:46:14 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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Some good news, but curious. Don't you need to be invited to join the Knights? Maybe they need to check you gave him the invite.

ROME, February 2, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Knights of Malta have officially notified LifeSiteNews that Terry McAuliffe will never be admitted to the Order of Malta on account of his pro-abortion stand and public repudiation of the Catholic Church's teachings on the sanctity of life.

On Monday, McAuliffe made a brazen boast on the Hugh Hewitt show that not only could he be "pro-choice" and "Catholic", but said he was also invited to join the famous Knights of Malta. The Knights initially disbelieved reports that pro-abortion McAuliffe was joining their Order, but after examining the facts re-informed LifeSiteNews that the Order has no choice but to reject McAuliffe as an unworthy candidate

11 posted on 02/03/2007 5:48:46 AM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear.. on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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"Underground catholics," my fanny. These people are simply not Catholics any more.


12 posted on 02/03/2007 7:02:08 AM PST by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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Martin Luther and John Calvin did it better.


13 posted on 02/03/2007 7:43:39 AM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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"I can't imagine not being a Catholic," said Steven Lord,

Newsflash. You're not Catholic. Just cause a cat has her kittens in the oven don't mean they're muffins.


15 posted on 02/03/2007 9:27:54 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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Our Lady's Warriors>Dissent>Organizations

Voice of the Faithful (VOTF) From their mission statement, they are attempting to "3. Shape structural change within Church." This is intended to make a "democratic" Church which clearly violates the hierarchical structure which has always existed and is reemphasized in Vatican II Lumen Gentium. The chairman James Muller states in a National Catholic Reporter article on April 26, 2002, ìWe have donation without representation, and we have to change that.î Also on a CNN interview dated April 29, 2002, the chairman desires cafeteria Catholicism: "... our goal is to provide a democracy for the laity, so that the laity can decide what they want and then counterbalance the absolute power, which we have now of the hierarchy." See more details below.

17 posted on 02/03/2007 9:40:46 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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**Spiritus Christi of Rochester, N.Y., a church that calls itself Catholic and is led by an excommunicated priest.**

Not really Catholic, are they?


18 posted on 02/03/2007 9:41:37 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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They may think they're smart

But I'm smarter and meaner

In a debate I'd beat them

Like Ike beat Tina

21 posted on 02/03/2007 11:44:38 AM PST by bornacatholic (I am the Catholic Cassius Clay)
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To: Coleus; Salvation; NYer; livius; bornacatholic; Mrs. Don-o

Being a faithful Catholic, don't these stories just make you MAD that for the most part, nothing is being DONE about dissenting "catholics"?

I plan to inundate the Vatican with letters asking that groups like Voice of the Faithful, Catholics for a Free Choice be disciplined for their unorthodox views causing scandal to the Church. I dont know if my letters will be read or not, but at least it's a start.

It is exactly because of large dissenting groups like these going unchecked that smaller splinter groups form - they have no fear of being excommunicated because let's face it, most Bishops just refuse to do so. It is a rare thing indeed to find a courageous Bishop (like the one in Nebraska) who actually DID excommunicate the local chapter of VOTF.


23 posted on 02/03/2007 2:44:59 PM PST by Caravaggio
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There is no reliable data about how many underground churches exist. Many were formed after the sexual-abuse scandals, but others were started by worshipers unhappy with the church's growing conservatism and those who rebelled against church hierarchy.

Ahhhhhh.....I knew there was a good news aspect to this story somewhere. I just had to search a little deeper to find it!!

29 posted on 02/03/2007 3:41:29 PM PST by marshmallow
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