[bremenboy]

a lot of questions i will try to answer each one at a time

1. What is the nature of God's Love

will it starts with the fact that we can't fully understand It but we can know it

Eph 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fullness of God.

I would submit that God's love is as deep as his Justice. With God it either the full blissing of his love and mercy or the full wrath of his vengeance and justice.

Eze 18:20 The soul that sins, it shall die. A son shall not bear the iniquity of the father. And a father shall not bear the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be on him.

[Mad Dawg]

Of course, I'm new to this but I have recently learned that Spirit-guided Love cheifly involves expressing hatred and contempt for people with whom you disagree and doing so in the most contemptuous possible language, even after you've been told many times that the language is painful and hardens rather than changes the opinion which fills you with hatred.

It's also Spirit-filled to blame the victim of your assaults or of those of your co-religionists for being hurt by your attempts to, uh, hurt him.

And finally the REAL sign of the Spirit is to claim some ineffable internal justification, neither perceptible empirically nor explicable by reason for expressions of hostility and contempt. The freedom provided by the Spirit in this case is inestimable, since you need not worry about accountability at all. "God told me to do it," excuses everything. No explanation is needed or indeed possible. And this also relieves one of the painful work of developing insight, repenting, and handing oneself over to God agqin and again.

This is not a personal comment on you, bremenboy. I don't know you. It is however a suggestion that a conversation, however grounded in texts from Scripture, may not be persuasive if it doesn't take into account the actual behavior of the participants in the dialogue.

If this sounds angry, it's because I'm angry. An opinion about so-called charismatics that I've resisted for years just was, regrettably, confirmed.

[Quix]

Great points.

I have often, at least in my life, found that God’s generous gentle Love can SOMETIMES come alongside His fierce severity. And, they can each come more or less alone for long periods of time.