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THE IMPORTANCE OF [rebuilding] BABYLON [socialism began thr; bk critique R We Living N END TIMES?]
BK: Are We Living in the END TIMES? | 1999, 30 APR 2007 | Tim LaHaye, Jerry B Jenkins, Quix critique

Posted on 04/30/2007 9:00:21 PM PDT by Quix

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To: pjr12345

History of the not too distant future will prove which perspective covered more data points/predicted more data points accurately.

Stay tuned.

In my 60 years, it’s always been a fairly sure bet to bet on the Bible’s literal fulfillment.


21 posted on 04/30/2007 10:54:59 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
socialism began thr; bk critique R We Living N END TIMES?

Somebody has been doing a little too much text messaging.

22 posted on 05/01/2007 12:33:20 AM PDT by iowamark (What if the Right said Fred?)
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To: Quix
Some scholars claim that 75% of the bible is prophecy...I see no reason to dispute that...

It's bizarre to claim that the bible's prophecy ends with the church and we are now living in the physical Kingdom of God/Heaven...

There is so much in the bible that we can not relate to because the true meaning of much of the bible has not been revealed yet...And will not be revealed except to the people that it was written to...The bible does not end with the church...

P143 You can be sure that any city mentioned seven times in two chapters as is Babylon in Revelation 17 and 18, will be a literal city. And since it is seen there as an enormously influential city, perhaps even the capital of government, commerce, and religion, it must yet be rebuilt. . . .

I believe it is, and has been rebuilt for some time...But not in Iraq...In looking again to Jer. 51, there is much that could be applied to the here and now...

23 posted on 05/01/2007 2:09:42 AM PDT by Iscool (I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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To: pjr12345; Quix
How on earth could they possibly confirm DNA?

There are certain genetic markers that were found to be in common with most Jewish people (and some Samaritans) that are not found in other Gentile peoples. But the problem is that many of the Eastern Jews have a lot of Khazar blood, and don't look like the Western European Jews.

A VERY political subject, and one that almost most no one likes to look into. The Khazar were a Turkish people between the Eastern Roman Empire and the Caliph that decided to split the difference and become Jewish. There were already a large number of Jews living in the land, so this wasn't as surprising as it could have been. The claim that "All Jews in Israel are Khazars" is made by many islamics to say that Israel doesn't have a right to exist.

24 posted on 05/01/2007 6:42:34 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

Why don’t they just start measuring skulls like the Nazis used to???


25 posted on 05/01/2007 7:03:49 AM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Terrorists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: pjr12345

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By using the common genetic trait, there is at least a good idea that they came from the same people somewhere along the line. It is uncommon enough that it is fairly specific.


26 posted on 05/01/2007 7:20:14 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

what about their required genealogies? What about being an “israelite” only if your mother was? Science can’t reproduce that.


27 posted on 05/01/2007 7:24:43 AM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Terrorists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: pjr12345
True. But that is where the genetic tests came in.

There are communities of Jews who can or claim to trace their families back to the historical kingdom of Israel. The DNA was looked at, and certain common markers were found. That later was used to ascertain if someone was “Jewish”.

28 posted on 05/01/2007 7:30:05 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Quix
A key is found in Dr. Charles Pak’s report of his 1975 visit to Babylon to witness firsthand the rebuilding of that ancient city. There, for the first time in his life, Dr. Pak witnessed the worship of the devil at a reconstructed temple to the sun. When you recall that Hussein is known to micromanage everything in his country, including that entire rebuilding project, you can be sure that a temple to Satan would not be there without his approval.

Saddam Hussein became president of Iraq in July, 1979.

29 posted on 05/01/2007 7:33:59 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Campion

this is nothing new... all of islam worships the devil and calls him allah.


30 posted on 05/01/2007 7:42:28 AM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Terrorists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: Campion; pjr12345

Do you agree with post #30?


31 posted on 05/01/2007 8:13:31 AM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: Augustinian monk

Clarification:

The allah of islam is no different than baal of the moab.

Surely muslims believe allah to be god.

Sadly, they will be mightily surprised when they come face-to-face with the Almighty God of the Universe, the Great I AM.


32 posted on 05/01/2007 8:53:53 AM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Terrorists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: Augustinian monk
Muslims correctly identify God as the uncreated, "first-principle" creator of all things, and correctly call the true God merciful and benificent.

They then proceed to wrongly ascribe to him a number of qualities which make (their understanding of) him closer to a demonic slavemaster than the God of the Bible.

33 posted on 05/01/2007 8:59:02 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Iscool; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Alex Murphy; Marysecretary

Agreed. Verse 5 of jer 51 is particularly important, I think.

Many REPLACEMENTARIANS contend that Israel has forsaken God so all the PROMISES OF GOD are forfeited.

5: For Israel has not been forsaken, nor Judah of his God, of the Lord of Hosts; though their land was filled with sin against the Holy One of Israel


34 posted on 05/01/2007 9:46:07 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: redgolum; SJackson

Correct.

I believe there was a thread on FR some time ago. The Jews claiming to be descendants of Aaron were sampled and compared to everyone else. They determined through some process that there was, indeed, a very high probability that the individual claiming such lineage was a valid priestly candidate.


35 posted on 05/01/2007 9:53:03 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: pjr12345

Perhaps you would learn a lot from the National Geographic’s DNA project. You can search out your own ancient ancestoral path across the planet. It’s available at their website.


36 posted on 05/01/2007 9:55:58 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Campion

He had been in charge of many things as Vice President for years before he led a successful coup against the President.


37 posted on 05/01/2007 9:56:52 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Campion; pjr12345

I believe Muzzies will be shocked, too.

However, I also believe God meant what He said when HE SAID that those who earnestly SEEK HIM, shall find Him.

Therefore, it would not surprise me that God turns out to be amazingly merciful to folks of true heart who, doing the best they knew, sought ALMIGHTY GOD in the way they were taught.


38 posted on 05/01/2007 9:58:47 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
Matthew 7:7-8 -- 7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened."

John 14:6 -- 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

Yes. If one seeks one shall find. And what they shall find is the only way to the Father: Jesus.

The problem with many muslims is that they are not seeking truth, they are following a lie. Seeking that lie will lead to hell.

39 posted on 05/01/2007 10:11:22 AM PDT by pjr12345 (What is it about "The Terrorists want to kill us!" don't you people understand?)
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To: pjr12345

Agreed.


40 posted on 05/01/2007 10:29:12 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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