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Have We Not Reason to Rejoice?
LDS.org ^ | 10/07 | Dieter F. Uchtdorf

Posted on 02/10/2008 11:25:15 AM PST by Reaganesque

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To: tortdog; outofstyle
Why don’t you tell me how I define bigot? Hint: consider consulting a dictionary before you answer.

Your definition is much broader than the dictionary definition. You define anyone who exercises discernment in a way that you disagree as a bigot.

The fact of the matter is that your statement about the "religious right" is a prime example of a bigoted statement. You have no "tolerance" for people who have decided for whatever reason that they would not consider voting for a Mormon for president.

Frankly I would have concerns about a "good Mormon" being president since a "good Mormon" is expected to obey the LDS Leadership without question. I would have no qualms at all about voting for a "Jack Mormon" for president, since he would not have the same unquestioning loyalty to the LDS Leadership.

If that makes me a bigot, then I am a bigot.

I call it discernment.

It's a gift.

141 posted on 02/13/2008 6:13:28 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: outofstyle
You are really stretching here. I don’t believe that I am either an idiot or a bigot. But I am certain that both idiots and bigots would reject the label. You and I would both accept the label “conservative.”� Next time, maybe we can work together.

Would you honestly consider voting for a committed Scientologist to be president of the United States?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

142 posted on 02/13/2008 6:15:44 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

>Your definition is much broader than the dictionary definition. You define anyone who exercises discernment in a way that you disagree as a bigot.

You err. Next time, extend me the courtesy of not putting words in my mouth.

That is the second time I have caught you making patently false statements. Should I continue to expect the same from you?


143 posted on 02/13/2008 6:22:23 PM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog
That is the second time I have caught you making patently false statements. Should I continue to expect the same from you?

Tell you what.

I won't post to you anymore and you won't post to me anymore.

That way we can avoid these misunderstandings.

144 posted on 02/13/2008 6:24:47 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: svcw

I asked for the cite to the definition you provided. Do you have one or did you just make it up?


145 posted on 02/13/2008 6:26:58 PM PST by tortdog
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To: svcw

I asked for the cite to the definition you provided. Do you have one or did you just make it up?


146 posted on 02/13/2008 6:27:38 PM PST by tortdog
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To: P-Marlowe

I will likely still correct you when you misrepresent facts.


147 posted on 02/13/2008 6:29:14 PM PST by tortdog
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To: P-Marlowe

I will likely still correct you when you misrepresent facts. I am funny that way.


148 posted on 02/13/2008 6:29:54 PM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog
I am funny that way.

You are not funny in any way.

149 posted on 02/13/2008 6:32:35 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: tortdog

Dictionary


150 posted on 02/13/2008 6:35:11 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: svcw

Which dictionary uses the definition for Christianity that you provided?

Hint: A cite requires the information necessary for a third person to verify the information and determine the quality of the cite.


151 posted on 02/13/2008 6:39:46 PM PST by tortdog
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To: svcw

Which dictionary uses the definition for Christianity that you provided?

Hint: A cite requires the information necessary for a third person to verify the information and determine the quality of the cite.


152 posted on 02/13/2008 6:43:34 PM PST by tortdog
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To: svcw

Which dictionary uses the definition for Christianity that you provided?

Hint: A cite requires the information necessary for a third person to verify the information and determine the quality of the cite.


153 posted on 02/13/2008 6:44:49 PM PST by tortdog
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To: P-Marlowe
The “simple answer” to your question is: if he is conservative, yes. It appears however, that your response to my desire that conservatives unite without religious prejudice, is “no.”
154 posted on 02/13/2008 6:50:36 PM PST by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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To: svcw

Apologies for the double and triple posts. I am posting via a cell phone and its posting more than once.


155 posted on 02/13/2008 6:57:20 PM PST by tortdog
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To: tortdog
So let me get this straight, if you do not approve of the dictionary I got the definition of Christianity from, you will dismiss the definition....does that sum it up?
156 posted on 02/13/2008 7:01:05 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: tortdog

Don’t worry about it.


157 posted on 02/13/2008 7:01:52 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: svcw

BTTT


158 posted on 02/13/2008 7:02:24 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: outofstyle
It appears however, that your response to my desire that conservatives unite without religious prejudice, is “no.”

Who did you vote for in the primary?

And why did you pick that candidate over some other candidate?

And did the candidates religious persuasion fit anywhere into your decision?

I voted for Romney. I felt that of the remaining candidates he was the best we had at the time and was the most likely to be a good executive. I was concerned about his religion for two paramount reasons, one, he has sworn an oath to obey the leadership of his church without question and two, I really don't think a "Good Mormon High Priest" is any more electable than a "Good Fundamentalist Baptist Pastor".

The secular media was not going to give Romney a pass because his beliefs are fundamentalist Mormon and all the peculiar doctrines that are the functional equivalent of believing in a young earth 6 day creation were going to be aired in a way that would guarantee that both the secular middle and the religious right would have had to think twice before pulling the lever.

I think that anyone who denies that they have somewhat bigoted views about religion does not consider religion important in their own lives.

You are a Catholic because you believe that Catholicism is true and that all other religions are inferior. If you don't believe that, then maybe you aren't that serious about your catholicism.

159 posted on 02/13/2008 7:02:40 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Tennessee Nana

TN, you need to enlighten me on BTTT.


160 posted on 02/13/2008 7:03:52 PM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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