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Why Evangelicals are Returning to Rome
CIC ^ | April 2008 | Bob DeWaay

Posted on 05/02/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Augustinian monk

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To: BnBlFlag

sorry spinter = splinter


121 posted on 05/02/2008 9:50:45 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98; fishtank
All of God's family is "full of grace."

And everyone of them, including Mary, was and is a sinner in need of a Savior.

When the multitude informed Christ His mother had arrived, Jesus corrected them...

"There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.

And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother." -- Mark 3:31-35

And this story is so important three of the four Gospels mention it exactly as written here...for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

122 posted on 05/02/2008 9:56:45 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: LurkingSince'98
We have been eating the flesh of the Son of Man and drinking His Blood as He commanded consecrated by the same priests ordained by the same bishops in the same manner for the last two thousand years.

Yes, the RCC has been "doing it" wrong for a long, long time.

123 posted on 05/02/2008 9:57:59 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

Cute cartoon, and your a Rummy fan. I love you.


124 posted on 05/02/2008 10:16:54 PM PDT by baa39
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To: Campion
Protestants who are coming to Rome because they've thought things through carefully often enough are coming because they see the same glaring illogic that bothered Luther.

Not to mention the barrenness of using theater as a cheap imitation for the action of the Holy Spirit in the lives of congregants.

125 posted on 05/02/2008 10:23:24 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
All of God's family is "full of grace."

Only one was saluted by an archangel with that title.

126 posted on 05/02/2008 10:36:23 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion
God decided that Christ would be born of a woman.

From that simple fact the RCC extrapolates so much foolishness. The RCC didn't even declare Mary's supposed "assumption" until a century ago.

The idolatrous adornment of Mary continues to snowball beyond redemption to where she is now tagged as the "co-redeemer" and "dispensatrix of all grace."

There must be Catholics on this planet who recoil from those titles just as much as Protestants do. They need to speak up. Better yet, they can just leave the errors behind.

"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them." -- Mark 6:11

127 posted on 05/02/2008 10:53:14 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski

The monk you are referring to is Martin Luther. I thank God for courageous and godly Christian men like him. If it weren’t for people like Martin Luther, I would not have copies of the Bible in English. I would not be able to read and study the Bible for myself. i would have to depend on the clergy to interpret it for me. I would not like that.


128 posted on 05/03/2008 12:09:28 AM PDT by kevinw
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To: mike182d

I find validation for my beliefs in the Bible.


129 posted on 05/03/2008 12:11:56 AM PDT by kevinw
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

How do you personally obey Christ’s unambiguous command to “Eat my flesh and Drink My Blood”??

and how can you have “life within you” when you don’t??

It is a definite, direct command of Christ, if your take the bible literally how can you duck that directive??

You guys have missed the boat.

Lurking’


130 posted on 05/03/2008 5:50:34 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

How do you personally obey Christ’s unambiguous command to “Eat my flesh and Drink My Blood”??

and how can you have “life within you” when you don’t??

It is a definite, direct command of Christ, if your take the bible literally how can you duck that directive??

You guys have missed the boat.

Lurking’


131 posted on 05/03/2008 5:50:35 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

All of God’s family is “full of grace.”

What a pile of post-reformation revisionism.

Please quote even one other line where any biblical figure Mary were called “Full of Grace”, let alone by an angel.

Lurking’


132 posted on 05/03/2008 5:54:00 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
What the hell thread you readin'?

Must really frost your cookies that Jews preserved 2/3rd's of your writings 1500 years before your tradition existed. --You, post 97.

133 posted on 05/03/2008 6:14:06 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: kevinw
If it weren’t for people like Martin Luther, I would not have copies of the Bible in English.

You really believe that. Amazing.

134 posted on 05/03/2008 6:15:24 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Mad Dawg; NYer; narses; Augustinian monk; Gamecock

Well isn’t the author fundamentally suggesting that sola scriptura is part of the magesterium of protestantism?


135 posted on 05/03/2008 6:15:57 AM PDT by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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To: mike182d
"Which man founded the Catholic Church?"

Mathew 16:18-19:

18 "And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it."

19 "I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

The Word, straight from Jesus himself.
136 posted on 05/03/2008 6:41:48 AM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: Augustinian monk

The article is rather ridiculous.


137 posted on 05/03/2008 7:08:21 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl
But the life of faith does not require tangible visibility

Thanks for the ping to this article. For a short while this morning, I looked for an excellent post made by Alamo Girl on another thread--now 5,000+ posts long. I could not find it, but I remember that the post was about how Catholics emphasize the physical/tangible and how non-Catholic Christians emphasize the spiritual.

In a society that needs constant sensual stimulation, is it any wonder that people would desire physical/tangible in worship? God knows the difficulty of loving an unseen spiritual being. In fact, we cannot love him unless he first loves us. And after that first love, we need the Holy Spirit to work in us through his word that we may continue to love what only can be seen by faith.

138 posted on 05/03/2008 7:10:18 AM PDT by suzyjaruki (Why?)
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To: Augustinian monk

I figured when a lot of protestant denoms started accepting homosexuality and birth control that Scripture was being left behind and a more worldly philosophy was being embraced.


139 posted on 05/03/2008 7:26:17 AM PDT by TradicalRC ("...just not yet.")
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To: suzyjaruki
Thank you oh so very much for sharing your insights, dear suzyjaruki!

Is this post 1345 the one you were seeking?

140 posted on 05/03/2008 7:33:21 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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