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Why Evangelicals are Returning to Rome
CIC ^ | April 2008 | Bob DeWaay

Posted on 05/02/2008 2:09:51 PM PDT by Augustinian monk

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To: MarkBsnr

“The men of the Catholic Church who brought Scripture to the world” “The Catholic Church gave you the Bible and the interpretation of it.”

Sheer arrogance. When these letters and gospels were written they weren’t written by Catholics because there WERE NO CATHOLICS in the first century.

You can tout the Bible as the Catholic gift to the world, fact remains that Catholics didn’t write it.


381 posted on 05/03/2008 5:34:56 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***THERE WE HAVE IT! Finally! A definition of what the RCs decry as “Bibliolatry.”

“Bibliolatry equals believing the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible!”***

Once again we have the good Dr. E. cutting and pasting out of context, just the same as she does with Bible passages. Why not post the whole sentence, Dr. E.?

I said in a moment of sarcasm: Ah, we have Bibliolatry; the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible and the Catholics suppressed it.

And so what does the learned Dr. E. post? Ah, we have Bibliolatry; the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible. And she promises to bookmark the post as abridged for further propagation.

Does your lack of intellectual honesty extend to your theology? I suspect that it does. It does explain to me how such an intellectually advanced individual would gravitate to such a despicable theology such as the Presbyterians would advance.

***No wonder Rome is in such tatters, embroiled in sexual and financial scandals while losing members left and right. ***

The Catholic Church is one of the fastest growing churches in the world. The Presbyterians on the other hand are losing around 5 percent per year world wide the last time I looked. Care to comment on that?


382 posted on 05/03/2008 5:35:01 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thank you for your efforts!!

My goodness, it looks like this comes up again and again, but that should be no surprise.

383 posted on 05/03/2008 5:35:07 PM PDT by suzyjaruki (Why?)
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To: wmfights

“Amen!

Let me stand with you on that!”

Thanks!


384 posted on 05/03/2008 5:35:37 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Rome does not believe the Holy Spirit wrote the Bible. (I've got to bookmark this post for the next time some RC apologist denies they ever said this.)

You probably don't want to use that bookmark. If someone actually linked back to the post you carved that quote from, they might get the idea you are as loonie as the Black Knight.

385 posted on 05/03/2008 5:36:16 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Petronski; Dr. Eckleburg
Such repetitive misrepresentation of Catholicism is a consistent error of New Jersey.

Yet, the record never gets set straight. Is it because the beliefs of the church of Rome are to contradictory to explain clearly, or is it because they are so complicated that RC's are afraid to say what they are and be shown to not know them.

Our Saviour Jesus Christ was very clear. Believe in Him and be saved.

386 posted on 05/03/2008 5:37:01 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Some posters follow other posters around the forum from thread to thread.

Other posters read the Religion thread and respond to lies about their faith, often finding the same culprits in those lies over and over.

387 posted on 05/03/2008 5:37:12 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: swmobuffalo
...there WERE NO CATHOLICS in the first century.

False.

388 posted on 05/03/2008 5:37:45 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski
Good grief! Anyone can read the words and see for themselves what's been written.

I understand your shame at those words, however. They really are appalling.

389 posted on 05/03/2008 5:37:53 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
The Catholic Church is one of the fastest growing churches in the world. The Presbyterians on the other hand are losing around 5 percent per year world wide the last time I looked. Care to comment on that?

Dr. E can certainly handle herself but I couldn't help but stating that the Muslims have now outpace the Catholic Church. Care to comment on that?

390 posted on 05/03/2008 5:37:56 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: MarkBsnr


That one has been
a serious disappointment.

391 posted on 05/03/2008 5:39:44 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski
If you accept Machen and are OPC, you accept the WCF, including its conclusion that the pope is the antichrist.

For the SIXTH time, I do not see where Ratzinger contradicts or disproves one word of the WCF. After all, he calls himself "another Christ" and "infallible."

Shame on him.

392 posted on 05/03/2008 5:40:07 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Your post in this thread:

Saturday, May 03, 2008 6:00:48 PM · 288 of 383
Dr. Eckleburg to MarkBsnr
Then you ought to really consider the words of the WCF
I do. Every word based on Scripture.

and whether you consider Pope Benedict XVI to be the antiChrist. Well, do you?

You’ve asked this twice now. Perhaps you think I’m afraid to answer it or something. Nope. My answer is that Ratzinger isn’t doing much to dispel the notion

**********

This is where you say that you don’t consider Pope Benedict XVI to be the antiChrist.

***Show me where I wrote “I don’t consider him to be the antiChrist?”

You’ll have a long time looking for that post.***

It took me all of 30 seconds. I don’t understand why you wouldn’t think that I could resurrect your post in which you have stated what you have stated.

Are you claiming now that he IS the antiChrist?


393 posted on 05/03/2008 5:40:15 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

But the Eucharist is the sign that Christ is with us, as he promised. Behind the veil is Christ in glory. By this means we are made present at his sacrifice. If the invisible Lord God could be present with Israel in the desert, why not also with us by a visible sign? If the Holy Spirit can speak to us from the pages of a book, why not in the form of bread and wine? If the Holy Spirit can bring forth a man from the Virgin, why not from bread and wine?


394 posted on 05/03/2008 5:40:38 PM PDT by RobbyS (Ecce homo)
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To: wmfights
...they are so complicated that RC's are afraid to say what they are and be shown to not know them.

Want to know what a Catholic believes?

Click here. Or would you rather play gotcha?

395 posted on 05/03/2008 5:41:29 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: hosepipe

***Luther left the RCC, true, others were never a prisoner in it.. The RCC didn’t assume non local power until about 313AD.. Until then most localities had local governments..***

The Church is not a government. It is the Church of Jesus Christ. If Luther was a prisoner, how does that separate him from other who weren’t?

***But it is true that, RCC histories have been re-written with spin to suggest (almost)constant primacy of Rome.. which of course is jaded or even a lie.. lets assume jaded..***

The Catholic Church history is wide open for examination.


396 posted on 05/03/2008 5:42:27 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I understand your shame at those words, however.

I am ashamed only of your shabby misquoting of his words.

397 posted on 05/03/2008 5:42:35 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

No one can force you to say “Yes, the WCF is right about that” or “No, I disagree with the WCF.”


398 posted on 05/03/2008 5:44:19 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***Again, all you guys are capable of doing is overlapping the discussion with mindless repetitions of questions that have already been asked and answered.***

You don’t answer what has been asked. You excerpt snippets of posts in order to make them other than what the intent of the post was.

The disingenous nature of your posts give us reason to regard you as we do.


399 posted on 05/03/2008 5:44:46 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: CaspersGh0sts; HarleyD; PAR35; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; alpha-8-25-02; TonyRo76; ears_to_hear; ...
Speaking as a Presbyterian (more of a free-agent Protestant), I find the idea of sola scriptura a bit lacking.

Speaking as a Presbyterian, I've never in my life heard of a Presbyterian denying Sola Scriptura.

What Presbyterian church do you belong to?

400 posted on 05/03/2008 5:45:24 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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