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Why so many LDS threads?
08-May-2008 | Grig

Posted on 05/08/2008 5:04:47 PM PDT by Grig

I am posting this on behalf of many LDS freepers. They will post their own 'signature' to this in the comments below. --- Some of you have noticed lately a lot of LDS (ie: Mormon) threads here on FR. I'm going to tell you why.

For many years there have been several active LDS freepers here. We post to all the forums on relevant issues, and were happy to have a site where conservative values were so openly welcomed.

Those conservative values include faith in God, and freedom of religion. We fully respect the rights of all posters to express their opinions and views on religious matters, even when people choose to use those rights to express criticism of our own faith. We also support the ideas embodied in FR rules against religion bashing. There is no need for hostility and there should be no room for bigotry on FR. Every religion has it's miracles and mysteries. Every faith has things in it that are not or can not be proven, and things that run contrary to what secular science would have us believe. Someone mature and confident in their own faith generally doesn't feel the need to belittle the faith of others.

We have, to the best of our ability, conducted ourselves with civility and dignity. We do not feel that that respect has been returned by some posters (putting it mildly).

When Mormon missionaries were murdered, the moderators were kept busy pulling jubilant posts off the thread. When Elizabeth Smart was abducted from her home, we contended for months with posters who appeared to be motivated by religious bigotry doing all they could to smear the family and accuse the father. Several posters openly admitted their religious motivation in opposing Mitt Romney and confessed that no matter how conservative any Mormon was, they would never vote for one for President of the USA. When the Pope died, I don't think any Mormon poster posted anything unkind, yet the thread about the passing of our President recently needed many comments removed.

Nearly every thread having any connection with Mormons, or Utah winds up being hijacked by anti-Mormon activists who copy and paste the same false accusations over and over even when it has been clearly and factually pointed out to them on multiple occasions that they are bearing false witness against our faith. Everything possible is done by these activists to make FR a hostile place for Mormons, and for at least some of them, bashing Mormonism is all they do here. Their most recent project is trying to blur the fact that the polygamous FLDS is a separate and distinct religion from ours, just as Lutherans are a separate and distinct religion from Catholicism.

In our opinion, such poster do a great disservice to FR and to their fellow freepers by spreading disinformation and promoting hostility towards a people known for walking the walk of conservative values.

Why the moderators here don't see the behavior of these anti-Mormon activists as religion bashing is a mystery to us, but it is the moderators call to make and we respect their right to do so. That doesn't mean we have to be passive however. We have all spent many hours refuting the accusations leveled at our faith, but these wind up buried deep in a flood of comments, effectively shouting us down.

Recently some of us have decided to take a more proactive approach. Rather than try to wrestle the pig into taking a bath, we are just going to hose it down. We will actively define our faith here rather than just respond to accusations.

So expect to see lots of Mormon threads, now and for as long as we see fit to keep posting them (although probably not as many as there are Catholic threads). They will be about our basic doctrines and responses to common accusations. If you want to know what our faith is about, read the articles we post. We will post them as open threads and I encourage you to compare the difference in tone and spirit between what we post and what our critics say.


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To: MHGinTN
When I cashed my check at Kirkland Bank, they gave me threes ... nobody will accept them. Does that mean I’m rich? ... Could we make that ‘Mark’ Rich?

More filthy lucre!

1,041 posted on 05/10/2008 5:27:56 PM PDT by Godzilla (I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.)
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To: Grig

BTW: What I have noticed is this forum has become almost entirely Mormon or Catholic threads. Have all of the Protestants left?


1,042 posted on 05/10/2008 5:28:03 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: MHGinTN; DelphiUser
Thus the ‘falling away’ is a scene just at the end of the Church Age

I'm still waiting for DU to name names of who this son of perdition is since he is to be revealed

1,043 posted on 05/10/2008 5:29:29 PM PDT by Godzilla (I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Apparantly that has happened a lot...
But the false prophet Joseph Smith got hisself arrested for robbery, fraud etc
and they throwed his scrawny ugly mug in the hooscow...
dontcha know ???

Shhhhh, thats just the facts that Joey can't defend himself on (although that defense was already done)

1,044 posted on 05/10/2008 5:31:21 PM PDT by Godzilla (I'm out of my mind, but feel free to leave a message.)
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To: MHGinTN

the Lord knows all our hearts and minds plus movtives MHGinTN!..

And on that Great and Dreadful day we shall see...


1,045 posted on 05/10/2008 5:33:42 PM PDT by restornu (The Opposition spends all its time "playing goalie" hoping others will not READ the BOOK OF MORMON!)
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To: ladyinred; Godzilla; Tennessee Nana; MHGinTN; Enosh; colorcountry; SENTINEL; dmw; ansel12
BTW: What I have noticed is this forum has become almost entirely Mormon or Catholic threads. Have all of the Protestants left?

The mormons have decided to bury the forum in mormon propaganda since they don't like being opposed in their proselytizing, and wish to stifle the opposition...hence this thread and all the others.

I don't know about the Catholic threads.

There are still some Protestants left...a few of us are braving the threatened "hosing" daily. Feel free to join in.

1,046 posted on 05/10/2008 5:41:41 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Plea to mormon FReepers, "DONT HOSE ME, BRO!")
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To: Godzilla; DelphiUser
I'm still waiting for DU to name names of who this son of perdition is since he is to be revealed

Which post? I guess I missed it. I don't bother wading through DU's stuff.

1,047 posted on 05/10/2008 5:43:16 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Plea to mormon FReepers, "DONT HOSE ME, BRO!")
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To: restornu
the Lord knows all our hearts and minds plus movtives

Why resty, that's just what I've been telling YOU on another thread...imagine that!

1,048 posted on 05/10/2008 5:44:44 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Plea to mormon FReepers, "DONT HOSE ME, BRO!")
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To: ansel12

Calvery Baptist Church, on Green Lane in Bristol, Pa.

Sunday School 9:30 am, Main Service 11 am, Sunday evenings 7 pm, and Wednesday Prayer Meetings 7 p,.

Vacation Bible School every summer, and I went to Word of Life Camp, in Schroon Lake, upstate NY every summer until I was 14. (the last year was in 69, and I remember fighting the traffic heading to Woodstock.)

We had many a fabulous traveling preacher who would do one or two week revivals, each night, at our church. They included Rev Lehman Strauss, Jack Van Impe (still on TV each week) and many others whom I cant recall at the moment.

My church was so strict, my dad wouldn’t even allow me to play pool on Sundays. Absolutely no dancing. (it was a sin back then)

No alcohol what so ever. No card playing. Smoking would not send you to hell, but it smelled like you had been there (little church joke there)

Crew cuts only. Long hair was effeminite, and an absolute sin.

I went to see the great Rev. Billy Graham several times, and my family put up missionaries each year. (they slept in my bedroom, which meant I had to move in with my sister)

My church preached fire and brimstone, literally. They have mellowed somewhat, and kids now can have long hair, wear bell bottoms, and play cards.

They can dance also, and I believe the preacher there now (as has Billy Graham) has since backed off the concept of a literal Hell.

I got allowance based on how many Bible verses I could memorize.

I still believe what I was taught as a youngster. (Phil 2: 6??) Train up a child in God’s Word, and when he gets older, he will not depart from it... (paraphrased, and the verse number might be wronga)

Still, I cannot stand people who think THEY are the absolute truth. My church changed so much over the years, as have ALL churches.

People who get smarmy on Mormons should be ashamed. America was founded on the greatest democratic principal of God’s Universe — FREEDOM OF WORSHIP.

I will never believe anything taught by the Mormon church. Still, I respect and admire them as good conservatives, good Americans.


1,049 posted on 05/10/2008 5:48:09 PM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: DelphiUser
I understand the frustration you have that since you only have the Bible it's difficult to actually know what it's testifying of, the Bible itself says "Cor 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established." and you have only one witness, the Bible.

Absurd! You make an utterly illegitimate assertion.

The Bible is not one book with one human penman. The Book contains, in and of itself, many witnesses.

On the other hand, the Book of Mormon is penned by one man - one false witness.

1,050 posted on 05/10/2008 5:48:58 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: DelphiUser; MHGinTN; greyfoxx39; All
Why are there so many different Bibles, new ones being added seemingly every day? (Somebody thinks they need a new version interpreted their way...) [DU]

OK, DU which version of the Book of Mormon is inspired? Was it the first truncated version of 116 pages? (The one he gave to Martin Harris, whose wife lost it?) Those 116 pages were never "re-translated." So because of that, is the only truly inspired Book of Mormon the original gold plates? (Sounds like to me it would be). Does that reality--not having the ONE good translation of the BoM--keep Mormon folk from reading & trusting in the BoM? (Nope). So it sounds like a double standard you're using, right? (Yup)

1,051 posted on 05/10/2008 5:52:58 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Osage Orange
A single line is an admonishment
Multiple posts are a lecture.
1,052 posted on 05/10/2008 5:53:13 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: Colofornian
DU's posts remind me of THIS. But then Borga was paid to entertain ... and did it well!
1,053 posted on 05/10/2008 5:57:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: greyfoxx39
I want "safe harbor" from Mormons calling themselves Christians.

Fair enough?

1,054 posted on 05/10/2008 5:58:53 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: netmilsmom
A single line is an admonishment Multiple posts are a lecture.

ROFLOL....ok, mom.

1,055 posted on 05/10/2008 5:59:06 PM PDT by Osage Orange (molon labe)
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To: greyfoxx39; Godzilla; DelphiUser; sevenbak
Which post? I guess I missed it. I don't bother wading through DU's stuff.

Almost as bad as sevenbak's posts.

Usually 56 pages of junk - none of which directly answers the question that was asked.

1,056 posted on 05/10/2008 6:00:39 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: Rock&RollRepublican

These were the questions I asked, but you seem to have described a church that you used to go to. Which type of Baptist church do you attend now?

Which fundamentalist baptist church do you belong to?

Since you are a practicing Baptist, how did you come to have such little influence in your home that your wife and your children are Catholics?


1,057 posted on 05/10/2008 6:03:49 PM PDT by ansel12 (Unfortunately, son, we 'Utahans' sometimes have to bend the rules a little in order to hold our own.)
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To: SkyPilot

Click on the link in 1053 and enjoy your evening, brother in Christ.


1,058 posted on 05/10/2008 6:04:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Osage Orange

You’re coming in at a post at post 973 to answer post 103.

Hon, you’re a bit late to the party and I’m already in bed.

Bye!


1,059 posted on 05/10/2008 6:07:55 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: ansel12
how did you come to have such little influence in your home that your wife and your children are Catholics?

I didn't say I or my family were practicing Catholics.

My wife was raised a Catholic, but she came to like my church and eventually considered herself a practicing Baptist (I think).

She preferred Calvary Baptist over her former Catholic church, which was Queen of the Universe, and St. Michael's.

I only said I took my kids to Catholic Church occasionally just to passify my wife's parents, who naturally were still devout Catholics back then.

I now attend a church, Christian Life Center, in Bensalem, Pa., which I think considers itself with the Assemblies of God.

I know nothing about the Assemblies of God.

All I know is that for two years, our preacher (several of them) preached straight out of the Bible: redemption, salvation, the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.... which is the only path to eternal life in Heaven.

No good works will get you there. No special prayers.

No matter how many times you attend Church, no matter how much you donate to whomever.

Sorry, was getting carried away there

1,060 posted on 05/10/2008 6:08:28 PM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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