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'Birth pains' have begun (End Days Alert) [Open]
WND ^ | May 16, 2008 | Hal Lindsey

Posted on 05/17/2008 2:52:18 PM PDT by NYer

The world has endured an almost mind-numbing series of shocks in recent weeks, from the unprecedented swarm of tornadoes across the American Midwest to the death and destruction wrought by Cyclone Nargis as it tore a path through Myanmar, better known as Burma.

There were 368 documented tornadoes in the U.S. in January and February of this year, shattering the previous record of 243 over that two-month period, set in 1999. February's total of 232 tornadoes also shattered previous records.

Cyclone Nargis ripped Burma apart, killing at least 128,000, according to Red Cross estimates, and creating some 2.5 million refugees.

Al Gore was quick to blame global warming. In an interview on NPR to plug his appropriately named book on global warming, "Assault on Reason," he told host Terry Gross: "And as we're talking today, Terry, the death count in Myanmar from the cyclone that hit there yesterday has been rising from 15,000 to way on up there to much higher numbers now being speculated. . … And last year a catastrophic storm last fall hit Bangladesh. The year before, the strongest cyclone in more than 50 years hit China – and we're seeing consequences that scientists have long predicted might be associated with continued global warming."

Maybe. But Germany's Institute of Marine Scientists says we're in for a 10-year period of global cooling. There sure seems to be a lot of opposition to what is supposed to be "settled science."

Global warming can't explain away the devastating earthquake that all but flattened a huge portion of western China. The death toll from Monday's quake is approaching 20,000, with twice that number still listed as missing. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, Monday's earthquake was the 25th "significant" earthquake registered so far this year.

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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: birthpains; birthpangs; burma; endtimes; hallindsey; lastdays; prophecy
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1 posted on 05/17/2008 2:52:19 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
When Jesus was asked by His disciples to tell them what "signs" would precede His return at the end of the age, He warned that "nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines, plagues and earthquakes in various places," He said (Matthew 24 and Luke 21). Using an analogy immediately understandable to all peoples in all nations, he said of these signs, "All these are the beginning of birth pains."

Jesus used a Greek word for the labor pains of a woman about to give birth. Jesus knew that every generation could understand the illustration. His meaning is clear. Just as a woman experiences birth pains that increase in frequency and intensity just before giving birth, so ALL the signs of His return would increase in frequency and intensity just before His return. Hey, for he first time in history, all of the signs have appeared together in the same time frame and are increasing in frequency and intensity. That, coupled with the fulfillment of the great predicted sign that Israel became a nation again after 2,000 hopeless years of worldwide dispersion, indicates that Jesus Christ is already at the door ready to return. Are you ready?

Okay ... I'm having a little fun here. But I'll bet many people are thinking this. I don't take Hal Lindsey seriously but ... for all the Bible thumpers out there ... what say you?

2 posted on 05/17/2008 2:55:34 PM PDT by NYer (Jesus whom I know as my Redeemer cannot be less than God. - St. Athanasius)
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To: NYer

I say Nostradamus predicted this as being signs of the end of the world.


3 posted on 05/17/2008 2:57:57 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: NYer
No man knows the hour....
but the final question is still pertinent...."Are you ready?"
4 posted on 05/17/2008 2:59:34 PM PDT by pipecorp ( Al Lahsucks (boat steersman ) hell)
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To: pipecorp

Yeah. No one knows the hour. Not even Jesus. But we were instructed to be prepared and know the signs.

I kind of keep it in the back of my head.


5 posted on 05/17/2008 3:02:59 PM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: NYer

Stuff happens. Usually in threes.


6 posted on 05/17/2008 3:08:52 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: NYer

“There were 368 documented tornadoes in the U.S. in January and February of this year, shattering the previous record of 243 over that two-month period, set in 1999. February’s total of 232 tornadoes also shattered previous records.”

How many years did these records cover, out of the billions the world has existed?

“Cyclone Nargis ripped Burma apart, killing at least 128,000, according to Red Cross estimates, and creating some 2.5 million refugees.”

Natural tragedies will naturally kill more people as the world population climbs. You’l be chilled to know (though I wasn’t;) that the total world population recently passed 6,666,666,666. lol

“Global warming can’t explain away the devastating earthquake that all but flattened a huge portion of western China. The death toll from Monday’s quake is approaching 20,000, with twice that number still listed as missing. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, Monday’s earthquake was the 25th “significant” earthquake registered so far this year.”

Again, with the population in China, it’s not terribly surprising that a major earthquake killed a lot of people.

Considering God could simply wipe the planet out with a single asteroid strike, or making the Sun explode, the events you cite seem awfully weak evidence for anything.


7 posted on 05/17/2008 3:10:55 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: NYer

I remember Hal Lindsey 40 yrs. ago yapping on this.
In the mean time has has made millions on his books etc.
Many folks are so into his type of thinking, one reason they (as so called conservatives)are voting for Obama
to fulfil the endtimes.

As a strong believer in Orthodox Judeo - Christian beliefs
spare me from the Lindsey, TV preacher types.


8 posted on 05/17/2008 3:20:57 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: NYer
Here's something I bet you didn't know. Jesus said ‘As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the coming of the Son of Man.’

Well hasn't it been "As it was in the days of Noah..." all throughout history since Jesus' death? Yes less one particular thing. Care to take a guess as to what that is? Give up? Gay marriage.

Also, ‘There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God.’ (2 Tim 3:1-4)

Sounds like liberals and the Democrat party, doesn't it?
9 posted on 05/17/2008 3:23:17 PM PDT by coffee260 (coffee)
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To: NYer

I’m thinking about climbing the 90’ pines around my house (yes, I know I live in a hurricane prone area) and waiting in the top branches to await the Rapture (like some group did in the late 1890s).

“The Great Disappointment was a major event in the history of the Millerite movement, a 19th century American Christian sect. William Miller, a Baptist preacher, prophesied that Jesus Christ would return to the earth during the Jewish year 1844. A more specific date, that of October 22, 1844 was calculated by Samuel S. Snow. Jesus did not appear as expected on the appointed day and as a result October 22, 1844 became known as the Great Disappointment.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Disappointment

“Miller was a prosperous farmer, a Baptist layman and amateur student of the Bible, living in northern New York, in the region of that state which has come to be known as the Burned-over district. Through a literal reading of the Bible—particularly the prophecies of Daniel and using the year-day method of prophetic interpretation, Miller became convinced that Christ’s Second Coming was revealed in Bible prophecy.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millerites
Day by day, day by day, oh, dear Lord to you I pray,

Day by day...

The end times preoccupation I think is to compensate for the lack of sacraments and liturgy. Where we adore Christ, they must bludgeon people over the head with threats of hell, or flights of fancy (rapture).


10 posted on 05/17/2008 3:24:46 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: NYer
Because the God who created the vast and complex Universe enjoys flinging disasters at disobedient humans for fun?

"The most preposterous notion that H. Sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prayers, and becomes petulant if He does not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history."

-- Lazarus Long, Time Enough for Love, Robert A. Heinlein

Sorry, Hal. Try again. ;)

11 posted on 05/17/2008 3:27:33 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: NYer

I’m must waiting, with baited breath, for Pat Robertson to tell us for sure.


12 posted on 05/17/2008 3:27:40 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: NYer
Not a Bible thumper but I have seen several studies that say written history contains periods of way more significant turmoil. Name for me one period where nations weren't fighting nations.
13 posted on 05/17/2008 3:30:43 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Will this thread be jacked by a Mormon?)
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To: coffee260
Jesus said ‘As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the coming of the Son of Man.’

The pertinent question to ask regarding "Like in the Days of Noah" might be this:

Why did God determine that a flood was necessary in order to set things right? Why destroy all of creation?

14 posted on 05/17/2008 3:38:17 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Crazieman; pipecorp

Yeah. No one knows the hour. Not even Jesus. But we were instructed to be prepared and know the signs. 5 posted on May 17, 2008 4:02:59 PM MDT by Crazieman

No man know the day nor hour.

There is only one Feast Day commanded by YHvH
for which no man knows the day nor hour.

That is the Feast of Trumpets.
Because it requires the sighting of stars
and the crescent of the new moon in the evening in Jerusalem.
This year it will be evening of September 29.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
15 posted on 05/17/2008 3:38:53 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: NYer
Once we see these we'll know for sure:


16 posted on 05/17/2008 3:39:57 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: pipecorp; fanfan; Crazieman
No man knows the hour.... but the final question is still pertinent...."Are you ready?"

As I said above, I put little credence in Hal Lindsey who made a good buck on his book The Late Great Planet Earth. Just to "pique" your interest, however, it is worth noting that back in the 1930's our Lord appeared to a Polish nun who had a limited education. He asked her to be the secretary for His Divine Mercy message. The red text are His words.

"Your task is to write down everything that I make known to you about My mercy, for the benefit of those who by reading these things will be comforted in their souls and will have the courage to approach Me." (1693)

The Divne Mercy message is one of great love. It is a message that our Lord wanted to renew in mankind and to St. Faustina, he gave this beautiful image to be venerated, along with a chaplet of prayers.


"I promise that the soul that will venerate this image will not perish. I also promise victory over [its] enemies already here on earth, especially at the hour of death. I Myself will defend it as My own glory."

He also told her:

Write this: before I come as the just Judge, I am coming first as the King of Mercy. Before the day of justice arrives, there will be given to people a sign in the heavens of this sort: All light in the heavens will be extinguished, and there will be great darkness over the whole earth. Then the sign of the cross will be seen in the sky, and from the openings where the hands and the feet of the Saviour were nailed will come forth great lights which will light up the earth for a period of time. This will take place shortly before the last day. (83) 

Here below is a compendium of the messages given to St. Faustina.

INSPIRATIONAL QUOTES

17 posted on 05/17/2008 3:44:13 PM PDT by NYer (Jesus whom I know as my Redeemer cannot be less than God. - St. Athanasius)
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To: NYer

Sorry, I’m not a Bible thumper...I’m a bead rattler, and therefore not qualified to comment ! ;-)


18 posted on 05/17/2008 3:51:28 PM PDT by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: coffee260

Sounds like human nature to me...


19 posted on 05/17/2008 3:52:08 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Kill them with kindness, then taser them for fun.)
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To: NYer

The Divine Mercy is one of the most beautiful devotions around. I have the diary of St. Faustina.


20 posted on 05/17/2008 3:58:12 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
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