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To: the_conscience
the_conscience (conscience--precisely what our country needs! Wake up America...)

Thanks for the info on Yancey. In the original article he quotes a subjectivist Catholic theologian too, Fr. Karl Rahner--from what I understand, he is pretty much the "father of modernism and subjectivism" in Catholic circles today.

Nonetheless, without diminishing the importance of our redemption in Christ, some of Yancey's points taken from John Duns Scotus are worth reflecting upon. A Christ centered universe before the foundations of the world, even if Adam had not sinned, is not only not contrary to the Bible, but can even be said to be very biblical (Ephesians 1:3-12; Colossians 1:15-20; etc.).

At any rate, this sinner needs Christ as Redeemer and reflecting upon God's loving and merciful plan for me and all the world in Christ has never been a waste of time. God bless you.

166 posted on 08/18/2008 2:42:38 AM PDT by koinonia ("Thou art bought with the blood of God... Be the companion of Christ." -St. Ephraim)
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To: koinonia

I’ve run into that same arguement from one FR O’Keefe in an article I read somewhere. Don’t know much about Scotus. If the main assertion is, as I read it, that the Incarnation is an actual ontological fact throughout history then I believe we would face some real difficult theological challenges. Perhaps a different categorical claim could be made.

Thanks for writing. Grace to you.


167 posted on 08/18/2008 6:29:26 AM PDT by the_conscience (Can you hear the chorus of howls?)
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