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The War of Gog and Magog
RaptureReady.com ^ | Not Given | Joseph Chambers

Posted on 01/11/2009 11:49:33 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta

As the greatest supernatural intervention of human history -- a defense right out of heaven above -- Israel's God is going to reveal Himself. When this Divine display is finished, the Muslim religion will be stripped of all its glory. It will no doubt cause great anger among the hard core Muslims that escape death but a turning to Jesus Christ of those honest individuals that see the glory of our Eternal God. The Muslim religion is a farce when it is seen for what it really represents. Already millions of former Muslims have turned to Christ and the harvest has barely begun. One Saudi sheikh says in disgust that six million Muslims are converting to Christ yearly.

This coming war will serve as the eternal design of Bible prophecy. Men may well look at such a catastrophic devastation as cruel and beyond the acts of a Holy God, but this expression of wrath has been building for many centuries. It will include judgments against many vile and Godless acts of terror, great hatred manifest against the Jewish people, and hatred toward God Himself. Germany will receive her final judgment for the Holocaust and Russia will be judged for her atheistic hatred against her own people, as well as against Israelis and Christians. The Muslim religion will answer for centuries of vileness and defiance against the true and living God. The catastrophic level of God's wrath will be in the exact proportion to the wicked history of the nations involved.

This war could not occur until the nation of Israel was back in a portion of the Promise Land. There is not enough military might in the entire armies of the world to change God's promises. Israel is already a rich nation and is becoming richer every day. Their military is without parallel. They have discovered massive reserves of oil and eventually that discovery will be greater than all the Arab nations combined. How do we know that their oil deposits will be the world's greatest? The Promise Land and her treasures were ordained to flow as "milk and honey."

There are several promises for the discovery of oil by the Jewish people. God said, "For the precious things of heaven, for the dew, and for the deep that coucheth beneath…for they shall suck of the abundance of the seas, and of treasures hid in the sand…and let him dip his foot in oil" (Deuteronomy 33:13, 19, and 24). Someone can argue whether "the deep that coucheth beneath, treasures hid in the sand" or "dip his foot in oil" means oil deposits; but if we take these words literally, they are indeed powerful.

It is important that we know the Biblical reason for the War of Gog and Magog. It is Israel's riches and abundance that Russia covets. We know why the Muslims want to eliminate Israel, but Russia and much of her coalition forces want the treasures and wealth. If you study the unbelievable agricultural success, the technological brilliance, the military capabilities, and then add the possibility of billions of barrels of black gold, you will understand that Russia can see nothing but worldwide wealth and dominance.

One of their top politicians and advocates of this war to the south has left no room for guessing. Here are the words of Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky, a strategic ally of Putin:

The mighty God of our Bible has allowed enough of His extension of grace. It's time for judgment and it's time to make all His glory visible to the human family. Listen to God's promise of intervention. "And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face" (Ezekiel 38:16-18).

I pray that America will be there to help in this hour, but we will not be needed. I actually believe, contrary to many, that we will be faithful to Israel to the end. That will be the reason God honors America as a sheep nation in Matthew chapter twenty-five. Regardless, this will end the worldwide threat from Muslim terrorists and will sweep the Temple Mount in Jerusalem of every semblance of the false sun-god, named Allah.

Unnamed pestilences and blood will rain on the army of millions. The rain will be overflowing and mixed with hailstones, fire, and brimstones. It will be massive and will actually fall from Heaven in such a manner that no one will doubt that it is God Himself that fights for Israel. The Bible is careful to state that the slaughter of this mob of wicked people extends back to their staging countries and capital cities. "And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD. So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel" (Ezekiel 39:6-7).

Magog represents the Russian capital of Moscow and this Scripture includes the other nations which join this coalition. The judgment will leave no doubt about God's rejection of the Muslim Koran and religion. The world is trying to convince us that the Muslim god is identical to our Heavenly Father and His Son, Jesus Christ. This lie will die with Gog and Magog in the mountains of Israel and in the nations that join this end time war.

The glory of God will be manifest and the world will know. Out of this massive judgment will be a mighty visitation of Holy Ghost awakening. Joel settled the utter destruction of the Northern horde and promised the Latter Rain of God's Spirit. He said by the Holy Spirit, "But I will remove far off from you the northern army… Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things" (Joel 2:20a, 21). He added the Latter Rain promise two verses later, "He will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month" (Joel 2:23b). The first month is the Feast of Trumpets, the next unfulfilled feast of Israel. It is also a Jewish type for the coming Rapture of Christ's Bride.

We are living in the golden age of the prophetic finishing of all things. Keep your eyes on the Holy Scripture and your heart in total surrender to the Lordship of our Savior and Captain, Jesus Christ.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: bible; endtimes; gog; israel; magog; prophecy; rapture
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To: tjd1454
"Thank you for sharing your experience."

Thank you. I wasn't my personal experience, though, it was that of Don Matzat, a Luthern pastor.

"I advise anyone seriously interested in biblical prophecy to clear their bookshelves of the sensationalist prophecy books and take an unbiased look at what the Bible actually says."

I agree. For instance: [...] Daniel 7:13-14: "I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

With this passage we return to the main subject of our eschatology project. We know that the Son of Man envisioned here is Christ.

What should be especially noted for our purposes is the Son of Man's mode of transportation, and the direction he is going in.

The Son of Man is riding with "the clouds of heaven" (the LXX has the Son of Man actually "on" the clouds) and heading towards the Ancient of Days to be enthroned.

[...]

Daniel 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

We believe that this refers to the established rule of Christ in 70 AD and will address this matter, again, in our Olivet study.

With this Daniel 7 comes to a close, but there are a few more verses we need to consider. Our study continues in Daniel 9, with part of the "70 weeks" prophecy. Daniel 9:24-27 is of concern:

[....]

The dispensational paradigm holds that this 70th week is on hold until a future time called the Tribulation. I disagree. ...

..Gerhard Hasel in a study for Andrews University Seminary Studies titled "The Hebrew Masculine Plural For 'Weeks'..." notes that the grammar of the verse is done in a way that is "purposeful and by design so as to stress the unitary whole, the totality, and the completeness" of the 70 week block. The weeks "cannot be split apart in such a way as to separate the final 'one week' " as dispensationalists require. [....]

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141 posted on 01/12/2009 7:49:05 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("Every free act transcends matter, which is why any form of materialism is anti-liberty" - Gagdad)
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To: norge

“Matchett, I enjoyed your recounting of the “pre-mil” evolution.” ~ norge

Thank you!


142 posted on 01/12/2009 7:52:25 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("Every free act transcends matter, which is why any form of materialism is anti-liberty" - Gagdad)
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To: HailReagan78

“Thanks for posting that!! Its scary how widely accepted the rapture doctrine has become , as a result of faulty teaching by the churches, the Left Behind series etc..” ~ HailReagan78

You’re welcome. I agree.

For those interested:

“Eons ago I recall getting from a “turn or burn” relative one of those neat brochures that outlined an interpretation of the book of Revelation with pictures of people being “raptured” and trucks and cars and planes crashing as souls flew out of the driver’s/pilot’s places. I have of course read my Hal Lindsey, but since taking a more scholarly bent to my studies, haven’t thought much about it. I have said to others, if the parousia comes in my lifetime, it shall find me either asleep or in a library somewhere. The subject was of that little concern to me.

But it has become clear that certain questions dealing with eschatology, in particular the questions, “Did Jesus predict a soon return? Did the Apostles expect a soon return?”, have become grist for the skeptical and critical mill. Of course we know well that skeptics of the caliber of say, Farrell Till, are about as likely to understand what they are reading as they are to understand quantum physics. But I have corresponded with at least one person who has said that they were “losing their faith” over this very question, and I am sure others exist as well. [...]”

Continued:

Essays on Eschatology
James Patrick Holding
http://www.tektonics.org/esch/eschatology.html


143 posted on 01/12/2009 8:11:17 AM PST by Matchett-PI ("Every free act transcends matter, which is why any form of materialism is anti-liberty" - Gagdad)
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To: topcat54
Except the problem is that it has already happened (Ezekiel 38&39).

I must have missed that in history class. Exactly when did the Russian and German armies invade Israel from the north and suffer nuclear annihilation with a 7 year cleanup period by the Israelis?

144 posted on 01/12/2009 8:37:01 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Elsie

It will always be the same some are so mired in Tradition of Men all they can echo is a variations of from their repetor which plays over and over johnny one note!

There is no reply of why their Tradition of Men have substance or value!


145 posted on 01/12/2009 8:45:08 AM PST by restornu
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To: Lee N. Field

http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3652540,00.html


146 posted on 01/12/2009 10:07:16 AM PST by kingpins9
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To: PleaseNoMore

Boy, you sure do like to jump to conclusions. I’m done debating with someone like you. Good day.


147 posted on 01/12/2009 10:09:00 AM PST by kingpins9
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To: Cvengr; Matchett-PI; Lee N. Field
I must have missed that in history class.

No doubt.

Exactly when did the Russian and German armies invade Israel from the north and suffer nuclear annihilation with a 7 year cleanup period by the Israelis?

That’s funny. Thanks for the humorous thought for the day.

148 posted on 01/12/2009 10:51:10 AM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: Just mythoughts
I am sorry I cannot follow your interpretations .... I have no clue what Scriptures you use except one.

I wasn’t the one trying to relate Paul and Babylon or Saddam. Maybe that is the core area of confusion.

Now do you hold that in Christ Jesus there is neither male nor female? Or do you think the male still has the superior role?

Note the context in Gal. 3:28,29 and tell me what you think.

149 posted on 01/12/2009 10:55:35 AM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: restornu

Well...

Just WHO cannot agree with that!


150 posted on 01/12/2009 11:08:47 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bmwcyle
It was to show thedispensational model of prophecy in a picture. It seems you have not settled with God yet. I am here to settle nothing.

Fixed it.

You do know by now, don't you, that there are different interpretations? I gave a link to one, upthread.

In what way do you think I have not "settled with God"? Read this on "making it personal".

151 posted on 01/12/2009 11:13:41 AM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: Matchett-PI
" notes that the grammar of the verse is done in a way that is "purposeful and by design so as to stress the unitary whole, the totality, and the completeness" of the 70 week block. The weeks "cannot be split apart in such a way as to separate the final 'one week' " as dispensationalists require. [....]

Ohhh. That had to hurt. :-).

152 posted on 01/12/2009 11:16:27 AM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: kingpins9
When you say "cast lead operation", I think of something like this.


153 posted on 01/12/2009 11:21:13 AM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: Matchett-PI
Come again? :)

We have been cheated, and hornswoggled into becoming unpaid cheerleaders for the other team. As an orthodox Christian of the Reformed flavor, I anticipate, with all of God's people, a final resurrection and the life everlasting, Amen. With the soberest and sanest of all God's people, I also view the Olivet Discourse and John's Revelation as prophecy -- to the generation that first read them, and as a record of fulfilled prophecy for us. My eschatology is summarized neatly by I Cor. 15:25-35, a meditation on Psalm 110 (the most frequently quoted, cited, and referenced OT chapter in all the NT). Jesus is ruling now, subduing His enemies one by one, just as he subdued you and me. He has commanded us and empowered us to bring the nations to heel. The future is filled with opportunities to glorify God and to rejoice in His victories over all comers. And we have a piece of the action. We can do something more than grab the popcorn and beach chairs, then sit back to watch the train wreck.

154 posted on 01/12/2009 11:34:41 AM PST by RJR_fan (Winners and lovers shape the future. Whiners and losers TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
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To: topcat54

Don’t know that its already happened in the past, I did read most of that article you(?) posted and found the future date pretty compelling. I’ve not researched it yet but its definitely interesting.

JB


155 posted on 01/12/2009 11:53:02 AM PST by thatjoeguy (Just my thoughts)
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To: topcat54
I am sorry I cannot follow your interpretations .... I have no clue what Scriptures you use except one.

I wasn’t the one trying to relate Paul and Babylon or Saddam. Maybe that is the core area of confusion.

Paul was predestined to be the writer of the majority of the New Testament and no other writer of the New Testament had the 'core' education of the OLD from which to pen the so called NEW. Hey we, you and I are about to find out just how important it is to consider that 'OLD' relevant in these days. I plan to be as prepared given how many times these New Testament writers quoted that supposed 'OLD'.

Old Saddam miscalculated in his goal to reenact old Neb the first noted king of Babylon, but hey his bricks and mortar of recreating that 'ancient' city still stand as the coalition left the majority intact. Maybe Germany can be convinced to return that Ishtar gate for some 'egg' rolling.

Now do you hold that in Christ Jesus there is neither male nor female? Or do you think the male still has the superior role?

Note the context in Gal. 3:28,29 and tell me what you think.

NOT an answer to the question presented. I know the men of this age view the women as chatters to be silent and not nearly of the standing of the men.

156 posted on 01/12/2009 12:05:22 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Cvengr
I must have missed that in history class. Exactly when did the Russian and German armies invade Israel from the north and suffer nuclear annihilation with a 7 year cleanup period by the Israelis?

I must have missed it too.

157 posted on 01/12/2009 1:09:27 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Just mythoughts
NOT an answer to the question presented. I know the men of this age view the women as chatters to be silent and not nearly of the standing of the men.

The answer is in the context of the passage cited. Can you interpret the text?

I'm just curious whether you are searching or plain argumentative.

158 posted on 01/12/2009 1:59:22 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: Lee N. Field; Matchett-PI
Ohhh. That had to hurt. :-).

No one ever accused them of sound exegesis.

159 posted on 01/12/2009 2:00:51 PM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: Matchett-PI
"purposeful and by design so as to stress the unitary whole, the totality, and the completeness" of the 70 week block. The weeks "cannot be split apart in such a way as to separate the final 'one week' " as dispensationalists require. [....]

Seventy sevens == ten jubilees. "When the time had fully come."

160 posted on 01/12/2009 3:42:49 PM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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