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50 Reasons Why We Are Living In The End Times: Part 1
Lamb and Lion Ministries Blog ^ | 13 JULY 2009 | Dr. David R. Reagan

Posted on 07/25/2009 2:40:04 AM PDT by Quix

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To: Quix; raynearhood; Lee N. Field; Alex Murphy; Frumanchu; Dr. Eckleburg
He's a scam artist.
"To the skeptic who says that Christ is not comingsoon [sic], I would ask him to put the book of Revelationin [sic]one hand, and the daily newspaper in the other,and then sincerely ask God to show him where weare [sic]on His prophetic time-clock." -Hal Lindsey, "There's a New World Coming" ( Rapture Ready Who’s Who in Prophecy)
The only folks who would comes to Hal’s conclusion are theological illiterates who have already been duped by the false hermeneutics of dispensationalism.
161 posted on 07/27/2009 6:11:40 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: topcat54

Thanks for bumping the thread.

And displays of ignorant rubber Bible’d hideousness is always a good contrast to the truths I post on such threads.

Much appreciated.


162 posted on 07/27/2009 6:24:59 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Any opportunity to present solid biblical truth in the midst of outright dispensational nonsense (handwaving, obfuscation, and name-calling) is always a welcome thing.

It gives folks the chance to see the difference between the two systems; one built soldily on the Bible alone, and the house-of-cards built on the recent traditions of men like Darby and Scofield, Hal Lindsey and Edgar Whisenant.


163 posted on 07/27/2009 6:30:58 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: Quix; topcat54
Both the pre-trib and post-trib camps have a lot of splaining to do in order to harmonize Matthew 24 & 25. In my view, both camps have serious Scriptural hurdles to overcome in those two chapters, not to mention other places in Scripture.

Eschatology is an exciting topic, but it is not one that should cause division in the Body of Christ. We can all agree to disagree, because I'm sure when the end comes we will all be surprised how it unfolds.

JM
164 posted on 07/27/2009 6:32:24 AM PDT by JohnnyM
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To: topcat54; Lee N. Field
Hal Lindsey, the consummate scammer within dispensaitonal circles
Hal Lindsey is currently married to his fourth wife, having divorced his previous three. On the back cover of the sixth printing of his 1974 book, There's a New World Coming, is a picture of Lindsey with his second wife, Jan. (Jan is the mother of Hal's three grown daughters.) He also dedicates the book to "my best pal, my wife Jan ..." However, "best pal" Jan is gone from the back cover of the book's 1984 "updated" edition, as is the dedication to her. A later Lindsey' book, Planet Earth--2000 A.D. (18 million in circulation as of 1/95), carries a picture of Hal and his third wife, Kim, who is approximately 25 years his junior. (Kim is the sister of author Johanna Michaelsen, and the sister-in-law of Tetelestai Center's Associate Pastor, Randy Michaelsen.) After dumping Kim, Hal is now married to wife #4, JoLyn, a member of Tetelestai and in a Bible class taught by Lindsey when she was evidently "discovered" by Hal.
-- excerpt from an article on Lindsey found at Biblical Discernment Ministries
See also Hal Lindsey's There's A New Wife Coming
165 posted on 07/27/2009 6:54:01 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("I always longed for repose and quiet" - John Calvin)
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To: JohnnyM; Quix; raynearhood; Lee N. Field; Alex Murphy; Frumanchu; Dr. Eckleburg
Eschatology is an exciting topic, but it is not one that should cause division in the Body of Christ. We can all agree to disagree, because I'm sure when the end comes we will all be surprised how it unfolds.

Especially those looking for a "second chance" for certain people based on ethnicity.

166 posted on 07/27/2009 7:00:22 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: Quix

BTTT


167 posted on 07/27/2009 7:14:04 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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The OP begins by mentioning Matthew 24:13 and quoting 1 Thess. 5:2-6 where the phrase “a thief in the night” is used to describe Christ’s return, aka “the day of the Lord”.
1 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, "Peace and safety!" then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief. 5 You are all sons of light and sons of the day. We are not of the night nor of darkness. (1 Thess. 5)

The irony here is that the dispensational premil system is undermined by a careful comparison of Scripture with Scripture, i.e., 1 Thess 5: and:

9 The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, F10 not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. (2 Peter 3)
According the Peter, the “day of the Lord” introduces the new heavens and new earth. This is the day that Christ returns to judge the world. There is no time period between 1 Thess. 5 and 2 Peter 3. The language is unambiguous. They are the same event.

The validity of the other (nonsensical) 50 points is completely undermined by a careful examination of the opening assertion and demonstration of how it fails to be true from the Bible alone.

168 posted on 07/27/2009 7:17:54 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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Hal Lindsey is currently married to his fourth wife, having divorced his previous three.
Hal Lindsey is a giant in the world of Bible Prophecy. During the early eighties, the New York Times hailed Hal Lindsey with the honorable title " The Jeremiah of Today ". ( Rapture Ready Who’s Who in Prophecy)

What an insult. I don’t think the career of Jeremiah of the Bible was characterized by multiple wives and ungoldly divorces.

169 posted on 07/27/2009 7:23:09 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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Even dispensationalists recognize the heresy of arguing for the reinstitution of Levitical animal sacrifices.

I wouldn't count on it.

One of the things that got me looking into it, 4 or 5 years ago, was hearing some pretty outrageous things coming from a prophecy pundit. What I heard didn't necessarily have to do with "bible prophecy", but was perfectly consistent with dispensationalism's axiomatic radical church/Israel distinction.

170 posted on 07/27/2009 7:23:15 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalists say the darndest things!")
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One of the things that got me looking into it, 4 or 5 years ago, was hearing some pretty outrageous things coming from a prophecy pundit. What I heard didn't necessarily have to do with "bible prophecy", but was perfectly consistent with dispensationalism's axiomatic radical church/Israel distinction.

Many ministries that have dispensationalism as a characteristic are plagued by additional heretical constructs. E.g., John Hagee’s dual covenantalism, TD Jakes’ oneness/neo-arianism.

171 posted on 07/27/2009 7:34:07 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: topcat54

NONSENSE.

RUBBER BIBLED DENIAL OF GOD’S SCRPTURAL TRUTHS is one of the WORST foundations for anything remotely good.

BTW . . . re “name calling,” who have I called psychotic even indirectly, much less directly? Last I noticed, the REPLACEMENTARIAN accusation is still there.


172 posted on 07/27/2009 7:53:00 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JohnnyM

Certainly the full unfolding will leave all of us surprised, imho.

I don’t think anyone has THE RAPTURE all figured out.

It still appears to me that the Pre-Trib folks have the BETTER Scriptural argument.


173 posted on 07/27/2009 7:54:18 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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I’m sure Father God is quite impressed with all the Hal rock throwing.

Perhaps He’s building a gilded rock wall around some Heavenly estates with the spent rocks.

/sar


174 posted on 07/27/2009 7:55:42 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

NONSENSE.

NO SUCH THING.

THE PROMISES OF ALMIGHTY GOD TO THE CHILDREN OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB ARE BUILT

ON GOD ALMIGHTY’S WORD, HIS EVERLASTING PROMISES TO HIS BUDDY ABRAHAM.

That’s more than sufficient foundation.

Idiotic brazen distortions of Biblical fact by the Rubber Bible Brigade are simply utter nonsense.


175 posted on 07/27/2009 7:57:19 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: antisocial

Thanks.

God’s best to you and yours.


176 posted on 07/27/2009 7:57:44 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

Thanks for bumping the thread.

The RUBBER BIBLE GROPING is laughable but at least it bumps the thread.


177 posted on 07/27/2009 7:58:29 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

Looks like another fireside sale was found on

‘holy rocks’ for
‘sanctified rock throwing!’

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

IMPRESSIVE!

/s


178 posted on 07/27/2009 7:59:57 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Lee N. Field

Thanks for bumping the thread.

There’s ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

radical about

TRUSTING GOD’S UNRUBBERIZED WORD to be fulfilled to the letter.

God typically honors such trust and disciplines lack of such trust.


179 posted on 07/27/2009 8:01:11 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

Thanks for the thread bump.

And for a new twist to the RUBBER BIBLE GROPING.


180 posted on 07/27/2009 8:01:55 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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