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The Bigger Scandal: Catholic Church Funding of ACORN
AIM ^ | 09/22/2009 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 09/24/2009 4:28:24 AM PDT by iowamark

The evidence of Catholic collaboration with Marxist and “progressive” networks is substantial.

Federal funding of ACORN is not just a Democratic Party or Obama Administration problem. As a chart (PDF) produced by House Republican Leader John Boehner shows, most of the federal money going to the organization was provided under President George W. Bush. This is not something that most Republicans want to talk about, especially now that they can use ACORN funding as a weapon against Obama and the Democrats. To Boehner's credit, however, he had sent a letter to Bush asking him to block all federal funding of ACORN. The Bush Administration did not comply.

While Obama has strong ties to ACORN, they were originally established through the U.S. Catholic Church, which has also funded ACORN and similar organizations to the tune of millions of dollars. This is another taboo topic for most of the media.  Even conservative news organizations are afraid of raising the issue, apparently fearing being tagged with the "anti-Catholic" label...

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
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Kincaid may make some mistakes here, particularly about the friendliness of Pope Benedict for Obama, but he has some valid points. Pre-1960's the US Catholic Church was the strongest anti-Communist force in America. Since 1960, the Church has many Leftist infiltrators.
1 posted on 09/24/2009 4:28:25 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark
The Bush Administration did not comply.

Well, we can either chastise him for that or praise him for giving ACORN enough rope to hang themselves.

2 posted on 09/24/2009 4:36:32 AM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: iowamark

I went to Catholic school in suburban Maryland. I transferred to public school just in time for the Vietnam Mobilization stuff. I discovered that my public-school classmates were all against the war in part because they literally did not know what Communism was. They were convinced that it was a complete fiction. This would be 16-17-year-olds in 1970,


3 posted on 09/24/2009 4:43:34 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward KennedyÂ’s America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: iowamark

In their quest to help the poor and downtrodden, the CC has overlooked/ignored the law of many a land. Supporting ACORN was just a *natural* progression for them and ACORN was more glad to slip into that role.


4 posted on 09/24/2009 4:47:25 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: iowamark

I became a Roman Catholic 8 years ago after studying Catholic dogma and theology. However, I did notice that many of the so-called charitable organizations that my parish supported were Marxist. I don’t believe for a second that the good people in my parish really understood that they were supporting Marxist organizations. Marxists cloak themselves in the kind of rhetoric that gullible Christians would find appealing.


5 posted on 09/24/2009 4:51:10 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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“Pre-1960’s the US Catholic Church was the strongest anti-Communist force in America. Since 1960, the Church has many Leftist infiltrators.”
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Sorry, but your ignorance totally destroys all credibility. The Catholic Church, and the Pope himself, played a key role in the Solidarity movement in Poland in the late 70’s and 80’s. Solidarity was the bigggest domino that felled global communism. It seems you have an anti-Catholic agenda that blinds you from fact, but doesn’t keep you from spreading hate-filled lies.


6 posted on 09/24/2009 4:58:54 AM PDT by awake-n-angry
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To: iowamark

Don’t know if this link will work or not but here’s a good video on Obama’s Catholic Plan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVN2MMuiedI&feature=player_embedded


7 posted on 09/24/2009 4:59:15 AM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: randog

It would seem to me Bush’s involvement with ACORN can be explained by the growing relationship he had with the Roman Catholic Church over his eight years as President.


8 posted on 09/24/2009 5:35:18 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: awake-n-angry

Calm down. I was clearly referring to the US Catholic Church, not the Polish.


9 posted on 09/24/2009 5:36:33 AM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: iowamark

Doesn’t ACRIME support abortion?? It could be that they had lots of charities fooled into thinking they were a community outreach, now they know.

Pray for America


10 posted on 09/24/2009 5:59:26 AM PDT by bray (He's a Divider not a Uniter)
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11 posted on 09/24/2009 6:03:49 AM PDT by narses
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To: iowamark
While Obama has strong ties to ACORN, they were originally established through the U.S. Catholic Church, which has also funded ACORN and similar organizations to the tune of millions of dollars. This is another taboo topic for most of the media. Even conservative news organizations are afraid of raising the issue, apparently fearing being tagged with the "anti-Catholic" label...

I'm not afraid of it...but then again I'm Catholic. :)

Find out who is giving ACORN money and let's put a stop to it right now. I'm betting it's usually not the bishops themselves but quasi-diocesan organizations--like Catholic Charities or something. The come into the parish give a big spiel about helping the poor, second collection, yadda yadda, and people give money. People just trust if Father lets them come in they must be legit.

Go ahead and break the story, news orgs. Forget this anti-Catholic hogwash and do your job. Catholics will get mad--but because our money got wasted, not because the Church is under attack.

12 posted on 09/24/2009 6:10:36 AM PDT by Claud
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To: iowamark
Apparently AIM did not read this, published yesterday. CCHD is the acronym for Catholic Campaign for Human Development:

CCHD first came under serious scrutiny last year for their contributions to the scandal-ridden group ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). Last June, they reported that the funding of grants to ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) groups has been cut off “because of questions that arose about financial management, fiscal transparency and organizational accountability of the national ACORN structures.”

Critics Call for Defunding Catholic Campaign for Human Development

In fact I remember when our Archbishop in Milwaukee pulled funding from ACORN last year before the election, so this effort of the Catholic Church to extricate itself from some of these Marxist organizations has been on-going for a while in some quarters.

But, the point is well taken. Check out all charities before you give. You may be surprised where they funnel your donations.

13 posted on 09/24/2009 6:16:21 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: awake-n-angry; iowamark

You wrote:

“Sorry, but your ignorance totally destroys all credibility. The Catholic Church, and the Pope himself, played a key role in the Solidarity movement in Poland in the late 70’s and 80’s.”

Excuse me, but where in the following statement made by iowamark did he say anything that contradicts what you say? He wrote: “Pre-1960’s the US Catholic Church was the strongest anti-Communist force in America. Since 1960, the Church has many Leftist infiltrators.”

First, please note, he is talking about the Catholic Church in AMERICA, and not Poland. Second, he is undeniably correct. In the 1950s, the Catholic Church - worldwide but especially in America - was entirely opposed to communism. All one has to do is look at the writings of Bishop Fulton Sheen to see that. In the 1960s - again worldwide - a tramatic change took place. In around 1970 one Catholic seminary in Rome even flew the hammer and sickle!!!

“Solidarity was the bigggest domino that felled global communism.”

No. Not even remotely close. Solidarity really operated ONLY in Poland. How could a trade union in Poland topple GLOBAL communism? Reagan, our massive arms build up, the failing Soviet war in Afghanistan AND the activities of Pope John II AND the daring resistance put up by beleagured peoples in Eastern Europe all came together to topple the USSR and its East Block allies.

“It seems you have an anti-Catholic agenda that blinds you from fact, but doesn’t keep you from spreading hate-filled lies.”

What hate filled lies EXACTLY? The simple fact is that many so-called Catholci charities are NOTHING but Marxist fronts these days. That’s because the spirit of Dorothy Day is DEAD. She was a Christian FIRST AND FOREMOST and served God through helping laborers and the poor. Today, many people directly involved in Catholic Charities across the US are essentially marxists, always vote for Democrats, are de facto pro-choice, pro-contraception, racist (against whites), pro-gay, etc. Those are just the facts. You can see this being played out in diocese after diocese where bishops - the good ones - are having significant problems pulling there charities offices back to orthodoxy.

Iowamark is right on the money.

Example:

Published: November 3, 2008

Keeping Catholic charities Catholic
Vatican dispatches cardinal to meet with U.S. bishops on proper role of Church’s humanitarian agencies

Vatican City, (CNA) — Cardinal Paul Josef Cordes, president of the Pontifical Council Cor Unum, is scheduled to meet with U.S. bishops to speak about the need to maintain the Catholic identity of the charitable outreach of the Church.

The president of the council, who in effect oversees all of the Church’s charitable activities, will travel to the United States to meet with the bishops during their November 10-13 meeting in Baltimore.

The overriding concern of Cardinal Cordes’ address to the bishops will be to stress that Catholic charities cannot see themselves as philanthropies since their aim as Catholic institutions must be to offer the supreme act of charity, the announcing of the Gospel.

The cardinal, along with the directors of Catholic Charities, USA and Catholic Relief Services, will focus their discussions on Pope Benedict XVI’s encyclical, “God Is Love.”
Cardinal Cordes’ visit with the bishops comes in the wake of a branch of Catholic Charities being involved in an abortion in Virginia and the Catholic Campaign for Human Development having to withdraw funding from the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).

During his seven-day stay, Cardinal Cordes will also give conferences on charity in the archdioceses of New York, Denver and Newark, New Jersey. While in New Jersey, the prelate will receive a doctorate “honoris causa” from Seton Hall University, the oldest Catholic diocesan university in the United States.

http://www.calcatholic.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?id=7ffa7314-4074-4526-afc3-b6f28f0627f1

Some amazing info: http://www.catholicmediacoalition.org/catholic_charities_da_vinci.htm

Catholic Charities refuses to oppose Obamacare: http://www.tldm.org/News13/CatholicCharitiesRefusesToOpposeHealthCareBill.htm


14 posted on 09/24/2009 6:16:37 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Rum Tum Tugger

“Marxists cloak themselves in the kind of rhetoric that gullible Christians would find appealing.”

SATAN cloaks himself in the kind of rhetoric that gullible Christians would find appealing.


15 posted on 09/24/2009 6:43:50 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: vladimir998

OMG, more anti-Catholic hate. s


16 posted on 09/24/2009 6:45:21 AM PDT by xone
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To: iowamark

The Catholic Church was destroyed by V II!


17 posted on 09/24/2009 7:06:08 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: iowamark
Old story.

U.S. Bishops Cut All Funding to ACORN, Activities Funded Hard to Determine
Bishop discusses reasons behind cutoff of ACORN funding
Catholic Church drops ACORN funding

18 posted on 09/24/2009 7:56:09 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Yes, the Church cut off funding for ACORN. The reason given was that some of the ACORN leaders were stealing the money. It seems to me, however, that it’s a good thing that they WERE stealing the money, because any money that was “properly” used was completely destructive.

But what I’m hoping is that, having cut off funding, and now having heard about all these scandals, they will make the cutoff permanent.

ACORN is not the only destructive left-wing “charity” that is funded by Church donations. The Southern Poverty Law Center once sent a “missionary” to speak in our pulpit maybe 15 or 20 years ago, for instance. The bishops tend to get conned by these leftist organizations claiming to help the poor. And the lay people who staff the diocesan charities tend to lean left.

But I’m hoping that at least support of ACORN will now be permanently ended.


19 posted on 09/24/2009 8:37:11 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Salvation

The Catholic Church was prudent to cut off funding to ACORN.

I wonder if protestants and other supporters of the Save the Children and ChildFund International scams, where 20% or more of the donations are pocketed by the organizations in salaries and “expenses”, will cut off funding for those scam organizations.


20 posted on 09/24/2009 4:39:05 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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