Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

This thread has been locked, it will not receive new replies.
Locked on 12/21/2009 4:58:04 PM PST by Admin Moderator, reason:

Childish behavior.



Skip to comments.

Vatican guilty of unholy compassion for paedophiles
the post.ie ^ | 20 December 2009 | Vincent Browne

Posted on 12/20/2009 3:22:36 PM PST by Alex Murphy

In 1922, the Vatican promulgated an instruction to do with what it called crimen solicitationis (the crime of solicitation within the confessional) and what it called the ‘‘worst crime’’ - the sexual abuse of children. The document was issued in Latin. No authoritative version was produced in English.

The document was circulated only to bishops and under terms of strict secrecy.

A new version of the guidelines was produced in 1962, but this, according to the Murphy Commission, was unknown within the Dublin diocese until some time in the 1990s.

Desmond Connell, the former archbishop, told the commission he had never seen the 1962 document, nor had he met anyone who had seen it.

John Dolan, the chancellor of the diocese and a monsignor, whose job is to ensure that the administrative records of the diocese are kept safe, said he didn’t know that ‘‘lurking in the very end, at the very back [of the decree crimen solicitationis], was a little paragraph on the ‘‘worst crime’’.

He was unaware of the 1962 document until an Australian bishop discovered towards the end of the 1990s that it was still valid. Until then, he did not know of any guidelines by the Vatican on the issue of clerical child sexual abuse.

The Murphy Commission commented on how ‘‘unusual’’ it was, ‘‘whereby a document setting out the procedure for dealing with clerical child sexual abuse was in existence but virtually no one knew about it or used it’’.

In 1996, victims of clerical abuse hounded the bishops into devising a ‘framework document’, setting out guidelines for dealing with allegations of abuse. John Dolan said: ‘‘They [the authors of the framework document] did not feel Rome was supporting them in dealing with this issue ... they were meeting an onslaught of complaints, and Rome was pulling any particular solid ground that they had from under them’’.

The 1922 and 1962 Vatican instructions on dealing with allegations of clerical child sex abuse demanded absolute secrecy in the conduct of investigations. T he secrecy was so pervasive that, to some, it seemed to demand that the complaint also be kept secret from the state authorities.

Cannon 1341 states that the bishop is to ‘‘start a judicial administrative procedure, for the imposition or the declaration of penalties, only when he perceives that neither by fraternal correction nor reproof, nor by any methods of pastoral care, can the scandal be sufficiently repaired, justice restored, and the offender reformed’’.

The Murphy Commission notes: ‘‘This canon was interpreted to mean that bishops are required to attempt to reform the abusers in the first place." In Dublin, efforts were made to reform abusing priests by sending them to therapeutic centres. But, according to the commission, ‘‘the archdiocese seems to have been reluctant to go beyond the reform process, even when it was abundantly clear that the reform process had failed’’.

But, more tellingly, the commission stated they ‘‘could find very little evidence, particularly in the early decades of the commission’s remit, of any attempt by church authorities to restore justice to the victims’’.

I t says the question of harm to the victims never seemed to have been considered by the archdiocese.

In considering whether a person is guilty of the ‘‘worst crime’’, canon law states a person must have ‘‘deliberately’’ violated the canon law. In considering the issue of guilt under canon law, the Canon Law Society of Britain and Ireland has commented: ‘‘Among the factors which may seriously diminish their imputability (guilt) in such cases (cases of clerical child sexual abuse) is paedophilia ...

‘‘Those who have studied this matter in detail have concluded that proven paedophiles are often subjected to urges and impulses which are in effect beyond their control .. .because of the influence of paedophilia (the abuser) may not be liable, by reason of at least diminished immutability (guilt) to any canonical penalty or perhaps to only a mild penalty, to a formal warning or reproof or to a penal remedy."

The commission says it ‘‘finds it a matter of grave concern that, under canon law, a serial child abuser might receive more favourable treatment from the archdiocese or from Rome, by reason of the fact that he was diagnosed as a paedophile’’.

What all this says is that the issue is not just a matter of negligence or complicity in clerical child sexual abuse on the part of individual bishops - it is the culture of the Catholic Church, a culture shaped by the church authorities in Rome and transmitted and refined in dioceses.

A culture that hides the Church’s own guidelines concerning what it itself rhetorically said was the ‘‘worst crime’’; that caused the Vatican authorities to pull the ground from priests who were trying to draft guidelines on abuse; that prioritises the abusers over the abused; that has been essentially indifferent to the harm caused to abuse victims; that regards paedophiles as objects of sympathy and compassion.

A few more episcopal resignations, with a presumption that these settle the matter, is just a continuance of the culture of denial of the Catholic Church’s institutional and cultural complicity in the criminality of clerical child sexual abuse.

The Holy Roman and Apostolic Church is the problem.


TOPICS: Catholic; History; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: catholic; ireland; murphycommission; murphyreport; paedophilia; romancatholics
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-69 last
To: Iscool
Well maybe you have to spell it correctly

Not my spelling. I copied and pasted from the article.

61 posted on 12/21/2009 4:02:35 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy
Thanks for the info, Mark. There's a whole lot of [excommmunicated] FReeper Catholics out there who'd rather denounce me than denounce their own priests, based on their own posting history.

There are a bunch of people either within or on the fringes of the Church who are heinous sinners and have done great harm to others. I've never denied that, and neither have the serious Catholics.

62 posted on 12/21/2009 4:04:34 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: fours
I have to say this is a hilarious epic Google search FAIL and completely your fault!

I'd check the meds first before blurting this out to the world. Point the first: it is a quote from the article. Point the second: I am a lifelong Catholic and know how to spell Canon. Point the third: there is a certain absurdity to the article which claims secrecy, yet it went out to every individual above the rank of priest in both East and West.

Thank you for your spelling and Google search tips, though I think that I shall make it quite adequately through my Internet searches without your most excellent advice.

63 posted on 12/21/2009 4:10:50 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies]

To: Petronski
Code of Cannon Law? Is that indexed by ordnance?

Do you have the balls to tell me this? Tell you what, I'll take a powder while you see if you (grape) shot your load. It may be more honoured in the breech, but we must barrel on.

64 posted on 12/21/2009 4:13:48 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: MarkBsnr
Here's a good place to start:

Report by Commission of Investigation into Catholic Archdiocese of Dublin

Part II is only 478 pages long! Altogether, about 682 pages.

65 posted on 12/21/2009 4:32:37 PM PST by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy

Alex Murphy:

Stop including me in ANY of your postings.

You’re an anti-Catholic bigot,

and although Free Republic gives you Free Reign,

I do NOT want to hear from you ANY time about ANYTHING.

Go get your jollies somewhere else with someone else.


66 posted on 12/21/2009 4:38:28 PM PST by TaxachusettsMan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Poe White Trash
Here's a good place to start: Report by Commission of Investigation into Catholic Archdiocese of Dublin

Thanks. I'll give it a look.

67 posted on 12/21/2009 4:44:19 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: Alex Murphy; Dr. Brian Kopp; TaxachusettsMan; Titanites; wagglebee; Coleus; Hacksaw; magisterium
The poster received multiple warnings from at least one moderator, >>>
 
How would you know if you weren't a moderator yourself???  Anyway, if that one moderator is you, then you are a liar and fraud, and if not, that moderator who told you this information is a liar and fraud..and that goes for any religion moderator who stated that I was "warned" multiple times....   I was not.
 
For the record I received one and only one freepmail from some insane religion moderator who stated that I must stop "the war" with a freeper named Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus.  (it's been 2 years, I think this is the freeper the mods. mentioned I was at war with).
 
I almost fell on my rear when I read that ridiculous FReepmail from one of the religion moderators for the reason that I NEVER knew, until then, that a  FReeper named Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus existed and that I was having a "war" with him...  I still can't get over that freepmail from the religion moderator, LOL... Granted, in 10 yrs. on the FR, I may have replied to a post or two without even noting who it was from, but a stated "war", give me a break.
 
This was the first time I saw the true colors of the FRee Republic in regards to the Catholic Religion.  For 6 years I was reading so many anti-Catholic threads, I couldn't take it any more.  And for one little month I decided to post some Protestant (including born-again Christians, fundamentalists, assemblies of God, southern Baptist, etc. they are all protestants) minister abuse threads and some Protestant Freepers went ballistic. 
 
It was the day that I was suspended for one week that I had another, my 2nd FReepmail, that the religion moderator stated he was "tired" of this crap and it had to stop....That's why I was rather surprised with the complaint & suspension by the moderator.  I was only warned ONCE about a so-called war with a freeper I never knew about and next I knew it I was suspended for "crap".
 
So, I ask again, what crap?  what tired you out so much?  the anti-Catholic crap for 6 years or the one little month of the threads I posted.  And why was this mod angry in the first place?  Were protestant freepers complaining?  I don't know.
 
If the mods wanted me to stop posting, they should have requested that. They did not.  I never received a FReepmail that I must STOP posting Protestant minister abuse threads.   They had a perceived notion that I was at war with a freeper I never knew and only ONCE told me to stop being at war with that particular freeper..
 
To this day, I still don't know what the heck they were talking about and don't know why I was prevented from posting Protestant minister abuse threads while Protestants can still post Catholic abuse threads.   
 
Catholics need not apply.  Catholics need not post minister abuse threads. 

68 posted on 12/21/2009 4:52:41 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Both sides were posting sex abuse articles about the other - some very old. It was a flame war being conducted by article posting and BOTH sides were instructed to stop it.


69 posted on 12/22/2009 8:54:10 PM PST by Religion Moderator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-69 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson