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American Christianity (a scathing critique)
You Tube ^ | Paul Washer

Posted on 12/30/2009 12:56:16 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

"I’m not troubled in my heart about your self-esteem. I’m not troubled in my heart about whether or not you feel good about yourself, whether or not life is turning out like you want it to turn out, or whether or not your checkbook is balanced. There’s only one thing that gave me a sleepless night. There’s only one thing that troubled me all throughout the morning..."

"Do you realize how much love it takes for me to stand before 5,000 people and tell you that that American Christianity is almost totally wrong?"

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: christianity; christianright; faith; paulwasher; salvation; whocanbesaved
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1 posted on 12/30/2009 12:56:19 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
"Do you realize how much love it takes for me to stand before 5,000 people and tell you that that American Christianity is almost totally wrong?"

Love? Sounds more like arrogance to me.

2 posted on 12/30/2009 12:58:15 PM PST by americanophile (Happy New Year to all!)
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Hi americanophile, don't you think it'd be more arrogant to not point out error and just try to go with the flow in order to be accepted by the majority? To say things only to gain popularity, prestige, and a spot on TV? I urge people to watch the video if you want to understand where he's coming from. It's only 4 minutes long.
3 posted on 12/30/2009 1:00:28 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
That's powerful.

Maybe he should put the rest of the world on hold and be a missionary in America.

4 posted on 12/30/2009 1:05:05 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
He's right!

Thanks for posting the vid

5 posted on 12/30/2009 1:06:14 PM PST by Fighting Irish ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Typical screed of someone selling something. It worked really well in the 19th century; there’s no reason they won’t buy it in the 21st.


6 posted on 12/30/2009 1:06:42 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama: The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Whaaooo

That was awesome.


7 posted on 12/30/2009 1:07:02 PM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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Full Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuabITeO4l8

8 posted on 12/30/2009 1:13:28 PM PST by Fighting Irish ("I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
I watched it...but his rantings about everyone going to hell and people wearing sensual clothing doesn't strike a chord with me, and the fact that he's doing it on youtube doesn't suggest he's any different than the preachers he seeks to condemn; he's looking for a following, same as them.
9 posted on 12/30/2009 1:13:51 PM PST by americanophile (Happy New Year to all!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I’ve never heard of this guy Paul Washer before, but he’s got it right.

Romans 4 speaks of salvation by faith and uses Abraham as an example. But look at the life of Abraham. His renowned faith was not an intellectual acknowledgement of God. His was an active, total-change-of-life, money-where-your-mouth-is, all-out daily walk. It was an active, obedient faith.

We live more as Laodiceans than as Philadelphians.

Thanks for posting.


10 posted on 12/30/2009 1:14:17 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

It’s a message we all need to hear sometimes. With God, there is no half stepping.


11 posted on 12/30/2009 1:18:46 PM PST by vpintheak (How can love of God, Family and Country make me an extremist?)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Hi Giovanna, that’s exactly what he’s doing even though he dreaded coming back to the states (after spending a decade in Peru)—as he’s disheartened by the materialism and the apathetic, cultural Christianity that has dominated the church in this country for so long. He is an evangelist and he sees his primary mission field to be composed of Christians (or those who believe theselves to be Christians) moreso than unbelievers.

It’s “Christians” that need to hear the real Gospel more than ever today. He’s pointsout that in America, it’s the church that needs reform. The church has lost its power because it’s become too worldly. It needs to be strengthened in the Word and become a better reflection of Christ—which means standing in stark contrast to our godless culture. Only then can we reach out to the unbelieving world.

Washer continues to travel frequently, namely Europe and Latin America. His home church is in Alabama, but his main ministry is the organization he founded called “Heartcry Missionaries.” His passion for Christ and to see Him glorified continues to challenge and convict my own standing in the faith. His sermons are on youtube if you want to hear more of his preaching. God bless!


12 posted on 12/30/2009 1:20:50 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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So he is saying these verses are wrong???

John 1:12 But to all who have received him—those who believe in his name—he has given the right to become God’s children

John 3:16-18 For this is the way God loved the world: he gave his one and only Son that everyone who believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.


13 posted on 12/30/2009 1:22:57 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Thanks for posting this....


14 posted on 12/30/2009 1:24:15 PM PST by Dallas
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Thanks for posting this....


15 posted on 12/30/2009 1:24:23 PM PST by Dallas
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Pardon me...he says you will not find anywhere in scripture about asking for Jesus to come into your life in prayer; he calls it the greatest heresy. I recall reading “Seek and you shall find, ask and you shall receive, knock and the door will be opened..”. Seeking, asking, and knocking are affirmative actions, not thoughts about faith. You are asking for Jesus to enter your life, and he said you had to do affirmative things for this to occur. Sorry, this guy is working an angle to an audience.


16 posted on 12/30/2009 1:31:23 PM PST by majormaturity
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Let’s get our priorities in order first and this preacher is not doing that.

A Christian’s **most** important and URGENT mission field is first himself. There is a reason the flight attendants tell us to put the oxygen mask on our own faces before helping others. We as Christians must **first** strengthen our own faith in Christ.

The next most important mission field is that of our **own** children! That means giving them an education the **fully** integrates our Christian faith with secular knowledge. This is IMPOSSIBLE to do in our secular humanist, Marxist, and atheistic government schools. Therefore,...Christians must get their kids out of the government schools. The statistics for Christian children attending government schools and remaining faithful are ABYSMAL!!! ( Yes, I have links.)

After this...A Christian’s next most important mission field is the children of his congregation. We are failing miserably in providing Christian schools for our Christian youth. In my opinion God will not be happy with many ministers who are too afraid to offend the many government schools workers sitting in their pews, or who are also themselves addicted to free government school babysitting.

Finally, we as Christians must work in our neighborhoods, then counties, cities, and states. We must look to our nation first. Only then should we be working in Romania or Peru. If the United States falls then the whole world will quickly fall into a 1,000 year or longer dark age of tyranny.


17 posted on 12/30/2009 1:32:16 PM PST by wintertime
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To: 2banana
The impression I got about that was that he was talking about people who just recite words with no real faith involved and no actual conviction of sin and no real repentance.

I think he is talking about those who claim to be Christians but conduct their lives like they not only never had a salvation experience but love this world and it's "delights" and have no interest at all in knowing Christ as savior.

18 posted on 12/30/2009 1:33:17 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: majormaturity
Hi majormaturity,

If we truly seek, ask, and knock to find Christ--the real Christ, then we'll learn through the Word that salvation as Washer reminds us, is by *FAITH* alone and that genuine faith is preceded by repentance--a turning away from sin. Genuine faith is followed and reflected by a life of repentance: a growing hatred for the things God hates (namely sin) and a growing in love for God and the things of God, such as righteousness and holiness. This doesn NOT mean instant perfection, but that there should be a genuine change in the heart of a believer after they are "born again" and that this change should be reflected in their life overall.

Many people in America think they can go on living like pagans, but that when they die they'll be in a better place because they go to church sometims or said a prayer when they were 8.

As Christ reminds us, believers are recognized by their fruit.

"You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit. A good tree can’t produce bad fruit, and a bad tree can’t produce good fruit. So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire. Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions." ~ Matthew 7 :16-20

19 posted on 12/30/2009 1:42:00 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege ("When I survey the wondrous cross...")
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The man is saying that it is your works that save you......false in its entirety.

Paul was “of this world” and one would have a hard time convincing me that he wasn’t saved by the grace of God. “All things are lawful but not all things are helpful (expedient).” Paul in discussing the idea that The Law is passed away and that grace is sufficient.

the scripture is clear, “...He came once, for all.” Not for some not for those who believe Washer but for everyone.


20 posted on 12/30/2009 1:43:06 PM PST by the long march
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