WHO REALLY IS 'ANTI-CATHOLIC?'

Alpha and Omega Ministries ^ | 1-23-10 | James Swan

[SoothingDave]

But you know that you, that is, you, know you are saved?

No doubts for you, that is, you, are OK?

[wmfights]

Our dispute is whether, once the Spirit is given, whether we can screw it up so much that the Spirit leaves.

This is such a great example of how your church fell back into law and tradition. If you believe The Gospel the Holy Spirit will not desert you. If it did you would be making a liar of our Savior Jesus Christ.

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever -

[wmfights]

Amen

Nothing to add, but Amen!

[editor-surveyor]

" Mary doesn’t get to be described as the Spouse of the Holy Spirit?
Even though they had a baby together."

Vile blasphemy! - Your fingers should fall off and be eaten by dogs for typing it.

[narses]

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[Petronski]

That’s a sweeping statement, and all you have as proof is your own personal (crackpot) interpretation of Scripture.

“Failing” by YOUR standard is for me a badge of honor. I’ll take the Church founded by Christ over your blather any day of the week.

[Lil Flower]

I will say that I wish I had not allowed myself to get involved in this post. I have read all the way through it and it amazes me how Christians will absolutely fight amongst themselves when the real enemy we face is Islam.
And fundamentalist in Islam would not bother to delineate between Catholic, Protestant,etc. They would lop our heads off simply because we are Christians.

[the_conscience]

“Therefore there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it is through the flesh, God did sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin.”

[SoothingDave]

If by “law and tradition” you mean paying attention, you might be in trouble.

We all have temptations. God doesn’t pick some people and magically prevent them from making profits. Instead, we have to proceed with America.

[wmfights]

(The arrogance of believing that what we do in our life is irrelevant is amazing. )

Do you see how arrogant it is to think your works will earn you salvation?

[SoothingDave]

Investigate “presumption.”

[Petronski]

Luke 1:35

[verity]

Vile blasphemy! - Your fingers should fall off and be eaten by dogs for typing it.

lol

[editor-surveyor]

"I worship in the Catholic Church."

There's your problem; He's not there!

Real Christians worship in the spirit; God doesn't live in boxes made with hands.

[Petronski]

Do you see how arrogant it is to think your works will earn you salvation?

Not works alone. No works alone earn salvation.

[SoothingDave]

Did I say that my works will earn me salvation?

Are you arguing against what I say, or just some straw man?

My offer from before still is open? Let;s have at least two people on FR disagree, but not hate each other.

[Petronski]

The Catholic Church is not a “box made with hands.”

[wmfights]

they have a fear of not doing the right thing, not keeping the right commandments, not doing enough "work", not doing enough penance, not saying enough "Hail Mary's" never being good enough. They live under the law.

I think it becomes a great tool to control folks, but it's not Scripture. Jesus sent Paul so we wouldn't fall back into the Judaic practices. The time for sacrifices, festivals, and the law was replaced with Grace. Jesus did all the heavy lifting, all we have to do is believe and the rest follows.

[Mad Dawg]

Now, first, there is anti-Catholic in the sense of being in opposition to the Catholic Church & its teachings. I am, in that sense, Anti-Catholic concerning Priests, and Pro-Catholic on the Deity of Christ. It isn’t a useful term when used thus, because one person can then be both Anti-Catholic & Pro-Catholic.

I do think "Anti-Catholic" in this sense is, as you say, useless. We disagree. I very much admire your piety, thoughtfulness, and geniality and I know we agree that they are gifts from a loving and redeeming God. I disagree with you on some things and think you'd be happier 'n stuff if you were Catholic. So it's good to discuss these things. Disagreement is "anti" in a sense so "formal" that it is almost meaningless.

[Petronski]

Further, Christ is physically present in every Catholic church building every time Mass is celebrated, and as long as consecrated hosts remain there.