I would suggest you be the one to not lie. If you were Mormon, you would understand that Mormonism teaches Christ is the Jehovah of the Old Testament. And even if we didn’t believe in Christ’s pre-earth life as having been divine which we do believe, why does that deny our ability to worship Christ? It’s a doctrinal difference, nothing more. Either you were never Mormon as you claim or you did not understand the church’s teachings and left out of ignorance. People like you leave the church, but can’t leave it alone. One has to ask why. I would maintain the person you are most trying to convince that Mormonism is wrong is yourself-—because within your core there’s a kernal telling you that you may have made a terrible mistake. Goodbye. I have nothing more to say.
Misses, you are new to the party here. I was indeed Mormon. My ancestors all joined the LDS Church before the westward trek to Utah. I am a sixth generation Mormon, born into a household where my father was in the Bishopric.
Someone here is lying and it isn’t me.
I suggest you know nothing of the Christian God if you think He is anything like the Mormon Father in Heaven, and his first son Jesus Christ and his second son Lucifer.
Not the same being - not at all!
The tripartite structure of the Godhead is one of the central aspects of LDS theology that Elder Oaks stressed as critical to LDS beliefs. “We maintain that … God the Father is not a spirit but a glorified Being with a tangible body, as is his resurrected Son, Jesus Christ. Though separate in identity, they are one in purpose.” In addition, the purpose of existence in this reality has a definite purpose in LDS: “to qualify for the glorified celestial condition and relationships that are called exaltation or eternal life.” The means of achieving this state are defined according to a religious plan for one's life, a plan that, “can only be accomplished through an eternal marriage between a man and a woman.”
Elder Oaks' full remarks, are available online at Apostle Addresses Harvard Audience on Mormon Faith.
Two simple questions mb
1. How could Jesus be a god in the OT since he had not yet followed all the ordinaces, works necessary while being a human? It seems he broke the eternal principles of eternal progression.
“You are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he; before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.…Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God....ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.… Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me.”—Isaiah 43:10; 44:6, 8; 46:9 Jesus doesn't know of the existance of his father Elohim?
2. I am told by mormon missionaries that mormons worship only heavenly father - is worshiping Christ something new?
You are new here. CC was LDS most of her life, I was LDS for several years. I was faithful, devout, had a strong testimony and was a ‘worthy’ member. I didn’t leave because I wanted to sin or because I ‘couldn’t live up to the standards’. I knew LDS doctrine and understood it better than most of my friends who were BIC.
Leaving the LDS and becoming a Christian was one of the hardest and most rewarding things I have ever done because I had to come to the realization that I could do NOTHING at all to ‘help out’ in my salvation (exaltation). But I also learned that while the LDS think they know Christ they only know ABOUT Him. They have no idea who He really is, they cannot because they twist, distort, or throw out Bible verses that disagree with their made up theology.
I could never return to the spiritual void of the LDS now that I know Christ and have a personal relationship with Him.
Leave the church alone? Not hardly. I was lied to my the LDS missionaries, I was lied to by my leaders about LDS history and it wasn’t until I set out to be an LDS apologist that I discovered the foundation of lies that the LDS is built on.
Say you bought a car from a dealer, the dealer promises you that the car is new, in perfect condition, never been in an accident, all checked out, full warranty. You pay A LOT of money for this car.
Shortly after buying the car, it breaks down, the engine is shot, the fluid leaks, the radio quits working, and the transmission slips. You go back to the dealer and he just shrugs and says “it’s your problem now”. You do research and found out the car was totaled. There is no warranty and nothing you can do to get your money back.
How would you feel? Would you warn others about this crooked dealer? Of course.
That is all we are doing. We are warning others about the LDS church.
And I do not expect you to respond. Most LDS do not, just for the simple reason they are afraid of finding out the LDS church isn’t true. That is a scary thing. Faith is not based upon feelings yet the LDS cannot see that. They put their faith in their feelings and the rites and rituals rather than trusting the Word of God.
Tragic, really.