Satire and Sarcasm

Chasing Hats ^ | July 18, 2002 | Joshua Clark

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

When people poke fun at me I usually laugh. Then again, I am a very clumsy person so I have a lot of experience. LOLOL!

[Alamo-Girl]

That sounds right to me, too, dearest sister in Christ!

[betty boop]

To God be the glory, dearest sister in Christ!

[AmericanArchConservative]

Yeah - as some may have seen by my comment on a recently posted thread, I don’t even spare the religion moderator from my caustic witticisms. But - either they knew I was right, or else my smooth sophistication went right over their head, because I was neither banned nor suspended for my sharp snark.

I seldom spare my knives or razors when it comes to deconstructing the Smith-ite theology of lies, or its co-author(s)...I’m even less charitable with the P.hony R.eligion O.f P.eace {P.R.O.P. - phony religion, phony peace... coming to you from Arabia since 632 AD}

A.A.C.

[antceecee]

The following excerpt IMHO applies to Chris Dodd.... who should be prosecuted for crimes against the people of this country:

Also indicative of this sarcastic spirit are the references in the Psalms to laughing at your enemies and having them in derision.

The image of Christianity presented in the Psalms is one both of praise to God for preserving the lives of His saints and of prayers to God to cut off evildoers and judge the wicked.

Take Psalm 52:6-9:

The righteous also shall see, and fear, and shall laugh at him: Lo, this is the man that made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself in his wickedness.

But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever.

I will praise thee for ever, because thou hast done it: and I will wait on thy name; for it is good before thy saints.

[Cvengr]

The more history one studies, the more one can appreciate some of the directed sarcasm in many situations n Scripture.

Take the revelation of the Father to Christ given to John. There is a depiction of Christ with seven stars in his hand.

I remember a sermon noting at the time of writing and for a century or so preceding, there were mythical allusions to Caesar and Zeus holding the stars representing the daughters of Zeus in his hand and whoever held them in his hand controlled the universe.

In the first chapter of Revelation we see He who is the first and the last holding seven stars representing the seven angels of the seven churches in His hand.

Without adding or taking away from Scripture, it might be easy to see how such a revelation to a worldly person of that day simply assertively represents God controls the universe, not Zeus.

[Tax-chick]

Yes, exactly. And don’t forget, “The President gives the Prime Minister a set of DVDs that work only in the US.” Columnists keep having to repeat, “I’m not making this up!” when reporting real events.

Many times, a person will post something he considers outrageous satire, only to have someone reply with a news item showing that it’s already happened.

[restornu]

so you say...

like I said go contend with yourself.

[svcw]

The reward is the degree of glory one is able to endure and receive it.

Endure, hardly. I will not have to "endure" the Glory of God. I will Praise the Glory and be thankful in it.

[SZonian]

http://www.lookinguntojesus.net/ata20061203.htm

[T Minus Four]

The reward is the degree of glory one is able to endure and receive it.

Oil, light etc meaning what you have deposit in your spiritual bank account.

The cleaner the vessle the greater the Light one will be able to endure.

Resty, who told you this? And why do you want so much to believe it?

[Quix]

To be known and understood to whatever degree by you two . . .

is one of God’s big treasures to me this side of eternity.

To be at all understood on this issue is a HUGE gift and relief, treasure.

THANKS ENORMOUSLY.

[Quix]

My own best guess is that . . .

The RM

—considers the source, laughs &/or shakes head and goes on . . .

&/or

—sees it as an inconsequential ignorance about his true self, priorities etc. laughs &/or shakes head and goes on . . .

&/or

—figures the children have to vent now and then regardless how askew from reality—laughs &/or shakes head and goes on . . .

&/or

—recognizes some truth in the assertions, learns something of value and goes on without making an awkward fuss about it . . .

and/or

—considers the ignorance involved on our side too significant to bother with compared to the meager worth of the issue—laughs &/or shakes head and goes on . . .

and/or

—is too busy and/or tired to bother regardless of the merit of the issue and goes on . . .

and/or

—extends grace regardless because he wants grace extended to him regardless and goes on . . .

and/or ???

[svcw]

Resty what is WRONG!
That lds have to work for salvation or that lds have said on FR that you have to work for salvation?
We have been told by lds on FR that there are “works” for salvation.
Works for salvation is not Biblical.
Salvation is a gift, it is given by Grace, that is Biblical.

[restornu]

So you believe

[restornu]

There is NO work in Salvation what part don’t you understand!

[reaganaut]

Thank you, Resty.

[reaganaut]

If you say different I would love to hear it.

[reaganaut]

Remember term differences. To the LDS ‘salvation by grace’ means PHYSICAL salvation, not spiritual. Physical salvation is resurrection and an assignment to one of the 3 kingdoms.

For Christians ‘salvation by Grace’ is Spiritual salvation, i.e. being cleansed by faith and able to stand in the presence of God for eternity (LDS would say this is the Celestial Kingdom). For the LDS, this spiritual salvation is according to works, or as Resty said, what you have in your ‘spiritual bank account’.

Did you notice, no LDS has contradicted me on my above post about this?

[svcw]

I understand there is no “works” in Salvation.
However, lds do not seem to understand as demonstrated on FR on a regular basis.