Posted on 07/02/2010 4:43:38 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
Well known and admired 108 year old Rabbi reveals the Messiah's name!
Well put.
What a pack of rabid straw dogs.
Sheesh.
“The Holy Spirit is The Teacher and He doesn’t ‘assume’. That’s ‘man’s way.”
And by this you presume that I am not saved? That I do not have the Spirit in me, as well? Is that what I am to infer by all the charges being made that the Holy Spirit would never lead someone into believing this?
And you know you are right because...???
And who are you that you should post links and dare others to read them?
YOU do care what I think. You were just stopped in your tracks and didn’t know how to respond - with another non answer “defensive” post.
As noted in the links I posted, the “abomination of desolation” were the “graven images” of Caesar being marched into Jerusalem that signaled its destruction was near.
WHAT BRAZEN, HERETICAL MANGLING OF SCRIPTURE AND HISTORY.
It still boggles my mind that any “Christian” would believe such garbage that is so CLEARLY point blank contrary to Scripture AND to history.
The history cited does note REMOTELY BEGIN to correlate with the Scriptures about the AntiChrist.
The Scriptures cited do not REMOTELY BEGIN to correlate with the history cited.
What idiotic nonsense!
“What a pack of rabid straw dogs.”
Written like someone who has been “frothing at the keyboard” since this issue came up.
Better that the dogs be rabid than their master.
Good job. Excellent.
Of course, we veterans of such exchanges know that it’s an exercise in futility. Thankfully, some of the lurkers gain some edification.
“What idiotic nonsense!”
And yet I provided evidence and support for my claims. You have provided invective, opinion, ad hominem attacks, and vitriol. Tell me, are you the example of a Christian others should follow?
If so, why? If not, why do you persist in behaving this way?
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
remember me? I was the one asking you where you thought WE ARE in God's Word. Believe it or not, it was an important question, as hours later you are posting this request to be shown where the anti-christ is ever spoken of in ANY of the gospels. I think I asked you if you believed WE ARE in the Gospel of the Kingdom era. You won't find your answer to the anti-christ there.
Because WE ARE not there. WE ARE in the Gospel of the Grace of God era, the Dispensation of the Grace of God. Your answers to the anti-christ are clearly spelled out in Paul's Epistles. As are your answers to the beginning of this era, why this era is different from the Kingdom era, and when this present era will end, and how it will end.
That’s merely speaking of Caeser’s arrogance about “all the world.”
We know that ALL THE WORLD WAS NOT REGISTERED.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT
. . . AT LEAST FOLKS WITH A RATIONAL UNDERSTANDING OF SCRIPTURE LED OF HOLY SPIRIT INTO ALL THE TRUTHS OF SCRIPTURE KNOWS
THAT
WHEN GOD SPEAKS OF ALL THE WORLD BEING REQUIRED TO HAVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST OR BE KILLED, GOD MEANS EXACTLY THAT.
And God is not likely amused by folks insisting HE MEANT SOMETHING ELSE! SHEESH!
“The history cited does note REMOTELY BEGIN to correlate with the Scriptures about the AntiChrist.”
Then maybe you had better examine your assumptions.
“The Scriptures cited do not REMOTELY BEGIN to correlate with the history cited.”
Then maybe you had better dig deeper in them. I can only lead you to the truth. I can’t make you drink from it.
Readers make whatever assumptions and implications of our words
THAT THEY CHOOSE.
INSISTING THAT WE MEANT
something the reader construes out of their own fantasies is mind reading and against the rules.
In my own construction on reality, it is quite possible for fantasies, ideas, doctrines, beliefs to be fostered by demonic forces and yet held by folks who still trust Jesus for their Salvation. I certainly don’t recommend it. But it is possible.
“AT LEAST FOLKS WITH A RATIONAL UNDERSTANDING OF SCRIPTURE LED OF HOLY SPIRIT INTO ALL THE TRUTHS OF SCRIPTURE KNOWS THAT”
You keep asserting that you are “led by the Spirit”, yet I see no evidence of that in your attitude or “tone” here.
Who are you trying to convince of your “leading”, you or me?
The document you posted the link to is full of Preterism.
YOU HAVE HAD MORE THAN SUFFICIENT TIME TO POINT OUT TO US WHERE YOU DISAGREE WITH PRETERISM AND YOU HAVE FAILED—UTTERLY FAILED—TO DO SO.
THAT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM. THAT IS NOT OUR FAULT.
IT IS YOURS.
EXCELLENT POST AND QUITE BIBLICALLY ACCURATE:
PRAISE GOD!
So now the Antichrist was Caesar Augustus? Was he thrown alive into the Lake of Fire by Jesus Christ? Where is that in the Bible?
The Bible, not all of your sacred man-written books.
And did all of your various Antichrists meet the following Biblical requirements for the Antichrist?
•The antichrist will be a man - Daniel 7:24-25
•He will confirm a covenant for 7 years - Daniel 9:27
•He will rise among 10 kings - Daniel 7:8
•He will uproot 3 kings from the original 10 kings to gain political power - Daniel 7:8
•His 10 nation union will merge into a world government which he will dominate - Revelations 13:1-2
•He will ascend to power on a platform of peace. By peace, he will destroy many - Daniel 8:25
•He will be promoted and exalted by a miracle working religious partner (false prophet) - Revelations 13:11-12
•He was, and is not, and yet is - Revelations 17:8
•The world government over which he rules will be a red (communistic or socialistic) government - Revelations 17:14
•The antichrist will be preceded by 7 kings or rulers.
•He will have a mouth speaking great things. Very boastful - Daniel 7:8
•His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20
•He will have a fierce countenance - Daniel 8:23
•He will understand puzzling things - Daniel 8:23
•He will cause craft to prosper - Daniel 8:25
•He apparently assumes world dominating power 3 1/2 years after he confirms the covenant. He then will continue to reign for 42 months - Revelations 13:5
•The Abomination of Desolation is the event that signals the beginning of this final 42 months - Daniel 9:27
•He opposes God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4
•He will speak marvelous things against the God of gods - Daniel 11:36
•He will exalt himself above all that is called God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4
•He will sit in the temple of God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4
•He will claim to be God (or an incarnation of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:4
•He will take away the daily sacrifices from the temple - Daniel 11:31
•He will plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain - Daniel 11:45
•He will have power to make war with the saints and to overcome them - Revelations 13:7
•He will continue this war with the saints for 3 1/2 years - Daniel 7:21, 25
•This time of Great Tribulation is launched upon the Earth by the antichrist at the Abomination of Desolation. - Matthew 24:15,21.
•During this time, the antichrist will scatter the power of the holy people - Daniel 12:7
•He will rule a mighty and strong kingdom - Daniel 7:7
•He was given power over all kindreds, tongues and nations - Revelations 13:7
•His kingdom will devour the whole earth - Daniel 7:23
•He will have great military power that will stand behind him, to enforce his laws - Daniel 11:31
•He will try to change times and laws; and they will be given into his power for 3 1/2 years - Daniel 7:25
•He will give great honor to the God of forces, with gold, silver, jewels, etc - Daniel 11:38
•He will prosper in everything that he does - Daniel 8:24
•He will not regard the God of his fathers - Daniel 11:37
•He will not regard the desire of women - Daniel 11:37
•The mark of the beast will be the amount of his name - Revelations 14:11
•All that dwell upon the Earth will worship him, except those who’s names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life - Revelations 15:2
•He will have an image made after him - Revelations 15:2
•His coming will be after the workings of Satan - 2 Thessalonians 2:8
•He will fight against Jesus Christ at Armageddon (and loose I might add!) - Revelations 17:14
•He will stand against the Prince of princes - Daniel 8:25
•The Lord will consume him with the spirit of his mouth (which is the Word of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:8
•The Lord will destroy him with the brightness of his coming (which is his glory) - 2 Thessalonians 2:8
•He will be cast alive into the lake of fire - Revelations 19:20
•He will be tormented day and night for ever and ever - Revelations 20:10
God tells us that the Antichrist will have an image that can speak:
He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive the mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is 666.” (Revelations 13:11-18)
Which one of your list of old Roman Empire Antichrists forced everyone to receive a mark in their forehead or right hand and had the technology to create an image of himself that could speak? Where is the Scriptural evidence for that?
And God also tells us that the Antichrist will rule over the entire world, not just the Roman Empire:
And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months. Then he opened his mouth in blaspheming against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven. And it was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given to him over every tribe, tongue and nation. And all who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Revelations 13:1-10)
Which one of your old Roman Empire Antichrists ruled over every tribe, tongue and nation? Where can we find that in Scripture?
Which one of your various Antichrists meets all of the Biblical requirements for the Antichrist?
“In my own construction on reality...”
‘Nuff said.
I agree with Quix - EXCELLENT POST!!
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