As much as I admire Rav Kaduri, the fact is he did makes false prophesies at the end. Here is some of his words, from the Kaduri people in 2007. Kaduri said the war of Gog and Magog started in 2001 with the USA invasion of Afghanistan and would conclude in 7 years. (last year 2009) The Messiah would be revealed. All of this hasnt happened. So, he sadly was making false prophesies at the end or was simply not lucid. For reference, we are in year 5770 now.
Monday, September 03, 2007 Redemption from Rav Kaduri, z'sl
As we are heading towards the 7th year, the year of Shmita, 5768, I thought to bring the following complete list of hints about the final redemption from the holy Rav Kaduri, zs'l, and his students.
Rav Kaduri words were considered very seriously and he was not a man of many words. He saw the right to give these clues before withdrawing from this Olam.
1 " After the Sharon government Moshiach will arrive", predicted the great and righteous Eloki Harav Kaduri. These words was published in newspapers in Israel.
According to the great Harav Kaduri, Moshiach can already be found in the country of the sacredness and in the future, to get discovered in the timing that will be determined to him. The great Harav Kaduri revealed to his students that according to the account of the Vilna Gaon, zs'l, Gog uMagog began 5 years ago, on Hoshana Raba of the last Sabbatical year of Shmita and is to be continued 7 years and during this time, at any moment the Moshiach can be revealed. (The American universal offensive on terrorism began on this day when the Americans attacked Afganistan).
Harav Kaduri increased his talk on revelation of the Moshiach and said that Moshiach already was given signs from Shamayim. "The world will sweeten", was the custom of Rav Kaduri to say to his students. Revelation of the Moshiach will cause the rescue of Jerusalem from the Islam and the Christianity whom want to expropriate from the Jewish nation, but their way will not succeed and they will fight one another. Rav Kaduri revealed that in the garments of Moshiach is hidden the Magen David that powers him with the leadership that will be concealed till revealed.
2. "We are between the year third to the year of the redemption that can be this week". Rav Kaduri added that "million of people are liable to lose their lives and their homes and the land which they live on and what can rescue the world from calamities are that Jews. They MUST increase in sincere Teshuva".
The great Rav Kaduri said that the outcry of poor Jews and the deportation from homes shocked the whole world. "It is not for the free will to search the lust of this world", Rav Kaduri said about the Great Tsunami, "It is because young Jews travel there and and destruct their character". This was said Rosh Chodesh Tevet, known period of Shovavim.
3. "If Moshiach is already situated between us and only waits in order to get discovered?" Rav Kaduri continues to surprise his students in the secret of Moshiach. At the time of Yom Kippur prayer of 5766, the great Rav Yitzhak Kaduri, with his head bent downwards, said this within covering his eyes with his right hand like a person reading Shema Israel.
After 45 minutes, the great Rav Kaduri, zs'l, smiled a wide smile, and said: "Moshiach's soul was conceived in a man in Israel, baruch HaShem". With completion of the sentence, all whispered in great awe and much happiness was noticable on those present.
The Mekubalim know the definition of "power of Moshiach has been conceived", which is still not yet the Moshiach, it is Chezkat Moshiach. The person that received an addition soul, expresses an increase signal to his name by adding an additional letter, without change of pronounciation of his name, even after the increase of the letter. In the words of Rav Kaduri, the letter Vav was added on to the person's name. (Only in two names did we find an increase of the letter Vav not changing the sound of the name; Yaakov and Shilo).
At the end of Yom Kippur, during the meal after the fast, Rav Kaduri was approached by his students to hear more things. The great Rav Kaduri said that "Jews must come to Israel for Moshiach's reception that has already began and needs to get discovered".
4. "Moshiach as leader will not sit in any governmental chamber and his speech will create the reality to be more exposed. Not all will believe in him in the beginning (the secular will more easily receive him) and revealed more details of his identity. Rav Kaduri continue to surprise his students in the secrets of Kabbalah, and this time he conveyed, before Shabbat prayers, "lines to the image of king Moshiach", revealed Rav Kaduri.
He revealed that he has met with Moshiach about a year ago. According to the great Rav Kaduri, zs'l, told by a trustworthy person that attended his classes (Shabbat 29.10.05 ), "We are already situated in the first period of Moshiach. In this busy period, Moshiach is occupied with Kiruv Rechokim (Teshuva movement) and bringing the seculars into the Torah world". Rav Kaduri explained that "the alliance of the two Meshichim are aligned" (Moshiac ben Yoseph and Moshiach ben David) and both are in the degree to be revealed as the Moshiach leader.
The redemption, that will lead to the situation of universal peace and happiness, will actually arrive by a person that will change the leadership and all systems of the regime. The trademark of the leadership in him is to lead Israel in pleasantness and with grace and love to Judaism. He will gather Jews with his mouth from all over the world
He will not sit in any governmental chamber. His ability of leadership is from the characters in his mouth, and words. The reality will be produced a superpower in others thru his speech. He'll say his words with different tools, also thru the media outlets. Rav Kaduri brings from the Rambam that Moshiach will purify the tools. His rulership will be clean and pure, there will only be justice and truth. His authority will be absolutely clean from all greed and with justice and integrity. And on those who ask how it's possible to say on any person that he is the Moshiach, Rav Kaduri answered "they speak not from their mind".
Rav Kaduri: "Not everyone will believe the first stages of his revelation and his actions as the Moshiach. This is detailed in the many books, but his genuine test will not be in his ability to perform magic, but in his self essence and in his actions. These actions will change him from the level of Chezkat Moshiach to the unquestionable Moshiach".
Will we believe him immediately? "Not necessarily", answered Rav Kaduri. "There will be those that will believe in him and there will be those that will not believe in him. Moshiach will not view a person as secular or religious. It is very possibly that the secular will more easily receive him".
"סוד חצי מדינה Secret of half" state two prominent clear stages of his revelation: The first, he starts by the actions that determine his status Bechezkat Moshiach without his own knowledge. The second stage, he will get discovered by very few (not necessarily only to Torah scholars, but also to those that identify a force of leadership without ability to explain it). Later he will get discovered as the Moshiach and begin to rule. When he will get discovered, many will be bewildered; What, this is him?! Many neighbours and friends will recognize him and he'll recognizes them. But, till now no one knew he was the Moshiach.
Those who attended Rav Kaduri's shiur, asked who is the Moshiach. Rav Kaduri replied "Those who know Moshiach do not talk; and those that talk do not know! Moshiach's Secret is Half of the MeDina." (can also be read Dina, bat Yaakov Avinu, zs'l).
5. Harav Kaduri: "The time of redemption has arrived. Investigate my words and discover the secret name of Moshiach that came with me 9 MarChesvan, 5764" (quoted from his mouth).
Rav Kaduri: "Moshiach will not come and says I hereby am the Moshiach, give me leadership". The nation will pressure him to lead them after finding the signs of Chezkat Moshiach on him.
To summarize: Sharon fell, Moshiach needs to rule after him, we are in the 5th year of Gog uMagog, and 2 years remain for Moshiach to get discovered. Moshiach will fight in the war of Gog uMagog, and during the war or right afterwards, he get discovered. In his garments is the hidden Magen David that accord him the force of leadership. Moshiach is oblivious to himself that he is Moshiach: " Those who knows do not talk, and those who talk do not know; his secret is secret half Medinah."
(Sandhedrin סנהדרין צ"ז) באמר רבא: מתוך שעתידין ליגאל בשביעית, לפיכך קבעוה בשביעית. והרי אמר בששית קולות, בשביעית מלחמות, במוצאי שביעית בן דוד בא In the 6th, voices of war -5767 In the 7th, war (7th is Shemita year) 5768 Point of departure of the seventh, Ben David arrives.
Hat tip Dreaming of Moshiach
Arguing with them is useless, blasater. These people "know" that Yushqa is the messiah. They don't just believe, they "KNOW." And do you know how they know? Because their bible has a "new testament" in it and the "new testament" (and thus their bible) says that Yushqa is the messiah. And that's all there is to it.
As every FReeper knows, I certainly consider Protestants--especially the American Fundamentalist variety--to be far, far better than traditional liturgical chr*stianity. But the Protestants drive me crazy just as they do everyone else by insisting that the Protestant bible is self-evidently "the word of G-d" and needs no canonization. The "bible" says it is the word of G-d and the bible is the word of G-d (and thus cannot be mistaken), so when the bible says it is the word of G-d then that proves that the bible is the word of G-d!
The American-style Protestants I love so much don't realize that only the Torah was written directly by G-d and needed no approval by a human religious authority of some kind. The Na"KH was canonized by the 'Anshey HaKenesset HaGedolah and the "new testament" was canonized by the ancient Catholic/Orthodox church. But Protestants don't recognize this.
All questions of whether the "old testament" really is that chr*stological is "refuted" by quoting the "new testament" (the "word of G-d"). Protestants "know" that Yushqa fulfilled the messianic prophecies because the "new testament" said he did, and the "new testament" is the word of G-d because it's part of the self-authorizing, self-authenticating Protestant bible.
I thought of posting a facepalm to the post to which I was pinged, but it would do no good. Trying to reason with these people is like trying to feed a bale of hay to an ant. It's impossible. These people will believe in Yushqa (because their "bible" tells them to) up until the moment the real Mashiach is revealed. I only hope they acknowledge the truth then, though some of them are so hard-headed that I'm sure some will pull out their KJV and read it to Mashiach to "prove" that he isn't Mashiach!
I've been a Noachide for twenty years and at first I was very optimistic about converting my people. Experience has disabused me. Looks like I'm going to have to be lonely for some time to come.
Interesting. Thx.
Will have to finish reading this later.
Leaving for another social event shortly.
Blaster!
Way to go to spin something into Mis-Mosh! LOL...This is the thing many Orthodox Jews, Rabbi’s know very well Jesus Yeshua, Yehoshoua is the Messiah of the Jews and all of humanity.
First off many Orthodox Jews, Hasisdic *Do not want* Jesus to be the Messiah..WHY because they don’t like the Messiah that he is... They want a Messiah they feel fits into their mold..... I have listened to Rabbi Kaduri’s grandson, who said without a doubt Kaduri spoke of meeting the Messiah and many visions of him..Funny how respected Kaduri was however the minute he mentioned *Jesus* oops! must have dementia, must be looney, even some thought he turned into a *Christian* when he died.....
This is no different than 2000 yrs ago, when many respected Torah Observant Jews were vilified in mentioning Jesus as the Promised Messiah of Israel.....
Many Jews are growing weary hearing year after year *the Messiah is coming, it’s not Jesus but someone is coming..Who? no one knows, WHEN? no one knows, WHY hasn’t he came yet! NO one knows....Many Torah Observant Jews are finding there way to Yeshua, not by way of a certain Christian religion, nor denomination, but from the Hebrew Scriptures, Prayer to G-D by flat out asking him... *Adonai is Yeshua Ha Mashiaich* the Messiah of Israel? that Jewish Rabbi from Nazareth they are finding out all on there own... True the info is out there...
No Messiah is coming *Blaster* other than the the Christ..The only living begotten Son of the Living true G-D of all things *Created* you will see, it is getting closer
Will he come after Sharon’s dies like Kaduri stated? not sure time will tell....But ask yourself this Blaster, with all the suffering, war, mayhem, heartache and especially the pain the Jewish people have to endure in a world growing more hostile towards them, why hasn’t Hashem come?
But he is Coming a Second Time like the *Lion of Judah* and every knee shall bow and tounge confess Jesus is LORD! even you blaster.... Happy Independence Day!
Tara