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On intemperate and indiscreet zeal. (The Primary Fault of many Religion Forum posters)
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Posted on 07/06/2010 6:54:33 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: Mad Dawg

I do not think Paul was saying he was a milk toast. he confronted Peter on his doctrine.. I do not read that scripture as you do


621 posted on 07/06/2010 7:44:25 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: ejonesie22

And have you noticed we rarely, if ever, get a straight answer to that question?

My life would be easier if God HADN”T called me to this ministry. IT really is a labor of love.


622 posted on 07/06/2010 7:46:18 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut; r9etb
R9: "Maybe it’s time for you [reaganaut] to take your considerable talents and use them to cultivate a different crop...

I think Reaganaut is EXACTLY where God wants her, planting and watering away.

"So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow" 1 Cor 3:7

623 posted on 07/06/2010 7:46:28 PM PDT by T Minus Four (If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.)
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To: ejonesie22

I was sort of taken aback too ... I mean none of them speak Hebrew ... not even Yiddish ... well ok, that one Indian in Blazing Saddles did but .......


624 posted on 07/06/2010 7:46:42 PM PDT by SkyDancer (A Kangaroo Is Loose In The Top Paddock)
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To: T Minus Four

Thanks, T. I think I am where God wants me as well. I, in the flesh, certainly don’t want to be here.


625 posted on 07/06/2010 7:49:20 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
Serving him is a burden and a blessing. And I would not have it any other way.

It was not easy for Christ, so what do I have to complain about.

626 posted on 07/06/2010 7:50:31 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: Colofornian

;-)


627 posted on 07/06/2010 7:51:28 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: T Minus Four
Your tagline: If we could "CTR" we wouldn't need a Savior.

(I looked in the FReeper rules and didn't see anything against swiping taglines...so don't leave it unguarded)

628 posted on 07/06/2010 7:51:51 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: SkyDancer
Shalom!


629 posted on 07/06/2010 7:52:01 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: All; Dr. Brian Kopp
#597

Got the post # wrong...should read #605...

630 posted on 07/06/2010 7:53:20 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Funny you should mention that because I was just changing mine. I bequeath it to you :-)


631 posted on 07/06/2010 7:53:46 PM PDT by T Minus Four (If evolution is true, why do we still have reptiles, amoeba and worms?)
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To: ejonesie22

It is a burden and an Blessing and you are right, I would serve Him ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.

The worst that could ever happen to me is nothing compared to Calvary.


632 posted on 07/06/2010 7:54:36 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Exactly...


633 posted on 07/06/2010 7:56:11 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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To: reaganaut
Contrast this statement by a Mormon with thes ones by LDS leaders...thank you for proving our point, Logo.

Not so fast. You left off the last part of my statement. Here is the entire quote, including the part you omitted (in bold):

The prophet does not have the final word; God does. As a Latter-day Saint, I am not obligated to agree with or defend everything that the leaders of the church have ever said. I have the right and obligation to ask God to reveal the truth to me by the power of the Holy Ghost.

The bolded sentence is important. As Brigham Young is reported to have said,

What a pity it would be if we were led by one man to utter destruction! Are you afraid of this? I am more afraid that this people have so much confidence in their leaders that they will not inquire for themselves of God whether they are led by Him. I am fearful they settle down in a state of blind self-security, trusting their eternal destiny in the hands of their leaders with a reckless confidence that in itself would thwart the purposes of God in their salvation, and weaken that influence they could give to their leaders, did they know for themselves, by the revelations of Jesus, that they are led in the right way. Let every man and woman know, by the whispering of the Spirit of God to themselves, whether their leaders are walking in the path the Lord dictates, or not. This has been my exhortation continually. (JD, 9:150)

Let's consider one of the statements in your rather long cut-and-paste posting in light of Brigham Young's statement. Wilford Woodruff said,

The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the programme. It is not in the mind of God. If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my place, and so He will any other man who attempts to lead the children of men astray from the oracles of God and from their duty. (Sixty-first Semiannual General Conference of the Church, Monday, October 6, 1890, Salt Lake City, Utah. Reported in Deseret Evening News, October 11, 1890, p. 2.)

If we seek and receive the Spirit of God we cannot be led astray by anyone. And any man who deliberately tries to lead us astray will be removed from his place.

634 posted on 07/06/2010 7:57:01 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Colofornian; T Minus Four

I think ALL the inmans should use it as their taglines for one week, and even some non inmans if we can get them on board.

Kind of a ‘tagline bomb’.


635 posted on 07/06/2010 8:04:40 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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Shalom! ya’ll.


636 posted on 07/06/2010 8:07:04 PM PDT by svcw (True freedom cannot be granted by any man or government, only by Christ.)
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To: ejonesie22
That is convenient to say the least.

It is not convenient at all. It means I am entirely responsible for what I say and do, and I will answer to God for my conduct. I cannot blame any another man for my failures.

637 posted on 07/06/2010 8:07:30 PM PDT by Logophile
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

BTTT


638 posted on 07/06/2010 8:07:36 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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To: Logophile
And Joseph Smith (according to lds, you keep forgetting to add that part)

“If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]” - (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)

639 posted on 07/06/2010 8:10:47 PM PDT by svcw (True freedom cannot be granted by any man or government, only by Christ.)
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To: Logophile
That is all good and well, but doesn't answer the question.

What do you do when god tells your that the leaders of your church are wrong?

Do you continue to support that church? Remember these are not just some random ministers and such that are your churches leaders, but prophets, seers and apostles. They speak with and for god directly, and as such there should be no guess work or “interpretation as mere ministers have to contend with when teaching and guiding their flocks as the “apostates” do.

640 posted on 07/06/2010 8:21:33 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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