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Alleged Vatican Official Says Extraterrestrials Are Real
The Eponymous Flower ^ | 07/08/2010 | Tancred

Posted on 07/08/2010 8:54:20 AM PDT by 0beron

Edited on 07/08/2010 9:57:44 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

"Vatican Officials" say a lot of things. This man who is said to be an expert in demonology also claims to be an expert on the phenomenon of intelligent extraterrestrial life. We say they are supernatural in origin and the appearance of strange and foreboding lights in the sky are unfavorable signs.

Monsignor Corrado Balducci, a theologian member of the Vatican Curia (governing body), and an insider close to the Pope, has gone on Italiannational television five times, including recent months, to proclaim that extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. Balducci provided an analysis of extraterrestrials that he feels is consistent with the Catholic Church's understanding of theology. Monsignor Balducci emphasizes that extraterrestrial encounters "are NOT demonic, they are NOT due topsychological impairment, they are NOT a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully." Since Monsignor Balducci is a demonology expert and consultant to the Vatican , and since the Catholic Church has historically demonized many new phenomena that were poorly understood, [Like the historical propensity for the press to be leftist deceivers who herald new phenomena like Communism as saviours of mankind.] his stating that the Church does not censure these encounters is all the more remarkable.

Balducci revealed to a visiting American professional that the Vatican is closely following this phenomenon quietly. My informant originally surmised that the Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nunciatures (embassies) in various countries.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: aliens; angels; corradobalducci; demons; extraterrestrials; napolitano; ufo; ufos
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To: Quix

Yeah....I’ve heard rumors over the years.

It’s a great location...Dry, steady air...Not too many clouds...


801 posted on 09/21/2010 8:03:39 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Ahhh.

Can you please share any of the rumors you’ve heard?


802 posted on 09/21/2010 8:07:13 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix

Again, who sent you? I think your proselytizing here is focused on yourself.

What else does a protestant have for authority but himself?

That’s why there are more than 25,000 different sects of protestant and growing into increasing irrelevance. No problem here, it’s the way nature works.


803 posted on 09/21/2010 8:13:52 PM PDT by 0beron
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To: 0beron; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

Proddys would have to work hard for centuries to catch up with the diverse fractious factions under the Vatican umbrella.

Given the bureaucratic magicsterical power-mongers—each with a different slant . . . and lots of local pontificating folks with different slants . . . it’s no wonder Scuba Teddy Kennedy and Puhlousey can claim brazenly to be Roman Catholic with as viable a version of Roman Catholocism as any other powerful, wealthy elite courted by the Vatican as pretty good alright kosher enough to kiss Papal rings etc.

What a farce.


804 posted on 09/21/2010 8:26:38 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix

Rumors the Vatican allegedly has known about UFOs and extraterrestrials for many years...Some rumors claimed they have proof, others imply or claim they were contacted long ago, etc.


805 posted on 09/21/2010 8:48:25 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

Yeah.

I’ve read of similar rumors for decades.

I wouldn’t doubt that they are true to mostly true. It’s only logical given a lot of other verified stuff.

The melding of the Marian apparition stuff with and as an expression of the UFO phenomena is INCREASINGLY [in frequency and stature] prevelant and seamless.


807 posted on 09/21/2010 8:54:53 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: 0beron
What else does a protestant have for authority but himself?

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CHRIST AND PAUL BOTH asserted that we have Holy Spirit as a more than sufficient authority--given HIS LEADING US INTO ALL TRUTH, RIGHTLY DIVIDING SCRIPTURES.

OF COURSE we realize that RC's are quite given to arguing with Christ about those doing The Father's will being HIS TRUE BROTHERS AND SISTERS EQUAL TO OR ABOVE HIS BLOOD HALF-BROTHERS AND HALF-SISTERS--YET THE VATICAN INSISTS THEY ARE NONEXISTENT TO far lower than Mary; about Holy Spirit leading individuals and groups sufficiently authoritatively and functionally . . . etc. etc. etc.

AFTER ALL . . . !!!!TRADITION!!!! rules, NOT Holy Spirit

AT THE VATICAN!

And when Holy Spirit is on vacation--usually at 'spouse' Mary's orders--perhaps for His ?health?--then the WHITE HANKYS RULE.

/satire

808 posted on 09/21/2010 9:06:17 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix
What does your side make of this kind of thing:
And he gave some as Apostles, others as prophets, others as evangelists, others as pastors and teachers, to equip the holy ones for the work of ministry, for building up the Body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of faith and knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the extent of the full stature of Christ.

809 posted on 09/21/2010 9:46:20 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

OF COURSE, AS SCRIPTURE, WE BELIEVE IT.

However, some Proddys are more hierarchical about it and others are the opposite extreme without having even any designated spiritual leader of any kind. Lay persons take turns leading meetings.

I’ve learned a lot from all types—even at an Episcopal Cathedral in Spokane.

However, I’ve also seen enough to believe that the corrupting power of position in religious institutions is not at all a preference of God. He’d rather have no hierarchy whatsoever than THAT, imho.

I’ve rarely seen even a large congregation avoid putting the Pastor on a pedestal. And most Pastors seem to like their pedestals.

Horrid.

I Cor 14 is the model I prefer and one I think God prefers.


810 posted on 09/21/2010 9:57:09 PM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: dragnet2; Mad Dawg; betty boop; Legatus; markomalley; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; ..
I believe many RC's are rushing past this sort of report in rationalization riddled denial. All that means is that they are postponing coming to terms with such facts and realities. Of course, MOST PRODDYS ARE doing the same thing in rushing past such evidence and postponing coming to terms with such issues and facts [Quixicated emphases]:

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Question #5:

DW: Your access to those within the Vatican is very unique and important, [Of that, I have no doubts whatsoever--Quix] Paola. Church leaders have (apparently) made great strides recently to prepare the Catholic religion, and people the world over, for imminent Disclosure. Is the Church prepared for this?

And just how much does the Vatican know about all of this, given they have publicly stated “If aliens do exist, they would be our space brothers and sisters, which would not negate the existence of God”?

PH: No. Chief Vatican Astronomer, Father Funes of the Vatican Observatory says that the presence of Extraterrestrial life means there are more souls in a universe filled with life who can give glory to God and that this doctrine does not conflict with the Catholic religion.

The fact this press release came out in the Official Vatican Newspaper L’Osservatore Romano means it is approved by the Pope himself. So the Catholic church is positioning itself for what? Are the Jesuits in the Observatory in Arizona looking to the ‘Second Coming’ or something else?

Father Funes calls the ETs our brothers and sisters in the article which means that he is not talking about the Zeta greys, but people who must look like us.

He also adds dogma or new doctrine into the mix when he says that Jesus did not need to die for them because aliens were not born with “original sin, only humans were.” I think this is pretty revolutionary and a sign of things to come.

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FROM ABOVE LINK:

http://denniswhitneyufo.blogspot.com/2009/02/20-questions-with-ufo-researcher-paola.html

811 posted on 09/22/2010 6:37:29 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix

Former Military Report U.S. Nuclear Weapons Compromised by Unidentified Flying Objects

According to a September 15th PRNewswire-USNewswire article, declassified U.S. government documents will be distributed at the National Press Club conference to be held September 27th, 2010, that substantiate the reality of UFO activity at nuclear weapons sites extending back to 1948.

Testimony from more than 120 former or retired military personnel witnesses points to an ongoing and alarming intervention by unidentified aerial objects at nuclear weapons sites.

Lecture: The UFO - Nuke connection Part 1 - Robert Hastings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn-OBcE0iK8&feature=player_embedded

The event will be held at The National Press Club, Holeman Lounge, Monday, September 27, 2010 at 12:30 p.m.
The event is open to credentialed media and Congressional staff only.

Press Club
http://www.press.org/

UFO shuts down 10 Nuke Silos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFrFoCY6kxI&feature=player_embedded

UFO Coverup at Nuke Missile Sites

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cvh0_v1WaI&feature=player_embedded

PRNewswire-USNewswire Article

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/us-nuclear-weapons-have-been-compromised-by-unidentified-aerial-objects-102962064.html

Stg. Clifford Stone who discusses an astounding tale about his alien friend, Korona and how he went on crash recovery missions in Vietnam during the 1960’s and how he helped an ET to escape from military custody.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzIeZQ5QhKM

An Interview with Michael Schratt who is an aerospace historian regarding top secret craft that he has investigated and documented. As a top notch researcher, he has met with and interviewed many NASA and defense department individuals regarding these classified projects as well as civilians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woMtIHwRL2w


812 posted on 09/22/2010 6:42:18 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Quix

I have tried to respond to several of the pings to this thread and so far after I type something out I just discard it because this is all speculative and I just can’t get myself worked up about it, try as I might.

If there are rational creatures on other planets there’s no reason to assume that they are fallen like we are except for the fact that the Church has always believed that when Adam fell all creation fell with him. However, if these supposed alien rational creatures are not descendants of Adam then they can’t very well have a share in the fall now can they? Then again they may have their own Fall, but we don’t know that yet... if there’s anything TO know.

Who knows, there may be entire races out there in space who possess the preternatural gifts, infused knowledge and supernatural grace. I doubt it though. We’d know it as soon as they showed up and we wouldn’t have anything to fear from them.

I suppose one could go really nuts and suppose that the Garden of Paradise/Eden wasn’t actually on Earth and Noah’s Ark is a corrupted allegory for space colonization and all alleged rational creatures are descended from Adam... but that’s just crazy.


813 posted on 09/22/2010 7:17:50 AM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Quix
Quix IMO on FreeRepublic you present a powerful case linking all of the following:

Abductions and alien encounters

UFO's

religiosity

Mariology

Fatima visions

replacement theology

religious institutional corruption

idolatry

GREAT END TIME DECEPTION

One interesting point is you do not include the shroud in this analysis because the focus of ths shroud is our Lord Jesus Christ.

The focus should always and only be Our Lord Jesus Christ!

814 posted on 09/22/2010 8:21:53 AM PDT by marbren
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To: Legatus

Thanks for your kind reply.

1. Not interested in folks being fearful and worked up. Scripture repeatedly says FEAR NOT—TRUST IN GOD.

2. Am super interested in folks not being deluded by the enemy’s END TIMES deceptioins as Scripture warns us about such.

3. The now increasingly clear evidence of the Vatican supporting satanic globalism and the fallen angels involved in establishing it—ought to be of concern to all mankind and particularly all authentic Christians.


815 posted on 09/22/2010 8:56:15 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: marbren

I’m humbled and blessed by your kind summary.

The Shroud of Turin impressed me as likely authentic because of the pollen grain studies long ago—from plants unique to the Holy Land and common of that era 2000 years ago.

It doesn’t influence my faith as my faith is secure on Scripture and on what Christ has done and does in my life by His Blood and Spirit.

However, it’s a nice punctuation point illustrating the Resurrection and the affirmation of the Gospel narratives.

CERTAINLY CHRIST ALONE IS THE FULCRUM OF ALL HISTORY PAST AND PRESENT AND OF ALL THE MULTIVERSES.

THANKS FOR YOUR SPIRIT-BORN WISDOM.


816 posted on 09/22/2010 8:59:41 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Quix

OOOPS GOOFED . . . LEFT PART OUT

. . . .

CHRIST IS THE FULCRUM OF ALL HISTORY

PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE . . . .


817 posted on 09/22/2010 9:07:05 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: marbren; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...

HERE ARE YOUTUBE VIDEOS WITH THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE VATICAN FOLKS ABOUT UFO’S ETC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7RWsQ75RnA

‘FATHER’ BALDUCCI SAYS ALIENS EXIST AND DESCRIBES THEM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MYCfq4uA7k

ALIENS AND UFO’S, THE VATICAN AND RIZAL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnLTw2vCEUo


818 posted on 09/22/2010 9:26:36 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: marbren; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...

HERE ARE YOUTUBE VIDEOS WITH THE INTERVIEWS WITH THE VATICAN FOLKS ABOUT UFO’S ETC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7RWsQ75RnA

‘FATHER’ BALDUCCI SAYS ALIENS EXIST AND DESCRIBES THEM:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MYCfq4uA7k

ALIENS AND UFO’S, THE VATICAN AND RIZAL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnLTw2vCEUo


819 posted on 09/22/2010 9:27:45 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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To: Whenifhow

THANKS TONS FOR THE LINKS.

BLESS YOU.


820 posted on 09/22/2010 10:18:43 AM PDT by Quix (PAPAL AGENT DESIGNEE: Resident Filth of non-Roman Catholics; RC AGENT DESIGNATED: "INSANE")
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