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Milwaukee priests lament more accurate Roman Missal translation; ‘salt in the wounds’ (Catholic Cau)
Catholic Culture ^ | August 5, 2010

Posted on 08/05/2010 12:09:36 PM PDT by NYer

Milwaukee priests quoted in a local newspaper article on the third edition of the Roman Missal are lamenting the revised translations, which more closely reflect the content and majesty of the original Latin.

“The bottom line for me is why,” said Father Alan Jurkus. “Why, with everything else that's going on in the Church, do we have to rub salt in the wounds?”

“For some people this will be very unsettling,” added Father Ken Smits. “The real concern is among the parish priests, who will have to explain something many of them are not in favor of.”

“You can call it whatever you like, but it's not English,” said Father David Cooper, president of the Milwaukee Archdiocese Priests Alliance. “The language of prayer is supposed to be evocative, graceful, uplifting. This reads like clunk-clunk-clunk-bang-boom.”

“Anytime there are changes, people go through the process of being angry and sad,” responded Dean Daniels, who leads the archdiocese’s office of worship. “But the Church has been changing forever. It’s a dynamic, living organism.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Worship
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To: trisham; jtal
jtal told them to Shut Their Faces Up.

Right?

21 posted on 08/05/2010 3:01:29 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: fire4effect
What's a "neo-catholic"?

What's a "trad"?

All I know about are Catholics. Some assist at Mass according to the Ordinary Form, some according to the Extraordinary Form, some according to the Anglican Usage, and some according to various Eastern Liturgies.

But we're all Catholic.

22 posted on 08/05/2010 3:04:34 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

I am very excited about it. Guess you might call me disobedient because I am already saying many of the new responses softly.


23 posted on 08/05/2010 3:51:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer
“Why, with everything else that's going on in the Church, do we have to rub salt in the wounds?”

Boohoohoo. These liberals have been rubbing salt in the wounds for too long. It is time to heal the wounds.

24 posted on 08/05/2010 4:01:52 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: NYer

“...said Father Alan Jurkus. “Why, with everything else that’s going on in the Church, do we have to rub salt in the wounds?”

“For some people this will be very unsettling,” added Father Ken Smits. “The real concern is among the parish priests, who will have to explain something many of them are not in favor of.””

These are only two of many priests who really need to be prayed for. Check out this priest in Nashville:

http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2010/08/holy-heretic-batman.html#comments

Sad....very sad....


25 posted on 08/05/2010 4:19:16 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: NYer

It would appear that that most embarrassed would be those who introduced or were silent with debut of the Novus Ordo in the 1960’s to the chagrin of the many. Apologies need to be addressed to those who had to endure this horrible translation for these many decades. Perhaps a show trial or two for the ones responsible for this atrocity.


26 posted on 08/05/2010 4:52:27 PM PDT by bronx2 (while Jesus is the Alpha /Omega He has given us rituals which you reject to obtain the graces as to)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

The reformers sure didn’t hesitate to dump a liturgy that was familiar to and loved by hundreds of millions of Catholics and impose on them one that was to the taste of the reformers. As to the “English” that the Wisconsin priests is so attached to, It is on a par with the lyrics of the guitar songs of those days.


27 posted on 08/05/2010 5:09:00 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

righto :-)


28 posted on 08/05/2010 5:52:01 PM PDT by jtal
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To: NYer

Out, damn’d heretic! out, I say!—One; two: why, then ‘tis time to do’t.—Hell is murky.—Fie, my lord, fie, a soldier, and afeard? What need we fear who knows it?

Will no-one rid Christianity of these troublesome heretics?


29 posted on 08/05/2010 6:48:30 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: NYer

The progressives had no problem sticking it to the traditionalists 40 years ago, now that the beauty of the liturgy is to be restored, I’m supposed to feel bad?


30 posted on 08/05/2010 7:22:18 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Secular conservatism is liberalism.)
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To: COBOL2Java

Do they have a hymnal?


31 posted on 08/05/2010 7:25:20 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Secular conservatism is liberalism.)
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To: NYer
“You can call it whatever you like, but it's not English,” said Father David Cooper, president of the Milwaukee Archdiocese Priests Alliance. “The language of prayer is supposed to be evocative, graceful, uplifting. This reads like clunk-clunk-clunk-bang-boom.”

Actually, that's more like what we've been living with the for the last 30 years.

I miss the beauty in the Scriptures that was sacrificed for 'inclusive' language, and simplification.

32 posted on 08/05/2010 8:26:28 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: TradicalRC
Do they have a hymnal?

I'm an interpreter for the deaf and yes, we sing.

33 posted on 08/06/2010 3:56:29 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: ArrogantBustard; jtal

I hope so.


34 posted on 08/06/2010 5:56:46 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Most (I’m not exaggerating) Milwaukee priests are working for the other side. Weakland is the gift that keeps on giving.


35 posted on 11/23/2011 7:29:49 PM PST by schmootman
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To: NYer
I am looking forward to the new Liturgy. I just hope we never return to the late ‘60s when we were singing campfire songs in church like “Kumbaya” and “Michael, Row Your Boat Ashore”.
36 posted on 11/23/2011 7:44:35 PM PST by mtg
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To: NYer

Through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault.


37 posted on 11/23/2011 8:26:58 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

**“The language of prayer is supposed to be evocative, graceful, uplifting. **

And the new translation is graceful, uplifting and prayerful.

Just remember these three things and listen for them.

Longer sentences
Higher linguistic register
More accurate to the Latin from where it all came.

I think it’s beautiful.


38 posted on 11/23/2011 8:29:07 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

It won’t be difficulot to adjust to. The prayers are so close to the older missals that we all grew up with.


39 posted on 11/23/2011 8:30:26 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Frogjerk

Actually most of the changes are for the priest.


40 posted on 11/23/2011 8:31:07 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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