Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief
The ultimate intention of Catholicism is the restoration of the Holy Roman Empire. That has always been the ambition, at least covertly, but now it is being promoted overtly and openly.
The purpose of this article is only to make that intention clear. It is not a criticism of Catholics or Catholicism (unless you happen to think a Catholic dictatorship is not a good thing).
The most important point is to understand that when a Catholic talks about liberty or freedom, it is not individual liberty that is meant, not the freedom to live one's life as a responsible individual with the freedom to believe as one chooses, not the freedom to pursue happiness, not the freedom to produce and keep what one has produced as their property. What Catholicism means by freedom, is freedom to be a Catholic, in obedience to the dictates of Rome.
The Intentions Made Plain
The following is from the book Revolution and Counter-Revolution:
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"B. Catholic Culture and Civilization
"Therefore, the ideal of the Counter-Revolution is to restore and promote Catholic culture and civilization. This theme would not be sufficiently enunciated if it did not contain a definition of what we understand by Catholic culture and Catholic civilization. We realize that the terms civilization and culture are used in many different senses. Obviously, it is not our intention here to take a position on a question of terminology. We limit ourselves to using these words as relatively precise labels to indicate certain realities. We are more concerned with providing a sound idea of these realities than with debating terminology.
"A soul in the state of grace possesses all virtues to a greater or lesser degree. Illuminated by faith, it has the elements to form the only true vision of the universe.
"The fundamental element of Catholic culture is the vision of the universe elaborated according to the doctrine of the Church. This culture includes not only the learning, that is, the possession of the information needed for such an elaboration, but also the analysis and coordination of this information according to Catholic doctrine. This culture is not restricted to the theological, philosophical, or scientific field, but encompasses the breadth of human knowledge; it is reflected in the arts and implies the affirmation of values that permeate all aspects of life.
"Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church.
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Got that? "Catholic civilization is the structuring of all human relations, of all human institutions, and of the State itself according to the doctrine of the Church." The other name for this is called "totalitarianism," the complete rule of every aspect of life.
This book and WEB sites like that where it is found are spreading like wildfire. These people do not believe the hope of America is the restoration of the liberties the founders sought to guarantee, these people believe the only hope for America is Fatima. Really!
In Their Own Words
The following is from the site, "RealCatholicTV." It is a plain call for a "benevolent dictatorship, a Catholic monarch;" their own words. They even suggest that when the "Lord's Payer," is recited, it is just such a Catholic dictatorship that is being prayed for.
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Two Comments
First, in this country, freedom of speech means that anyone may express any view no matter how much anyone else disagrees with that view, or is offended by it. I totally defend that meaning of freedom of speech.
This is what Catholics believe, and quite frankly, I do not see how any consistent Catholic could disagree with it, though I suspect some may. I have no objection to their promoting those views, because it is what they believe. Quite frankly I am delighted they are expressing them openly. For one thing, it makes it much easier to understand Catholic dialog, and what they mean by the words they use.
Secondly, I think if their views were actually implemented, it would mean the end true freedom, of course, but I do not believe there is any such danger.
Come on , she is going to be declared a saint by the Catholic church and is already called blessed and treated as a saint by most Catholics and many protestants as well ..
Did I say that? Do two wrongs make it right? See my post #7008.
So you do not believe in naming people "saints"and you would never pray to one .
It's not my list, but Paul's, and it lists doesn't list "fruits of the Holy Spirit" but sinful acts (works) that will keep you from going to heaven if you continue in them, and I have yet to see a Christian who doesn't continue in them.
And yet no one is "spotless" but Christ. But Paul still sees Christians who are saved by grace. So how does that work?
It "works" by God forgiving you when you accept faith (justification), provided you do not continue in sin and walk after Christ, as Paul says clearly, just as that latter-day add-on to John's Gospel says "I do not condemn you either. Go and sin no more." [see Pericope Adulterae]
Indeed, Salvation is not unconditional or we would be universalists. No where in scripture does it say works save us or add to it.. but you are right, it is not unconditional. It is based on faith through grace .. not works
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Jhn 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
Jhn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
Jhn 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Jhn 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
Jhn 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Jhn 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Really?
God declares men righteous on the basis of the good work of Christ within them
In western theology, God declares you innocent (just) when you accept faith. Your sins up to that point are forgiven and you are given a new life as a new person (in other words, your rap sheet is wiped clean), a clean slate, when in fact you deserve none of it.
That's why it's called God's mercy (hello!), a pardon. Provided you continue this new life dead to sin, you are acceptable to God. But not if you contionue to sin.
Paul makes it very clear that you must continue to be spotless now that you were born again spotless, that you proclaim your faithfulness to God, and are able, and obligated to make choices pleasing to God—because you, a slave to righteousness !
Your faith is your get-out-of-jail card paid for by Christ. It's not a do-whatever-you-wish pass, and Paul makes that very clear in those verses I gave you; the message is: stop sinning and imitate Christ" or you will not make it into the kingdom of heaven.
You bet. And with the free, unearned gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit, men will be able to resist such temptations
When? Being a slave to righteousness, a Christian cannot but make choices that please God, just as one who is a slave to wickedness can never please God. There is nothing in-between provided for in the Bible; you can not serve two masters, but you are a slave either to one or the other. Either you sin or you don't.
So, Christians who continue to sin are not slaves to righteousness and that means their faith is not true faith or else they would no longer be able to sin; they would be dead to sin, as Paul says. And I have to yet to see a Christian who is dead to sin (and walks on water).
Except that Christians I have known and known of are not dead to sins. So, I don't know why they think this verse would apply to them unless they are in denial.
Nope. Protestants say they hope she came to faith in Christ before her last breathe because without that faith she is in a whole lot of hurt.
Again, it's up to God and you must believe that with God everything is possible and that he is the final arbiter of all things and that it is not our business to speculate where Mother Theresa's soul is. If anything, a true Christian can only say "God have mercy on us sinners," and "Thy will be done."
Preaching and judging is not the same. The scriptures do not tell you to speculate where someone's soul might be.
Declaring soemone a siant is a belief that soemone was conformed to the likeness of Christ. It is a hope (faith, trust), not a judgment. Nevertheless, I still it's wrong to speculate on the final destiny of anyone soul.
So you do not believe in naming people "saints"and you would never pray to one .
I do not, never have and never will.
Preaching and judging are not the same.
Amen.
And, many times I would choose to be spared “preaching” from self-appointed preachers.
Worth repeating.
Nah! That's not my job. Just keep praying to your historically fictional Saints as well as those based on a factual history. They'll be equally effective.
Here is a nice Catholic girls college you can keep in mind for your female children,relatives or friends. The fact that it is named after a fictional person is of no importance. It is the thought that counts.
The College of (Fictional) Saint Catherine
The College, now a University, still exists I wonder what they teach about 'Saint Catherine' now?
You have it exactly backwards. Adam and Eve were created without the ability to sin because they did not know the difference between right and wrong until they partook of the fruit of the tree of knowledge. Actual sin is any willful thought, desire, word, action or omission forbidden by the law of God.
No, by his grace you are not condemned (yet), even though you deserve it. Paul tells you that those Christians who continue to sin (cheat God) will not make it to the kingdom of heaven. Those who are faithful (those who are true to God) will not cheat God, just as the faithful spouse will not cheat her loved one.
You can't be faithful a little bit; you are either faithful or you are not. You either cheat or you don't. Do you cheat God? If you do, how can you be "faithful" to him?
And Paul is telling you that if you continue to sin there is no faith in you. And there is no heaven for you. Yes, if you are faithful you are saved. But you can't be faithful and cheat (sin).
Your are told "Go and sin no more." "Be perfect (faithful) as your Father in heaven is perfect." Otherwise one is only impersonating a Christian.
Only when reading your posts, madam, it doesn’t warrant much else. You’ve been given the information you demand by others, then claim that your demands are ignored. It’s laughable.
I find it sad that so many so called “Christians” spend all of their time tearing down others including the deceased then screech about being picked on. Sounds just like a politician.
As I said previously, if this were my only example of what a Christian is, I’d run.
Nice try, St. Catherine of Alexandria was reaffirmed in 2002.
God made men and women to unite in marriage
Bonus points if you can find: "He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."
“Your are told “Go and sin no more.””
Actual sin is any willful thought, desire, word, action or ommission forbidden by the law of God.
I.PRIDE: Unrestrained appreciation of our own worth.
II.GREED: Immoderate desire for earthly goods.
III.LUST: Hankering for impure pleasures.
IV.ANGER: Inordinate desire for revenge.
V.GLUTTONY: Unrestrained use of food and drink.
VI.ENVY: Sorrow over another’s good fortune.
VII.SLOTH: Laxity in keeping the Faith and the practice of virtue, due to the effort involved.
THE FOUR SINS CRYING TO HEAVEN FOR VENGEANCE
I.Willful murder (including abortion)
II.The sin of Sodom.
III.Oppression of the poor.
IV.Defrauding laborers of their wages.
THE SIX SINS AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT
I.Presumption of God’s mercy.
II.Despair.
III.Impugning the known truth.
IV.Envy at another’s spiritual good.
V.Obstinacy in sin.
VI.Final impenitence.
NINE WAYS OF BEING ACCESSORY TO ANOTHER’S SIN
I.By counsel.
II.By command.
III.By consent.
IV.By provocation.
V.By praise or flattery.
VI.By concealment.
VII.By partaking.
VIII.By silence.
IX.By defense of the ill done
Monasteries are for men who prefer solitude and the company of other men.
Just when I thought you couldn't go any lower....but then again, the elect are exempt for consequences of sin, aren't they.
So far the majority of your posts are weak one-liners; sarcastic “oh, yeah?”
If and when you get around to saying something Scriptural, let us know.
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