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Intended Catholic Dictatorship
Independent Individualist ^ | 8/27/10 | Reginald Firehammer

Posted on 08/27/2010 11:45:13 AM PDT by Hank Kerchief

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To: TSgt

I believe in the trinity: God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. That said, Mary was nothing more than a human vessel for delivery of God the Son also known as Jesus.

Catholics put her on par with Jesus which is an incredible insult to Him. To say the she could intercede on our behalf is a disgrace to Jesus’s ultimate sacrifice.

But hey, keep up with your hail Marys if it makes you feel better.


AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!


13,241 posted on 10/19/2010 6:53:01 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: OLD REGGIE

Correct. I cannot argue with the numbers, yet overall, the percentage, even as the country has grown in population, has remained stable.


13,242 posted on 10/19/2010 6:53:04 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: smvoice

INDEED.


13,243 posted on 10/19/2010 6:53:42 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
BTW, If you could show me, even in the Vatican rubber 'Bible' where rank hypocrisy is a fruit of Holy Spirit, I'd be grateful.

The only rubber bibles I'm aware of are those in the snake handling division of the Pentecostals. Can't help you there. However, I will say that the lady has manned up and you haven't. What does she have that you don't?

13,244 posted on 10/19/2010 6:56:22 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: boatbums

You’re worth it.


13,245 posted on 10/19/2010 6:57:34 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: OpusatFR
“Ohh how holy ! (is that what I am supposed to say??)”
Nope. I just posted at what I do. I don’t particularly need your approval or disdain or comment or any humans for that matter.

Then why tell us?

Mat 6:5 ¶ And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Read it again. He knelt.

You need to read it again ... no where in that chapter does it say Jesus knelt.. we do not get to write in what we like.. It says He fell on His face.. that is a prostrate position not kneeling.. No where does jesus ever teach that kneeling is the correct or preferred prayer position..

The idea that God is “impressed” is such an alien thought to my mind, it must be the domain of the “elect” Calvinists thinking that the Holy One could be “impressed.”

Actually I would say Calvinists believe the only thing that pleases God is His work in us .. We can not work our way to heaven or earn points by going to church or receiving a sacrament or a prostrate prayer position.. grace is God's unmerited favor ..the key word being unmerited..

13,246 posted on 10/19/2010 6:58:30 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Some call me harpy..God calls me His)
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To: MarkBsnr
Not fully, no. It contains elements of the Gospels, certainly. It references more than it says, shall we say?

Catholics think the "gospel" is Matt, Mark ,Luke and John.. But Jesus said He was preaching this gospel long before the books were written.. What was the gospel Jesus preached? What is missing in Paul's summary ?

13,247 posted on 10/19/2010 7:01:50 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Some call me harpy..God calls me His)
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To: Quix

How much longer O Quix?


13,248 posted on 10/19/2010 7:02:50 PM PDT by Jaded (Stumbling blocks ALL AROUND, some of them camouflaged well. My toes hurt, but I got past them.)
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To: Cronos
True, but this is spun into things like the JWs, into Seventh Day Adventists, into Christian Scientists. Do we take the concept of the Trinity to be one of the fundamental doctrines? If yes, then what say we to Unitarians, for example.

Nobody can prevent anyone from perverting the Scriptures, but we DO have them so that we have the standard for determining what is the truth. There have been hundreds of "heretical" teachings over the centuries (millennia, actually) but we STILL know what is the orthodox Christian faith. I give credit where credit is due and we have the faith of old to thank for it. God said he would preserve his truth and he keeps his word. This is not to say everything one particular segment of Christianity is superior to another or that any one has not made mistakes in other areas, just that the basics that are clearly laid out in Scripture have not and cannot change regardless of what label any one may choose.

13,249 posted on 10/19/2010 7:04:29 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Thou shalt not feed the trolls.
13,250 posted on 10/19/2010 7:07:49 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: RnMomof7; MarkBsnr
But Jesus said He was preaching this gospel long before the books were written.

He said that? He could have preached after the books about his preaching, life and death were written?

This is nonsensical and it doesn't help the case from a Paulinian view either.

13,251 posted on 10/19/2010 7:10:56 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Natural Law
We wants the rubber bible, my precioussss, those Catholicses stole it, yesss, yesss, they are wicked, tricksy and falssssse. We wants it, yesss, my precioussss. Cursssse them, we hatesss them. Catholicses, we hatessss you forever, cursssse you, cursssse you, gollum, gollum.


13,252 posted on 10/19/2010 7:25:17 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: kosta50
No eyewitnesses are named.

Just for starters:

Luke 1:1-5

Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

Mark 1:1-5

The beginning of the gospel about Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It is written in Isaiah the prophet:
"I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way"— "a voice of one calling in the desert, 'Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him.' "
And so John came, baptizing in the desert region and preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. The whole Judean countryside and all the people of Jerusalem went out to him. Confessing their sins, they were baptized by him in the Jordan River.

13,253 posted on 10/19/2010 7:25:27 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: RnMomof7
Catholics think the "gospel" is Matt, Mark ,Luke and John.. But Jesus said He was preaching this gospel long before the books were written.. What was the gospel Jesus preached? What is missing in Paul's summary ?

The Gospel, according to the Church were completely covered in the four Gospels. Nothing is, to Church thinking, missing. The entire preaching of Jesus is there. Tell you what, why don't you summarize the differences between Jesus and Paul and get back to us. It may take you a while, you know...

13,254 posted on 10/19/2010 7:28:52 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

My friend, you speak wisdom. And I am foolish. How shall I reconcile the two, if not for the intervention of friends?


13,255 posted on 10/19/2010 7:29:58 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Mental reservation? Hmmm...that conjures up visions of a kindly doctor saying, “This psych ward will be your home as long as the drugs flow and until the craziness goes”.
13,256 posted on 10/19/2010 7:33:48 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: boatbums; kosta50

Kosta said that no eyewitnesses were named.

You have not named any, especially any individuals apart from the heart of Christianity. Where is the equivalent of Cato? Why has is there nothing from Claudius, who wrote extensively before being thrust into the Emperor’s seat? Where even, are the anti Christian Jewish writings, along with their authors?


13,257 posted on 10/19/2010 7:34:26 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (A puritan is a person who pours righteous indignation into the wrong things.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Did you get that picture from Father Funes ?
Is that one of his “brother extraterrestrials” he published about in the Vatican paper ?


13,258 posted on 10/19/2010 7:49:05 PM PDT by Lera
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To: count-your-change
The word means storage room. He also says to close the door. Do you think they really had their storage rooms lit? At any rate, it doesn't matter if it is a "dark corner" or not, it is the most isolated part of the house where no one can see you (and might as well be a dark corner). That's where Jesus says you ought to pray, not in synagogues or in public.
13,259 posted on 10/19/2010 7:50:04 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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To: D-fendr
[Jospehus] was, putting it mildly, often opportunistic and prone to please the powers he served. So we have the problem of his credibility. We can't take his histories as the gospel truth (pun intended)

I couldn't have said it better. Also some of his work is suspected to be forgery.

13,260 posted on 10/19/2010 7:53:05 PM PDT by kosta50 (God is tired of repenting -- Jeremiah 15:6, KJV)
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