Posted on 09/03/2010 4:39:23 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/15295.html
Heard Beck read this the other morning on radio; he said “he’s the only guy who really gets it.”
Some Freepers remind me of a “Christian” commenting in a local newsletter and complaining about how distasteful it was to have a disfigured man like Dave Roever representing Chistianity.
Apparently God should be embarrassed by men like Roever.
There is a fundamental contradiction in the Beckian renewal which I have no doubt the progressives will exploit to crumble the conservative renewal. Allow me to elaborate because this is a very subtle yet devastating contradiction.
The fundamental premise to Mormonism is that ALL of Christianity was in 100% apostasy until the advent of Joseph Smith and his 'restoration of true Christianity'. Yet Beck is touting to the max the Christian founding principles of this antion and the founders. Unfortunately for Glenn Beck, Mormonism wasn't invented until ~1830, so the Christianity of the Founders that Mister Beck touts was an apostasy according to the religion he so strongly believes in!
This contradiction is so glaring once one delves into it that the foundations of Beck's rally are in question. So, what might be the motivation for a rally which is founded in a contradiction for the man who brought it to fruition? I have three possible theories, but have not settled upon which is the most likely cause du jour.
One aspect of Beck's rally that continues to disturb me is the inclusion of an Islamic Imam in the Black Robed Brigade! If one knows whom were the original Black Robed Regiment, and is aware of Beck's own emphasis of their importance to the Christian principles reflected in the founders' documents which established this nation, then to include an Imam of Islam (which reveres taqiyya when dealing with what Islam calls infidels, and that's all who are not Islamic) in this Christian lookalike brigade is to at once sully the principle behind the original regiment!
Islam is a far cry from Christian. In fact, the vast majority of Imams today are the product of madrassas funded by the Saudis and preaching the 'violence if need be' conversion of the whole world to Islam as a Wahhabi manifest destiny! Beck spent the better part of a week recently deriding manifest destiny as an evil opposite to Divine Providence.
I was initially alerted while listening to the taped presentation of the rally ... I was unable to attend, though I would have gone had it been possible, and would have been put off from the experience within the first three minutes! I wonder if 500,000+ folks attending actually caught the incursion of mormonism in the first few minutes, or noticed the opening prayer being posed to 'gods'?
Watching the taped replay these are much more obvious. And if one doubts that 'gods' were being offered up in the opening prayer, listen repeatedly to the last line ... 'one nation under gods'. This is not a speech defect in the man offering the prayer. He was purposely invoking ecumenism, perniciously as it were.
Truly, this is a battle between principalities and powers of the air AND Christ's own. How many of His Church will realize the deceits undergirding this call to 'ecumenical renewal'?
Congressmen don’t read bills yet vote yes and seemed surprised when we don’t like the contents, article writers don’t watch the program but right the reviews and expect us to follow their recommendations.
This nation needs a leader who is able to inspire and invigorate the electorate, a leader who is Christian, a follower of the Jesus Christ of the Bible.
Beck is setting himself up as that person. While it’s hard to disagree with most of his political philosophy and hard to disagree with most of his generic statements based on the Bible, after all we, as Christians, do agree with those parts of the KJV Bible, copied word for word from the KJV by Joseph Smith, there is much more to come that was invented by the same J. Smith, that is abhorrent and even blasphemous, to Bible believing Christians.
I have a basic distrust of anyone proclaiming Christianity from the view point of a Mormon. The Bible says that even Satan knows and can quote scripture and does so if he can pervert it to his own advantage.
This nation needs a leader who is able to inspire and invigorate the electorate, a leader who is Christian, a follower of the Jesus Christ of the Bible.
Beck is setting himself up as that person. While it’s hard to disagree with most of his political philosophy and hard to disagree with most of his generic statements based on the Bible, after all we, as Christians, do agree with those parts of the KJV Bible, copied word for word from the KJV by Joseph Smith, there is much more to come that was invented by the same J. Smith, that is abhorrent and even blasphemous, to Bible believing Christians.
I have a basic distrust of anyone proclaiming Christianity from the view point of a Mormon. The Bible says that even Satan knows and can quote scripture and does so if he can pervert it to his own advantage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47V-dpiLM78&feature=related
That is not what I heard and I have replayed and replayed.
Blah blah blah... Whatever
Yet another phony claiming to speak for a segment of the religious community. Where was this level of rant when 0bama was elected? What about bj Clinton and his bs? What about Barney frank? Pelosi and her rantings? Hollywood?
I’m not very religious at all... And *I* hold exception to the activities of these people long before anything GBeck is doing.
At 6:43 the word God as addressed by the Pilgrims was pronounced clearly with no “s” sound on the end, but moments later the prayer has gods and that follows through to the closing sentence nearly every time God is mentioned.
From looking @ your posts from years, BM, I haven't seen you use words like preeminence...transcend...Overlords" (see below).
He is nuking out the foundations of the oppositions moral preeminence, the very thing I proposed in this post.
Ronald Reagan said we would not defeat Communism, we would transcend it.
Beck is aiming to have America do the same thing to its decaying class of Overlords, transcend them.
Beck is prepping the battlefield for a generation-long battle.
He is that very American thing: A practical visionary.
My question is: Was this your original writing (& rest of post #17), or are you quoting non-mentioned sources again?
The genesis of America was fraught with very similar issues. refugees and expatriots, common and lordly struggled with merging their faiths, or lack thereof in a common purpose.
The deists ( don’t hear much about them lately) were supposedly a significant part of the intellectual firepower of the Constitution’s design.
The flag of the USA and the Cross of Jesus are two distinct things. I was born in a country where they didn’t diverge much; I would like to think they won’t for a while, that we can kick this can down the road aways!
Bottom line is they will, on God’s time and we best be prepared.
Is that what Glenn Beck is? a televangelist?
Envy is so unbecoming. Not surprising but still unbecoming.
Watch the show a few times—give up an hour or two—then judge. the old anti-Mormonism used to take down Mitt Romney will not work with Beck. He is a different kind of person.
The terrible thing about being on the side of truth is knowing you will have to say “I told you so.”
>>Are you first a citizen of Heaven or are you first a citizen of this republic?<<
No lover of freedom can be one without the other. “Render unto God the things that are God’s; and unto Ceasar, the things that are Caesar’s.”
This appears to be another of those “I don’t watch his show, but these are the things that are wrong” articles. “Take the beam out of thy own eye first”
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