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Did Mary retain her virginal integrity while giving birth to Jesus?
Catholic Bridge ^ | David MacDonald

Posted on 10/06/2010 7:56:37 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: Mad Dawg; Tax-chick
I'll chime in here just to say that my first labor and delivery was a walk in the park. Water broke at 5, didn't feel a contraction til 9, baby born at 11. Hurt briefly at transition (but not after I was told I was 10 and +2) and again briefly at the delivery of the shoulders (I swear that girl has shoulders like a fullback).

It runs in the family. My father was born accidentally in the bathtub because his mom thought she had a tummyache and a nice hot bath would help. It did help, but not the way she expected . . . .

Never assisted at a lambing but have at several foalings and a buncha dogs and cats. The occasional prima donna, but most seem to have very little if any difficulty. There was a mare who wanted me to hold her head in my lap, rub her ears, and murmur, "There, there" but she was a spoiled brat.

341 posted on 10/09/2010 5:43:25 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)y)
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To: Iscool
Then why do you guys side with Aquinas???

Short answer: because he makes way more sense (and knows way more Bible) than a lot of the other side does.

You guys don't argue from scripture because you can't...You argue from your human reasoning and your catechism...

See? Look at that: High School, at the very best -- at the most mature. It's a waste of time even to attempt to deal with this kind of thing.

Your last paragraph may be what our approach looks like to you, but it is not what our approach looks like to me, either in the little that I know of the development of Catholic thought or in my own personal turning away from the Sola Scriptura and Mostly Calvin view to Catholicism.

So if your discourse is going to be limited to remarks of that kind, I would suggest hanging out with people who share your view, and you can all snicker at and shake your heads about us. I used to walk by people like that on my way to the shops. They sneer, make catcalls, and laugh; I ignore. Everybody's happy.

But when the approach to discourse appears to me to be "Find some outrageous thing to say, and say it as offensively as you can," AND when the standard by which success is measured is not truth but the ability to make coarse and insulting statements, well, I have no interest in engaging. It just doesn't appeal to me, and I can see no duty to do this. So I won't.

342 posted on 10/09/2010 6:37:48 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Mad Dawg

We’ve never had a pet give birth, except for a couple of lizards who laid an egg, having conceived before we bought them. Anoreth and Bill tried to raise the babies, but it’s very hard when they’re out of their natural habitat, poor little things.

We haven’t bred any of our other lizards, partly because we’d have a hard time dealing with the natural “wastage.” A mother chameleon or dragon might not care if 15 out of 30 babies die, but I’d have a tizzy over each one. And then, if you sell the survivors, owners can’t keep half of them alive.

I suspect that mother lizards don’t name their babies after heavy metal guitarists. Once you give the stupid reptile a name, you’re emotionally involved until the end.


343 posted on 10/09/2010 7:34:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If the train leaves Hartford on May Day, how many turkeys will have snowballs in the Bahamas?)
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To: Politicalmom

Thanks for that info.


344 posted on 10/10/2010 9:30:25 AM PDT by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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To: Tax-chick
I just can't get across the gap between the warm bloods and the cold bloods. Don't feel the slightest sympathy for any reptile . . . although I certainly haven't had the chance to develop it because we have never had any around.

It's bad enough having to deal with the fact that you occasionally lose a kitten and you almost always lose a puppy out of any given litter. Arguably the best Lab breeder in the U.S. lost two pups out of my Ruby-dog's litter of 8.

Feeling sorry for lizards and snakes would have me a basket case!! :-D

345 posted on 10/10/2010 12:22:05 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)y)
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To: Quix
you’re one of the few voices of sanity amongst the RC’s hereon

Ahem. I thought we was FRiends ... *sniffle*.

346 posted on 10/10/2010 12:56:12 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If the train leaves Hartford on May Day, how many turkeys will have snowballs in the Bahamas?)
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To: AnAmericanMother

You’re a classist! Reptilia are as cuddly as the majority of mammalia.

Speaking of which, DP just found one of our tropical anoles looking rather peaked. At first, he accused Bill and Tom of not feeding them enough, but then he noticed that the other two were looking fat and frisky. This third one wasn’t getting to the crickets quickly enough!

He put it in the cage with the chameleon, who gets lots of crickets and doesn’t move very fast.


347 posted on 10/10/2010 1:05:13 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If the train leaves Hartford on May Day, how many turkeys will have snowballs in the Bahamas?)
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To: Tax-chick

O, I’m worse than that; I’m a speciesist!


348 posted on 10/10/2010 2:46:02 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)y)
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To: Tax-chick

Who gave you the heresy that I was excluding you from the voices of sanity chorus?

LOL.

You remain beloved.


349 posted on 10/10/2010 2:53:09 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thank you! - just checking. I’m going through a needy phase, so people have to tell me I’m important ;-).


350 posted on 10/10/2010 2:56:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If the train leaves Hartford on May Day, how many turkeys will have snowballs in the Bahamas?)
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To: All
I think anyone can go for a break on these threads.

A good Catholic Joke

The Pope and Nancy Pelosi are on the same stage in Yankee Stadium in front of a huge crowd.

The Pope leans towards Mrs. Pelosi and said, "Do you know that with one little wave of my hand I can make every person in this crowd go wild with joy? This joy will not be a momentary display, but will go deep into their hearts and they'll forever speak of this day and rejoice!"

Pelosi replied, "I seriously doubt that with one little wave of your hand? Show me!"

So the Pope backhanded the b..tch!

AND THE CROWD ROARED & CHEERED WILDLY! Kind of brings a tear to your eyes, doesn't it?

351 posted on 10/10/2010 3:30:27 PM PDT by johngrace (God so loved the world so he gave his only son! Praise Jesus and Hail Mary!)
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To: johngrace

LOL! (Well, to be honest, a big smile ;-).


352 posted on 10/10/2010 3:35:20 PM PDT by Tax-chick (If the train leaves Hartford on May Day, how many turkeys will have snowballs in the Bahamas?)
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To: Tax-chick

I figure we’re all entitled to be needy now and then.

However, with tons of loveable family about . . . Goodness! I’d think you’d be drowning in affection and attention!

Regardless, you are respected and cared for by this Pentecostal . . . no matter what the other Proddys think. LOL.


353 posted on 10/10/2010 4:50:47 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: johngrace

Love it.

LOL.


354 posted on 10/10/2010 4:51:41 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Joya

290


355 posted on 12/18/2010 11:05:51 PM PST by Joya
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