Islamic And Mormonism Similarities: Similarities Between Joseph Smith and Muhammad

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[Colofornian]

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* "Modern Mohammedanism has its Mecca at Salt Lake... Clearly the Koran was Joseph Smith's model, so closely followed as to exclude even the poor pretension of originality in his foul 'revelations.' " (The Women of Mormonism, Frances E. Willard, 1882, Introduction, p. xvi)

* "The student of Mormonism will be struck with the similarity of experience and claims of Joseph Smith and Mohammed." (The Rocky Mountain Saints, T. B. H. Stenhouse 1873, p 2)

* "even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed" Gal 1:8

1. The followers of Muhammad and Joseph Smith both killed innocent "infidel" on the same date of 9/11. On September 11, 1857, Mormon militia massacred about 140 men, women and children under the authority of Brigham Young. However 17 very young children were spared and adopted into Mormon families. They were in fact sold to the highest Mormon family bidder and resold and traded many times afterwords. This event is called "The Mountain Meadows" massacre. Mormon leaders engaged in a deliberate rewriting of history to deny they were behind the murders. On September 11, 2001 Muhammad's followers, using the Koran as a guide, sent two airplanes into the World Trade Center killing 3000 innocent men, women and children. Muslims today have a PhD in rewriting history and preach in the mosques that Jews were actually driving the planes, not Muslim terrorists.

2. Both were visited by an angel. Joseph Smith was visited by the angel "Moroni" and Muhammad by Gabriel. Galatians 1:6-9 says, "I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; 7 which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you, and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed."

3. Both were given visions.

4. Both were told that no true religion existed on the earth. In the published account of his life, Joseph Smith related that he became very disturbed when he was a youth because of the "strife among the different denominations," and this "cry and tumult" led him to ask God "which of all the sects were right — and which I should join." He was told that he must "join none of them, for they were all wrong... that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt..." (Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith 2:8-19) N. J. Dawood says that Mohammed was also concerned with the fact that the Jews and Christians had "divided themselves into schismatic sects." In the scriptures given by Mohammed, we read: "Yet the Sects are divided concerning Jesus.... Truly, the unbelievers are in the grossest error." (The Koran, translated by N. J. Dawood, Surah 19, p. 34) In Surah 30, page 190, this warning appears: "Do not split up your religion into sects, each exulting in its own beliefs." In Surah 3, page 398, we read: "The only true faith in Allah's sight is Islam. Those to whom the Scriptures [i.e., Jews and Christians] were given disagreed among themselves through jealousy only after knowledge had been given them."

5. Both were to restore the long lost faith as the one true religion. Islam makes claim that Adam and Abraham were Muslims, a claim that is as ridiculous as it is undocumented from either history or archaeology. Mormons make the unsubstantiated claim that the church in the first century were Mormon.

6. Both wrote a book inspired by God.

7. Both claimed to be illiterate or uneducated and used this as proof the book was inspired. "How could an illiterate man write the Koran or the Book of Mormon?" Joseph Smith is claimed to have only grade three education.

8. Both claimed the Bible was lost, altered, corrupted and unreliable.

9. Both claimed their holy book was the most correct and perfect book on earth.

10. Both claimed that their new "Bible" was based upon a record stored in heaven. With Islam, it is the "mother book" that resides in heaven with God. With Mormonism, it is the golden Nephi plates that the angel Moroni took back to heaven.

11. Both claim that the version we have in our hands today are identical to what the prophet revealed and that parts are not lost, altered and corrupted. Of course the proof that these claims are invalid is found in two books. The Mormon claim is proven false by a book called "3913 Changes to Book of Mormon" by Sandra Tanner. The Islamic claim is proven false by a book (In Arabic language) called, "Making Easy the Readings of What Has Been Sent Down" by Muhammad Fahd Khaaruun. Both books show that the copy of the book of Mormon and the Koran used today is different from what was originally used when each religion was started.

12. Both claimed to be a final prophet of God.

13. Both claimed they were persecuted because of their pure faith.

14. Both were polygamists who had many wives.

15. Both borrowed from paganism/polytheism. Muhammad incorporated that polytheistic moon god called "Allah" and "Allah's three daughters" into Islam. Basically Muhammad chose Allah from within 350 known gods that were worshipped in Arabia and proclaimed the moon god to be the greatest and only God. Smith borrowed from a doctrine called "pyramidology" and the Masons and other magic systems.

16. Both received "after the fact corrective revelations" from God. Muhammad retracted the Satanic verses and Mormons retracted Smith's divine order mandating polygamy. But for Mormons it there is even a closer parallel. Sounds exactly like Muhammad and his satanic verses.

"As many false reports have been circulated respecting the following work, and also many unlawful measures taken by evil designing persons to destroy me, and also the work, I would inform you that I translated by the gift and power of God, and caused to be written, one hundred and sixteen pages, the which I took from the Book of Lehi... which said account, some person or persons have stolen and kept from me, notwithstanding my utmost exertions to recover it again — and being commanded of the Lord that I should not translate the same over again, for Satan had put it into their hearts to tempt the Lord their God, by altering the words, that they did read contrary from that which I translated and caused to be written; and if I should bring forth the same words again, or, in other words, if I should translate the same over, they would publish that which they had stolen, and Satan would stir up the hearts of this generation, that they might not receive this work: but behold, the Lord said unto me, I will not suffer that Satan shall accomplish his evil design in this thing: therefore thou shalt translate from the plates of Nephi, until ye come to that which ye have translated... I will shew unto them that my wisdom is greater than the cunning of the Devil." (Book of Mormon, 1830 edition, Preface)

17. Immediately after the death of Muhammad and Smith, a fight broke out from among the "faithful converts" as to who would succeed Muhammad and Smith. Both groups were plunged into irreparable division that has endured ever since. Islam and Mormonism both have squabbles among themselves as to who is the one true splinter group of their prophet!

18. Mormons, contrary to the Bible, "baptize the dead" by gathering genealogies of all men who lived on earth. This contradicts the Bible: "But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the Law, for they are unprofitable and worthless." Tit 3:9 While the Bible says avoid focusing in Genealogies, the Mormon church makes it their central focus of mission. Mormons have even been criticized for baptizing, by proxy, the Jews had died in Nazi Holocaust camps. When lists of genealogies are collected, living Mormons are baptized, on behalf of, those on the lists, who have already died. In this way, Mormons view every man who lived, as being Mormons. In the same way Muslims claim that all men are born Muslims and when they learn the truth of Christianity, they are apostatizing from their first faith. Muslims re-write history by proclaiming Jesus and the Apostles were Muslims in a similar way Mormons baptize Jews (for example) with the expectation they will be Mormons in the next life. Yet gathering of large genealogical lists no more makes dead people Mormons in the next life, than re-writing history makes Jesus into a Muslim.

19. Both the Islam and Mormon religions have those who follow the "original doctrine" of the founding leaders and like these founding leaders, are violent, polygamists, and have revelations justifying their evil actions.

20. Both Muslims and Mormons (and Jehovah's Witnesses) have progressive revelation. Jw’s call it "new light". Muslims call it "Nasikh". Jehovah’s Witnesses were once instructed to celebrated Christmas, birthdays and salute the flag, but "new light" changed all that. Mormons like all Muslims, were originally polygamists until "The Manifesto" against polygamy came as a revelation to John Taylor, over 40 years after Smith's death, on the eve of the US government outlawing the practice of polygamy. New revelation always replaces older revelation that became inconvenient to the prophet.

[reaganaut]

you sure about that? Some LDS have been told to take a hike, esp after they accused us ‘antis’ of arson and planning murder.

Several years ago, the LDS were allowed to spread their propaganda on FR freely, but that has changed and Christians are now allowed to counter them.

[greyfoxx39]

SEEKERS OF TRUTH

If you peruse the Free Republic religion forums you will notice a pattern. There’s a mormon poster here that spends a great deal of his time posting . He posts regurgitated propaganda on an almost daily basis.

These  multiple spam messages do not address the many examples of mormon doctrine that are posted directly from mormon scriptures and the statements of mormon leaders.

This must lead you to realize that there is NO legitimate method for FR mormons to address the words of their scriptures and leaders in an attempt to paint the mormon religion as Christian.  In fact, statements from mormon doctrine and leaders can ONLY show that these doctrines and leaders were RABIDLY ANTI-CHRISTIAN, from the founder Joseph Smith down through more than 180 years.

Mormonism is attempting to co-opt the Christian message and twist it to include this anti-Christian doctrine so that the world will accept the demand of the mormon church that it be included in the Christian community. 

Don't fall for the lies. Your eternal soul is at risk.

Are you willing to do for the truth what the cults do for a lie? If you REALLY want to know about mormonism..click here

[Red Badger]

I am not a Mormon, but the ones I know are god fearing people.
CHRISTIANS should not be against each other. I know many Protestant people who say bad things about Catholics and vice versa. It is not good...

[SENTINEL]

Mormon FOUNDERS THEMSELVES spoke endlessly about how they were not Christian, about how Islam was founded by God and Chirstianity was an abomination. These were the same men who claimed to have recieved these things FACE to FACE from God.

The mormon heirarchy of today hides these facts from members.

If you have not been a member, you simply cannot comprehend the severity of the burden of mormonism. 30-50 HOURS A WEEK of free labor, 10% (of gross) tithe with a year end tihing audit, a day's pay once a month for fast offering, and GUILT, GUILT, GUILT mixed in with never ending deceit and false doctrine.

Many members are good people and are all God' s children. They are being led straight to hell with secret masonic and occult temple practices (which you have not witnessed, I have), etc. We are trying to save them, as Christ tried to save the Jews during his time, because we love them.

[ejonesie22]

Only problem with your statmentsment...

Unlike Catholic and Protestants (as well Orthodox), Mormons aren't Christians. Indeed this is one fact we all agree upon in the rather diverse body of Christ.

Look past the fancy buildings and the pretty pictures put forth my the LDS PR department.

We agree there are many good people in the LDS, what we don't agree with is letting them march straight to hell whilst we act all politically correct or let the Mormon organization slander our lord and savior with it's twisted doctrines and practices.

[Red Badger]

Many Baptist churches do these same things, especially the independents.
I QUIT a Baptist church when they wanted to see my paycheck stub.....

[reaganaut]

I agree that Christians should not be against each other, but Mormons ARE NOT CHRISTIANS. Christians ARE called to speak out against blasphemy and false teachings which is what we are doing.

I speak from experience when I affirm that Mormonism is in no way compatible with Biblical (traditional) Christianity (see my tagline).

[Paragon Defender]

You claim a first amendment right to publicly recruit here, and we will meet you sqaurely in response.

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Oh my flamboyant friend. I came to FR for the political side. Only then did I discover the anti-Mormon propaganda that is presented on a daily basis.

I am the one responding to the cult. Not you. I would have been happy to have just lurked on the political section.

I post links to the truth in response to the anti-Mormon gang that dwells here. I also share some great posts with my fellow Church members.

[Elsie]

These folks are down to earth nice, and respectful of others.

And they beleve a heresy.

What's yer point?

[Elsie]

 

The question is what would the mormons do if they no longer had to consider the opinions of Christians.

If the mormons or the muslims held the upper hand would we then see a return to polygamy with excess males being ostracised?

 

 

Good question!

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Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriages,

which laws have been pronounced constitutional by the court of last resort,

I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws,

and to use my influence with the members of the Church

over which I preside to have them do likewise.

 

Wilford Woodruff

President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 

September 24th, 1890

[reaganaut]

If you have not been a member, you simply cannot comprehend the severity of the burden of mormonism. 30-50 HOURS A WEEK of free labor, 10% (of gross) tithe with a year end tihing audit, a day’s pay once a month for fast offering, and GUILT, GUILT, GUILT mixed in with never ending deceit and false doctrine.

Many members are good people and are all God’ s children. They are being led straight to hell with secret masonic and occult temple practices (which you have not witnessed, I have), etc. We are trying to save them, as Christ tried to save the Jews during his time, because we love them.

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Sentinel is dead on in his description of both the burden of Mormonism and our motives. I, like Sentinel, used to be LDS and have witness the same things. He is not exaggerating at all.

Furthermore, the LDS reject the Christian doctrine of salvation by grace (as Christians define it) and instead seek to earn their salvation through the legalism of their church, their rules and regs, tithing, a 2 year mission and also seek to become Gods themselves.

I never heard the gospel of Grace UNTIL AFTER I LEFT MORMONISM - THEY NOT ONLY DO NOT TEACH IT, THEY TEACH AGAINST IT.

I have pinged other ex-mo’s who will tell you the same thing.

Don’t be fooled by the external appearances Mormonism puts forth, it is a bright shiny red apple on the outside but poisonous and rotten to the core on the inside.

[reaganaut]

Ping to 51

[SENTINEL]

So you are calling Biblical Christianity a cult, like FLDS/LDS founders Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.

Glad you did it in public writing, now your intent is clear.

The Pharasees called Christ flamboyant also...He could have healed the blind man without making a spit/mud ointment on a sunday.

I'll be seeing you.

[reaganaut]

I have been to many Baptist churches (including independent ones) and have never had that happen.

Vendome is IFB, what say you V about this?

And again, Baptists have paid clergy, not a volunteer force required to work 40+ hours a week. There is a huge difference - especially when it comes to doctrine.

[Elsie]

I'm not talking about their early history when they were being chased all across the country. Obviously they had to stand and fight at some point or they wouldn't be here.

No; they were creating havoc everywhere in the country.

Only a part of the 'mormons' followed B.Y. out west. the others stayed behind without being KILLED, MUTILATED OR BURNT OUT.

THEY are the ones who ended up with all the property the FEARFUL ones abandoned...

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Research the Rlds church: now Community of Christ.

[reaganaut]

The only sites you post are full of lies and spin. No truth there.

And you are no more persuasive over on the political threads either. IOW, PD, don’t give up your ‘day job’.

[Elsie]

Mecca is the holiest city of Islam, so holy that non-Muslims are forbidden by law from entering the city.

 

TEMPLES are the HOLIEST buildings in MORMONism.  Most MORMONs can't even get in them after they are 'dedicated'!

 

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In my view, Salt Lake City functions more like Rome than like Mecca.

 

 

Oh?

 

 

 

           

    Anahiem                          San Deigo     

 

Methinks you have picked the WRONG city: FANTASY happens to be a comparing description of what is going on in THESE two places...

  

[Colofornian]

CHRISTIANS should not be against each other. I know many Protestant people who say bad things about Catholics and vice versa.

Mormons themselves say they are NOT "one branch" off of the Protestant tree. (They don't consider themselves a "breakaway" sect -- but a "restoration" of a dead & dormant church).

IOW: Mormons call all Christians "apostates"; Muslims calls Christians "infidels"...Wanna explain the difference?

One more note: Lds leaders like "prophet" Gordon Hinckley -- and their official magazine (Ensign) -- say Mormons worship & believe in a different Christ...& other Mormon sources present a different god than the Christian God.

[SENTINEL]

Christ Is not wrong, the bible has not passed away. All churches of all denominations may stray.

Get right with God, know his word, and trust no man to be between you and God. On Judgement day, it's you and God, no other man will be present.

You will notice that we NEVER claim another Chruch to be RIGHT, only that the bible is accurate. Most of us are Non-denominational Christians.

Mormons, on the other hand have practiced such deceit and strong armed tactics over the years to cover up their doctrinal reversals that they need to be exposed for what they are. They began by claiming ALL CHRISTIAN SECTS ABOMINATIONS, THAT INCLUDES YOURS. Now they cover that up and try to STEAL the acceptance due Christianity by now claiming to be CHRISTIAN.

Look a couple posts back where Paragon Defender addressed me, HE CALLED BIBLICAL CHRISTIANTIY A CULT. THIS IS TRUE, BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, MCCONKIE "MORMON DOCTRINE" MORMONISM.

They lie, we expose, who has sinned ?

[Paragon Defender]

So you are calling Biblical Christianity a cult

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Not at all my strawman friend. I am calling the cult that obsesses over and constantly attacks the LDS Church a cult.

I know many Christians of other denominations that are not part of your cult.